Nemesis vs. Living tribunal

Started by rotiart5 pages

While we take a look at the power of the nemesis as incredible.
What do you think her chances would have been against say thanos with the heart?

I'd go with thanos myself... As he basically would be instilled with the power of the writers/editors will.

But let's assume for a second that lt did have the full backing of toaa... Wouldn't lt still win... Omniverse be damned? But as such is within his power he could always restore the whole thing in an instant.

With TOAA's approval, LT would beat Nemesis, yes. So would Thanos with the HOTU.

Originally posted by Mr Master
Nemesis, and everything else that surrounds the Omniverse
is nothing more than ink on pieces of paper to TOAA.

TOAA is the representational avatars of the writers/artists of Marvel.

TOAA creates "reality" ... "omnipotence" ... "supreme beings" or what/whoever with the stroke of a pencil.

So, TOAA > Beyonder = THOTI > PR Molecule Man = AE = Nemesis > Living Tribunal?

Originally posted by galactusischere
So, TOAA > Beyonder = THOTI > PR Molecule Man = AE = Nemesis > Living Tribunal?

PR Beyonder > TOAA.

Originally posted by AsbestosFlaygon
PR Beyonder > TOAA.

Wrong. TOAA was the one that retconned Beyonder in the first place (since TOAA represents the Marvel editorial staff)

Originally posted by Endless Mike
Wrong. TOAA was the one that retconned Beyonder in the first place (since TOAA represents the Marvel editorial staff)

fffuuu

I've had it with this Marvel cosmic shit!

Ask Mr. Master, and he'll tell you why PR Beyonder WAS > TOAA.

Originally posted by rotiart
While we take a look at the power of the nemesis as incredible.
What do you think her chances would have been against say thanos with the heart?

I'd go with thanos myself... As he basically would be instilled with the power of the writers/editors will.

But let's assume for a second that lt did have the full backing of toaa... Wouldn't lt still win... Omniverse be damned? But as such is within his power he could always restore the whole thing in an instant.


The whole heart thing was actually a more honest approach to comic book battles. Thanos had the Heart and thus won because the writer deemed he would win. If the writer (TOAA) had deemed LT to win, then LT would win. Really its not much different from any fight where the guy who wins is the guy who the writer wanted to win. Therefore Heart=Ultimate Plot Coupon guaranteeing victory.

TOAA can make the LT as powerful as he needs him to be but in this case he needed the LT to lose so that the story could adva--I mean so Thanos could remove the 'imperfection'. 😛

Originally posted by AsbestosFlaygon
fffuuu

I've had it with this Marvel cosmic shit!

Ask Mr. Master, and he'll tell you why PR Beyonder WAS > TOAA.


His opinion maybe. Beyond derived his powers from TOAA (the Editorial Staff/writers).

Well the Beyonder comes from... Beyond...
That all the power in the universe was like a drop and his power was millions of times greater or some such

Ill still go with toaa as his power would be the writers and thus without limit whereas beyonders still has a limit...

Although some will argue that the lt being representative of toaas power not being able to act shows that toaa is below beyonder

I think that toaa just like in marvel the end... Had a grandeur purpose in mind and let events play out as he wanted them too.

Infinity Being.. and very easily

Originally posted by rotiart
Well the Beyonder comes from... Beyond...
That all the power in the universe was like a drop and his power was millions of times greater or some such

Ill still go with toaa as his power would be the writers and thus without limit whereas beyonders still has a limit...

Although some will argue that the lt being representative of toaas power not being able to act shows that toaa is below beyonder

I think that toaa just like in marvel the end... Had a grandeur purpose in mind and let events play out as he wanted them too.


As I said TOAA is the one from which everything in Marvel is derived. The Writer created Beyonder and gave him his power.

I started my previous reply before yours posted...
Just as an FYI. Editing posts on iPhone equals pain
that's why I have some grammatically incorrect gems around here. :-)

and abestos seems o be riding mr m hard....
Shoot I got love for the guy too but Jesus man... Let go of his crotch!

Originally posted by rotiart
I started my previous reply before yours posted...
Just as an FYI. Editing posts on iPhone equals pain
that's why I have some grammatically incorrect gems around here. :-)

and abestos seems o be riding mr m hard....
Shoot I got love for the guy too but Jesus man... Let go of his crotch!


Him and Big C. I wonder if MM is flattered or creeped out by their attention. 😂

Flattered... At first...
He's filing the restraining order tomorrow.
:-)

Maybe Marvel will bring back Nemesis

I was thinking about something...strange I know...but wouldn't nemesis=beyonder?In both the universes they came from they were all there was and all there was was them.They are both identical beings in their universes so techiniacally wouldn't their power be equal?

Nemesis supposedly birthed all things marvel... Including perhaps the what it's.... Ultraverse... Malibu... New universe... Stuff
so in effect it was "All" of marvel

the beyonder came from beyond the marvel universe...post retcon we see a universe where beyonders came from though we later find out beyonder wasn't a true beyonder...now he's a frigging mutant eternal

anyways originally all things not part of the marvel universe back then but apparently part of the omniverse.... Were beyonder....

Which to me makes Toaa>infinity being>preretcon beyonder=nemesis> pr mm....

Now you may ask why I view nemesis as separate fro
the infinity being... Well despite nemesis being obvious a gross power... He was no longer the only being in the universe anymore...

In nemesis story arc it was the interference of the sentient infinity gems that truly cause his downfall... Gems with powers on par with the being itself... Hence nemesis was no longer the sole and greatest power... That the infinity being was.

I await mr masters rebuttal. :-)

So what is if any is the relationship between Nemesis, the Infinity Being, and TOAA?

Toaa created the marvel universe/infinity being
the infinity being is the product of toaa
nemesis is a byproduct of the infinity being. The infinity being wa separated powerset wise into 7 gems.... Nemesis is the combination of those seven gems but hose power can be held back the the sentient gems...
The infinity being would not have ha that restriction
hence infinity being is greater than nemesis
an as toaa created both... He is greater than both...

Oh... And the marvel omniverse is actually the marvel megaverse...
Universe
multiverses are collections of similar universes
megaverse is a collection of multiverses held by the same parent company
omniverse is all comic industries... Dc image marvel vertigo etc...
And possibly even our "real" world

however whenever I read comics I try to determine which term they meant rather than what is written...

Ie if infinity being created the omniverse as written by marvel
but in dc siseneg or synnar created thedc universe bit neither made
appearances in each others comics... Then you can't really compare them....

And the single greatest point of conjecture? Marvel vs dc brothers...
:-) good luck figuring that out. The megaverse itself? Guardians of megaverse? Multiverses? And when access was popping back and forth...

Unlike others on this forum I believe that the issues leading to Marcel vs dc and after should be cannon if not the issues during marvel vs dc itself..."fan vote based fights are so unfair"

Originally posted by Omega Vision
Him and Big C. I wonder if MM is flattered or creeped out by their attention. 😂
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