Originally posted by Wild Shadow
kitty doesnt satnd in place like vision does and she will not be fighting alone unless the hammer plans on flying and hitting everyone at once at light speed...
kitty does not know Mjolnir can hit her...she is most likely to feel protected against Thor's blows and run against him...Then Thor can easily KO her with a blow.
and I doubt she's more maneuverable than the vision
Originally posted by Warlord
kitty does not know Mjolnir can hit her...she is most likely to feel protected against Thor's blows and run against him...Then Thor can easily KO her with a blow.and I doubt she's more maneuverable than the vision
Kitty's phasing is not the same as the Visions. Vision is density control, Kitty spins her molecules around stuff. That's why the Hulk's body trumps Visions phasing. Kitty's phasing trumps magical bullet.
Originally posted by ExodusCloak
Kitty's phasing is not the same as the Visions. Vision is density control, Kitty spins her molecules around stuff. That's why the Hulk's body trumps Visions phasing.
I know it's not the same but since Mjolnir's properties are magical I bet it would work on Kitty too.
Of course no argument can be made in favor of Kitty or Mjolnir since they haven't met before but my money's on magic
Originally posted by Warlord
kitty does not know Mjolnir can hit her...she is most likely to feel protected against Thor's blows and run against him...Then Thor can easily KO her with a blow.and I doubt she's more maneuverable than the vision
she has ninja training from both logan and a life time Ma knowldege transfer from ogun, you better believe she is more agile then vision allowing her to dodge and maneuver minus the flight aspect of vision..
and again kitty isnt the only one fighting here... thor will have to pick and choice who is his most dangerous opponent in a small amount of time and act accordingly.
Originally posted by Wild Shadow
she has ninja training from both logan and a life time Ma knowldege transfer from ogun, you better believe she is more agile then vision allowing her to dodge and maneuver minus the flight aspect of vision..and again kitty isnt th eonly one fighting here... thor will have to pick and choice who is his most dangerous opponent in a small amount of time and act accordingly.
we do not know how the fight goes...we can only imagine scenarios and in a scenario where Thor calls down lightning against everyone Kitty remains with a few others to fight Thor so his options on who he should target are are not that many to confuse him.
Originally posted by Warlord
I know it's not the same but since Mjolnir's properties are magical I bet it would work on Kitty too.
Of course no argument can be made in favor of Kitty or Mjolnir since they haven't met before but my money's on magic
She phased a magical bullet that trumped Dr. Stranges magic though.
Originally posted by Warlord
I already said that she wouldn't have the time to raise the shield unless her reflexes are faster than lightning
Are Thors thought processing/reflexes consistently faster then lightning?
Originally posted by Wild Shadow
they are fast enough to read his mind and his telegraphed movements as he prepares to do it.. lightning might be fast but the fore thought to it and planning the attack and unleashing it isnt...
Thor has shown resistance to TP before and I though Psyloke didn't have TP anymore
Its funny how some people just think that Psylocke will easily manip Thors mind.
Thor;
Thor's immortal mind is equally durable and while not immune, he is highly resistant to mental tampering. Here, he resists the Mind Thrust attack of the Rigellians in Thor Annual #4:
Direct mental blasts from Moondragon's Mind Gem are equally useless during the Blood and Thunder arc in Thor #469:
He resists the Stranger's mind-blast where Moondragon (herself a considerable telepath) cannot, from Avengers #138
During Infinity War, Thor frees himself from Moondragon's and the Goddess' mental manipulations of Thor's mind, from Infinity Watch #21
Here, Thor casts out Loki's spiritual influence from his mind in Thor Annual #19
Thor is also the first Avenger to realize Morgana's warping of the world using her magic, the Scarlet Witch's power and the Twilight Sword and then resist her domination over his mind, in Avengers vol. 3 #2
Unless Psylocke is greater than some of the people mentioned above, she aint doing shit to Thors mind.
Originally posted by Warlord
ok then...didn't know that...although it's a different kind of magic I give u this one
I don't remember who said it, it may have been Danger but the magic smelled very similar to Illyana's Rasputin. Except not sure what the point of saying that was since Ilyana has had nothing to do with that story.
yes thor is resistant not immune their in lies the problem moondragon did manipulate his mind as so did many others you just mention..
the blood and thunder where they failed to stop him was b/c he has the possession of the power gem and he as mad and spiritually unstable which is why moondragon could not manipulate stop him.. also the power gem also adds protection from mind assault added by warlock prior to him giving the gems to the infinity watch a precaution to keep members honest.. aside from that one has to willingly allow themselves open to moondragon in order for her to enter the mind of the person..
aside from that betsy isnt only doing surface lvl scans not full invasion type stuff which i would say eventually she would be able to accomplish alone but here she also has emma frost to help her..
so although thor is resistant and has overwritten and freed himself in the past he is still clearly not immune and is just as susceptible to mind attacks let alone minor surface scans..
Originally posted by Warlordshe has both... i also added at her peak in the OP.. but she now in comics has both TP/TK and when i said peak i also wanted her crimson dawn powers as well
Thor has shown resistance to TP before and I though Psyloke didn't have TP anymore
Originally posted by The Nuul
Its funny how some people just think that Psylocke will easily manip Thors mind.Thor;
Thor's immortal mind is equally durable and while not immune, he is highly resistant to mental tampering. Here, he resists the Mind Thrust attack of the Rigellians in Thor Annual #4:
Direct mental blasts from Moondragon's Mind Gem are equally useless during the Blood and Thunder arc in Thor #469:
He resists the Stranger's mind-blast where Moondragon (herself a considerable telepath) cannot, from Avengers #138
During Infinity War, Thor frees himself from Moondragon's and the Goddess' mental manipulations of Thor's mind, from Infinity Watch #21
Here, Thor casts out Loki's spiritual influence from his mind in Thor Annual #19
Thor is also the first Avenger to realize Morgana's warping of the world using her magic, the Scarlet Witch's power and the Twilight Sword and then resist her domination over his mind, in Avengers vol. 3 #2
Unless Psylocke is greater than some of the people mentioned above, she aint doing shit to Thors mind.
I don't think anyone was arguing about attacking him one-shotting him mentally since his TP resistance is inconsistent and that makes it difficult to use in a debate (That Exemplar of the Mind, Onslaught, Dr. Spectrum and Moondragon have all got him.)
I thought he was talking about the time it takes to erect a TK shield cause Betsy is a rudimentary telepath anyway. (Never mind didn't see Psylocke is at her peak.)