Originally posted by Blanket
Considering the only one close to his power would be a weakened Thor, and the next closest is... Iron Man?Either way, how does he win now, handily?
If ALL of earth heros (not the ones that is there but ALL of them) show up to fight Sentry. I'm pretty sure the click that is there isnt enough.
And how weak do you think Thor is? You are putting him at the bottom of the sh** list if you think those high metas could take ALL or even weaken him down to 80% of his power.
If getting hit by a nuke and taking punches from a bunch of 50 class villians can drop Thor as far down as you are taking him then he need to get off of the high herald list.
Thor was far from weak and used all of his energy against Sentry that did next to nothing.
Originally posted by kgkg
Ok I will answer that for you he destroys Surfer molecules or just starts pounding on him.Really is it that hard to imagine how Void could win this???
Not that Surfer can't win but you seem to suggest there is no possible way Void can beat Surfer. 😉
Originally posted by the ninjak
Sentry/Voids matter manipulation shouldn't work on Surfers biology and Cosmic Power. Though SS should after realising destroying S/Vs body won't keep him down would resort to ripping him into the Astral Plane where SS should get an upper hand. If Cyclops could defeat Copy/Paste Void in the Astral then SS should be able to do it.SS for the win via Astral fight. But still hard to tell in these early days.
Cosmic Energy would have to be the hardest stuff to manipulate I doubt Sentry would be able to
Originally posted by carver9Why would all of Earth's heroes fight Sentry? Seems... completely opposite of what's going to happen.
If ALL of earth heros (not the ones that is there but ALL of them) show up to fight Sentry. I'm pretty sure the click that is there isnt enough.And how weak do you think Thor is? You are putting him at the bottom of the sh** list if you think those high metas could take ALL or even weaken him down to 80% of his power.
If getting hit by a nuke and taking punches from a bunch of 50 class villians can drop Thor as far down as you are taking him then he need to get off of the high herald list.
Thor was far from weak and used all of his energy against Sentry that did next to nothing.
All I said was weakened.
He got cheapshotted by Sentry first, and then took attacks from the U-Foes, IP, and then a bunch of class 50's, while he was growling at them apparently the whole time.
Far from weak? Is that why they made a case of it in the issues?
Originally posted by carver9Except comics back Thor being weakened. Although if you want to stick to Sentry being weakened after that... I can only imagine what Surfer would do here.
Blanket, I can use your same argument against you. Sentry LET Thor hit him with a lightning, magical hammer strike THEN he let Thor hit him with a huge ass blast, so Sentry was weakened after that.He still owned Thor.
He didn't own Thor... all Sentry did was grab him. Not saying he couldn't, but he didn't is what actually happened.
Originally posted by the ninjakWe have only seen one Manipulation feat from Sentry other than coming back to from nothingness.
Cosmic Energy would have to be the hardest stuff to manipulate I doubt Sentry would be able to
You realize that his only manipulation feat was resisting and defeating Molecule Man? Cosmic Energy would not be hard to Manipulate considering what he did to MM who is pretty much the best character at Manipulating any type of matter and energy.
Originally posted by Blanket
Why would all of Earth's heroes fight Sentry? Seems... completely opposite of what's going to happen.All I said was weakened.
He got cheapshotted by Sentry first, and then took attacks from the U-Foes, IP, and then a bunch of class 50's, while he was growling at them apparently the whole time.
Far from weak? Is that why they made a case of it in the issues?
Except comics back Thor being weakened. Although if you want to stick to Sentry being weakened after that... I can only imagine what Surfer would do here.
He didn't own Thor... all Sentry did was grab him. Not saying he couldn't, but he didn't is what actually happened.
Void already fought all of earth heros and was stomping them so why not again? I just dont think the team that is there is powerful enough to take him out. He is going to get taken out by a plot device.
I know thats all you said was weakened but how weakened was he.
Yeah, he got cheap shotted by Sentry, then Sentry got slapped by his hammer. He then got hit by a nuke and punched by some class 50's.
Again, how weak was he because he sure as hell hit Sentry with a big a** blast?
Why didnt he own Thor when Thor was basically helpless and was sprouting blood from the mouth from a simple grab from the Sentry? I wonder what a punch would have done?
Originally posted by carver9Because that doesn't seem to be the case with Seige?
Void already fought all of earth heros and was stomping them so why not again? I just dont think the team that is there is powerful enough to take him out. He is going to get taken out by a plot device.I know thats all you said was weakened but how weakened was he.
Yeah, he got cheap shotted by Sentry, then Sentry got slapped by his hammer. He then got hit by a nuke and punched by some class 50's.
Again, how weak was he because he sure as hell hit Sentry with a big a** blast?
Why didnt he own Thor when Thor was basically helpless and was sprouting blood from the mouth from a simple grab from the Sentry? I wonder what a punch would have done?
Weakened enough that it's an issue.
He got hit by the U-Foes. Vector himself almost had Smart Hulk in a skeletal state. Ironclad iirc and Hulk put shockwaves through the multiverse, and he's always been portrayed as pretty strong. Etc. I mean, you'd think being KO'ed would be enough for you to either see it as being strong, or in your case, make it seem like Thor is weak... and THEN turn around and say that because Sentry grabbed the same Thor who was put down by 'class 50's' that he's far above Silver Surfer.
While I admit it was apparently powerful, it was still a weakened Thor. I don't know how weakened he was, but what has been stated, is that he's weakened. Apparently that's not enough for you since you want to make Sentry into the ultimate. Especially coming from the guy who actually tried to make a case about Sentry being weaker than Thor...
It only had one panel where he grabbed him, and he had a nosebleed, plus he was bloody before the scuffle began. 😬
Originally posted by carver9
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http://www.imagebam.com/image/5021c172371563/Now tell me, what is the Surfer going to do?
Thor's hammerstrikes did nothing to Rulk's face, he didn't even shift his ground.
as for this fight, Surfer sans hippie-shit = WIN.
what's Sentry gonna do to Surfer? disperse his molecules? Surfer is a matter and energy manipulator and he can do so on planet-wide scale (at the least).