Thor vs The X-men

Started by ExodusCloak14 pages
Originally posted by Naija boy
I highly doubt a tk shield from psylocke would be able to provide any sort of useful protection from thors more powerful lightning bolt.
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Depends, Claremont really had a hard on for her so when he wrote her her telekinesis was apparently more powerful then Rachel Greys who is supposed to have unlimited psionic energies.

clearly you havent seen what Betsy has blocked with her TK Shield umbrella aside from that she only has to hold it off long enough for her team to attack thor and stop his attack..

Betsy's TK is superior to rachel... 😛

Rachel and Betsy both erected a force field protecting an entire city and even redirecting a city lvl attack from an alien warship in orbit right back to its source.

Originally posted by Naija boy
I highly doubt a tk shield from psylocke would be able to provide any sort of useful protection from thors more powerful lightning bolt.
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http://img223.imageshack.us/img223/3104/tkprotectaz2.jpg
http://img218.imageshack.us/img218/7664/tkprotect2ri9.jpg
http://img227.imageshack.us/img227/8079/psyrachyf7.jpg
http://img412.imageshack.us/img412/2233/psyrach2wg9.jpg

Nice scans Shadow!

Originally posted by ExodusCloak
Depends, Claremont really had a hard on for her so when he wrote her her telekinesis was apparently more powerful then Rachel Greys who is supposed to have unlimited psionic energies.

Interestin, but whats the highest level attack she has actually effectively blocked with her tk shield?

clearly you havent seen what Betsy has blocked with her TK Shield umbrella aside from that she only has to hold it off long enough for her team to attack thor and stop his attack.Rachel and Betsy both erected a force field protecting an entire city and even redirecting a city lvl attack from an alien warship in orbit right back to its source.

Clearly u havent seen what thor is capable with his more powerful lightning attacks if u actually think that a shared feat of them both defending against som city level attack from an alien warship
is enough justification to claim that she would be able to defend against thors more powerful lightning attacks. Any one member of her team that leaves the TK shield would get oneshotted by alightning attack from a serious thor. Moreover considering that thor can easily reign down multiple of these types pf lightning bolts, the safest place for any of them would be wiithin her tk shield. Even then the tk shield is not safe as uve not shown anything from it proving that it can stand up to serious atacks from thor.

aren't there both rachel and psyloke in those scans?

Originally posted by the ninjak
http://img223.imageshack.us/img223/3104/tkprotectaz2.jpg
http://img218.imageshack.us/img218/7664/tkprotect2ri9.jpg
http://img227.imageshack.us/img227/8079/psyrachyf7.jpg
http://img412.imageshack.us/img412/2233/psyrach2wg9.jpg

Nice scans Shadow!

That is for one a shared feat, and secondly im pretty sure that thors power output exceeds that of some sentinels.

Originally posted by Naija boy
Interestin, but whats the highest level attack she has actually effectively blocked with her tk shield?

Clearly u havent seen what thor is capable with his more powerful lightning attacks if u actually think that a shared feat of them both defending against som city level attack from an alien warship
is enough justification to claim that she would be able to defend against thors more powerful lightning attacks. Any one member of her team that leaves the TK shield would get oneshotted by alightning attack from a serious thor. Moreover considering that thor can easily reign down multiple of these types pf lightning bolts, the safest place for any of them would be wiithin her tk shield. Even then the tk shield is not safe as uve not shown anything from it proving that it can stand up to serious atacks from thor.

She doesn't have to do it for too long before Kurt TPs Kitty on him puts him in phase mode. Or TPing Logan on him for some slashing.
Plus Emma attacking his mind for disorientation.

Originally posted by Naija boy
Interestin, but whats the highest level attack she has actually effectively blocked with her tk shield?

Not really sure, too lazy to look it up but some of her higher stuff has been posted in this thread. Claremont had her gain Jeans Telepathy and then something happened during the 6 month break and Jean lost her TK to Psylocke. So Psylocke has Jean Greys TK. That's probably the reason why it's more powerful then Rachels.

Keep in mind that Thor is in character in this fight and he's not going to try and kill the X-Men especially when they approached him first peacefully. So I don't think he'll be hitting anyone with his strongest attacks. If could just magically BFR them if he wanted to.

Originally posted by ExodusCloak
Not really sure, too lazy to look it up but some of her higher stuff has been posted in this thread. Claremont had her gain Jeans Telepathy and then something happened during the 6 month break and Jean lost her TK to Psylocke. So Psylocke has Jean Greys TK. That's probably the reason why it's more powerful then Rachels.

Keep in mind that Thor is in character in this fight and he's not going to try and kill the X-Men especially when they approached him first peacefully. So I don't think he'll be hitting anyone with his strongest attacks. If could just magically BFR them if he wanted to.

Yes i know thor is supposed to be in character, but people are suggesting things like nightcrawler teleporting in and putting a brick in thors head (which is absurd regardless) or phasing his entire body into the ground which would necessarily mean death. Hence the reason i suggested that thor would simply incinerate them before they had the chance to kill him.

Originally posted by Naija boy
Yes i know thor is supposed to be in character, but people are suggesting things like nightcrawler teleporting in and putting a brick in thors head (which is absurd regardless) or phasing his entire body into the ground which would necessarily mean death. Hence the reason i suggested that thor would simply incinerate them before they had the chance to kill him.

Oh right, well I was pretty much against that as well. 😛

no one is taking the night crawler comment seriously b/c it is out of character for him..

i was also going to say that you have to have thor in character and the set up made it somewhat clear what some of the x-men are willing to do.. but, you are already aware and pointed out why you said what you said..

kitty phasing thor isnt far fetched since she did it to hulk and iirc she even did it thor as well ambient more painfully in a x-men vs avenger fight..

she actually phased his atoms to the ground causing him excruciating pain.. that he had to use mjonlir magic to get out of it. her doing such a feat in this fight is more likely sense she has a meaner demeanor then some of her fellow x-men also fortified by wolverine and ogun training.. she is a ninja and has the attitude to do it although she might feel guilty later if thor is permanently harmed..

Originally posted by Wild Shadow
no one is taking the night crawler comment seriously b/c it is out of character for him..

i was also going to say that you have to have thor in character and the set up made it somewhat clear what some of the x-men are willing to do.. but, you are already aware and pointed out why you said what you said..

kitty phasing thor isnt far fetched since she did it to hulk and iirc she even did it thor as well ambient more painfully in a x-men vs avenger fight..

she actually phased his atoms to the ground causing him excruciating pain.. that he had to use mjonlir magic to get out of it. her doing such a feat in this fight is more likely sense she has a meaner demeanor then some of her fellow x-men also fortified by wolverine and ogun training.. she is a ninja and has the attitude to do it although she might feel guilty later if thor is permanently harmed..

If CIS is taken to be on and they arent trying to kill each other, then while kitty might try to phase thor into the ground, she wouldnt try to kill him by phasing his entire body. she'd probly do something similar to what she did to him previously...meaning he would likely be able to use mjolnir to escape once again.

Moreover, as for the rest of the team, wile thor wont kill them he can still ko them without too much effort. He can make the landscape extremely bad and limit their manovrabilty and visibility extremely. Heck with some of the winds thor can summon, any of the Xmen save kitty that leaves psylockes TK shield would get blown into the next state. Then with most of them concentrated in that one area, a fairly powerful lightning bolt/energy attack would probly ko them. Then kitty would be the only one left and thor has been shown to hit intangible beings before. And tho Kitty may not have the same sort of phasing as vision its still a 50/50 as to whether thor could hit her since by that same token, she hasnt faced anyone with mjolnirs unique abilities either.

At the very worst if thor cant hit her then bfr via dimensional vortex is probly the safest thing for him to do.

Originally posted by Naija boy
If CIS is taken to be on and they arent trying to kill each other, then while kitty might try to phase thor into the ground, she wouldnt try to kill him by phasing his entire body. she'd probly do something similar to what she did to him previously...meaning he would likely be able to use mjolnir to escape once again.

Moreover, as for the rest of the team, wile thor wont kill them he can still ko them without too much effort. He can make the landscape extremely bad and limit their manovrabilty and visibility extremely. Heck with some of the winds thor can summon, any of the Xmen save kitty that leaves psylockes TK shield would get blown into the next state. Then with most of them concentrated in that one area, a fairly powerful lightning bolt/energy attack would probly ko them. Then kitty would be the only one left and thor has been shown to hit intangible beings before. And tho Kitty may not have the same sort of phasing as vision its still a 50/50 as to whether thor could hit her since by that same token, she hasnt faced anyone with mjolnirs unique abilities either.

At the very worst if thor cant hit her then bfr via dimensional vortex is probly the safest thing for him to do.

How would you interpret this?

Do the vertical lines indicate that the hammer when right through her or did she miss it all together?

IMO she phased into the ground which is crap because he throws the hammer a lot faster than she can dodge it.

Originally posted by ExodusCloak
How would you interpret this?

Do the vertical lines indicate that the hammer when right through her or did she miss it all together?

I think she phased into the ground to dodge it. The vertical lines seem to indicate the downward motion involved while she was phasing into the ground.

i still see kitty getting the drop on thor more consistently then thor hitting her every time.. b/c she can face into the ground and come from beneath grabbing him and limiting if not out right stopping all his attacks and leaving him exploited to some one like wolverine or X23 for the kill.

^What happens when thor simply flies into the air?

Betsy puts a TK hold on him...🙄

Thor really does stomp.

Originally posted by Naija boy
I think she phased into the ground to dodge it. The vertical lines seem to indicate the downward motion involved while she was phasing into the ground.

Would she have been able to fall fast enough to miss Thors hammer though?

Like I know she's quick to phase and all...but that doesn't seem to add up.

Originally posted by Naija boy
^What happens when thor simply flies into the air?

i prepared for this eventuality.. 😉

he wont. 😛

im kidding he rarely does that in character he is a ground fighter and his opponents are also grounders no real reason for him to fly and attack from a distance at least not realize this until it is too late,,

but i give thor 2 wins due to flight ability alone.

besides psylocke can animate the ground to grab him as he prepares to take off or simply reach for him, kitty can then just touch the remaining ground and fuse him to it causing him pain maybe death.