Gamora vs. Wolverine

Originally posted by OneDumbG0
It proves that they weren't playing around. It's quite blatant. "Playing possum" in a fight =/= being playful. The butchering of the English language on these forums is atrocious.

It proves that Gamora wasn't playing around... Thanos... not so much... He's not the one who dislocated Drax's jaw...

Originally posted by OneDumbG0
All this so you could pretend like you could bring Thanos.

Originally posted by OneDumbG0
and Gamora down to Wolverine's level?

Gamora has to have feats that place her outside the scope of Wolverine's ability to beat to need to "bring her down"... you have yet to produce them... because they have yet to exist...

Originally posted by OneDumbG0
Hilarious. Well let's see, you just conceded that Ronan did not engage Gamora almost entirely in melee, but did in fact unleash the full extent of the Universal Weapon upon her while using a menagerie of it's abilities. Keep pretending it's not impressive.

Originally posted by OneDumbG0
I wasn't saying that. No need to project others' statements onto me.

Originally posted by OneDumbG0
What I was doing was just busting your attempt to suggest she can't slap around Drax

Never suggested that so once again.. irrelivent.

Originally posted by OneDumbG0
because when she did in Soul World, that wasn't representative of what would happen in a corporeal world. Except she has slapped/punched/kicked him around in the corporeal world... so you're wrong... pretty much...

So you're... wrong... pretty much...

Originally posted by OneDumbG0
Yes, Wolverine would stab-stomp the sh1t out of classic Drax who has ripped out star-cores with his bare hands. Another comedic attempt to bring characters down to Wolverine's level.

Originally posted by OneDumbG0
It isn't an assumption. Gamora was taking it to Maxam effortlessly. Read the second fight again, y'know... the one where she is aware of her opponent's capabilities. Either you're acting like you can elevate Wolverine to this level or your content to drag everyone else down to Wolverine's level. In either case, it's a joke.

The fight was a long way from finished thus it is an assumption... We don't need you to tell us it is since it's one by definition... and you still haven't gotten the point.. what she did there... typical street level stuff.

No.. I'm acting like both characters have feats to be drawn from... not just Gamora...

And including both characters representations you HAVE to concede to the fact that Wolverine takes people in heavier weight classes than himself all the time. The only time he and Gamora fought he was recovering and she wasn't and he still held her to a short stalemate before dropping her due to her lack of focus on the fight.. she doesn't have to be "brought down" to Wolverine's level since going by ON PANEL that you love so much she already IS at his level. 😐

Originally posted by tkitna
Who said anything about her winning just because she one shotted the Thing? Your falling behind again.

i feel like we might have to make some drax vs gamora fight just to gauge how good her fighting skills and strength really are.. gamora changes the tv channel on drax while he was watching alf... fight!!!

gamora vs thanos, thanos feels betrayed after she runs off the with rider and decides to end her life personally on a far off planet... aint no daughter of mine hooking up with a space cop!!!

gamora fights maxam after maxam's memories of who he is, is revealed... if i have to kill you to get to warlock i will!!

Gamora vs Ronin, she is found guilty of universal murder by the kree empire and Ronin is dispatched to end her life with no remorse..

seriously ppl how do you really see these fights going?

^ She'd manage FAAAAARRR better than Wolverine would.

Originally posted by jinzin
It proves that Gamora wasn't playing around... Thanos... not so much... He's not the one who dislocated Drax's jaw...

Never an argument anyone is making here so that's a pretty irrelivent strawman.

Gamora has to have feats that place her outside the scope of Wolverine's ability to beat to need to "bring her down"... you have yet to produce them... because they have yet to exist...

"Thanos was playing around, such that Gamora could match him... which any street-leveler could do... like Wolverine." Straw-man, this is not.

Pretending her feats don't place her in a level above Wolverine doesn't sanction you acting like we haven't consistently pointed them out to you.

Originally posted by jinzin
Yeah a bit of a hyperbolic statement perhaps but to say that he was using the full extent of his power upon her in that fight is another.. K pot?

Then don't change the subject to another strawman when it suites you. Never suggested that so once again.. irrelivent. As Shadow pointed out... WHEN HE WASN'T EXPECTING IT OR AWARE HE'S IN A FIGHT... So you're... wrong... pretty much...

Oh, so because Drax didn't expect her attacks or was distracted, it doesn't count for crap? And Wolverine managing to stab Gamora when she didn't expect it and was distracted? How about that? The one holy grail of evidence that Wolverine-supporters constantly rally around throughout this thread? You have any idea how easy it was to string you along into arguing against your own evidence? Delicious.

^ continued:

Originally posted by jinzin
Uh... Never said that.. but you claiming what kind of Damage she can inflict on Drax while ignoring that Wolverine can also inflict damage and damage more potent at that is pretty ridiculous...

The fight was a long way from finished thus it is an assumption... We don't need you to tell us it is since it's one by definition... and you still haven't gotten the point.. what she did there... typical street level stuff. No.. I'm acting like both characters have feats to be drawn from... not just Gamora...

And including both characters representations you HAVE to concede to the fact that Wolverine takes people in heavier weight classes than himself all the time. The only time he and Gamora fought he was recovering and she wasn't and he still held her to a short stalemate before dropping her due to her lack of focus on the fight.. she doesn't have to be "brought down" to Wolverine's level since going by ON PANEL that you love so much she already IS at his level.

It was pretty obvious who was going to win. Maxam even notes how fortunate he was that he moved his head at the last second with her cleaving blow. This is the same Maxam who has gone toe-to-toe with PG Drax. Most decidedly not street-level fair. Gamora didn't even use Godslayer, nor was she in her current upgraded state. Details, jinzin, details.

This sad joke has gone on long enough. Stop bringing Gamora down to Wolverine's level.

Originally posted by OneDumbG0

This sad joke has gone on long enough. Stop bringing Gamora down to Wolverine's level.

Did you just edit so you could double post the same thing you just said in the post you edited out?

Very renegade of you.

wolverine is out of gamora league he has more feats and on panel display of skills..

Originally posted by Wild Shadow
wolverine is out of gamora league he has more feats and on panel display of skills..

Originally posted by Starscream M
wolverine hangs with savage hulk. stop acting like he's completely out of gamora's league.

Originally posted by srankmissingnin
No. Wolverine can't beat the Hulk. He's done it, but that's PIS. Hulk has healing factor that will repair any damage does to him nearly instantly, nothing Wolverine can do other than fight him until his own healing factor is overloaded. He can give him a fight, but wouldn't ever win.

Originally posted by Blanket
Did you just edit so you could double post the same thing you just said in the post you edited out?

Very renegade of you.

Raging against the machine as we speak. uhuh

Wolverine beating the Hulk is PIS, not him fighting the Hulk.

Wolverine has better feats than Gamora, across the board in all areas - save for strength - so he wins. 'Nuff Said? Should be but I doubt it...

Originally posted by OneDumbG0

I said wolverine can hang with the hulk...which means he ain't outta gamora's league, like you're insinuating.

now, gamora's hf is nowhere near hulks, so wolverine can hurt her much worse than he can the hulk.

was that hard to understand?

Originally posted by srankmissingnin
same odds of beating Wolverine as Wolverine does of beating the Hulk. None. Zero. Maybe they can hang with him in a fight briefly, but they will never have any actual chance of winning.

Originally posted by OneDumbG0

wolverine can't put down hulk...he could potentially kill gamora

why are you being so dense?

Originally posted by OneDumbG0
^ She'd manage FAAAAARRR better than Wolverine would. Drax asks if "they" are just messing around. Not just Gamora. Adam uses a question to answer that. You're prevaricating around the blatantly simple and plain presentation of the comic. Badly.

"Thanos was playing around, such that Gamora could match him... which any street-leveler could do... like Wolverine." Straw-man, this is not.

Pretending her feats don't place her in a level above Wolverine doesn't sanction you acting like we haven't consistently pointed them out to you. Except Ronan unleashing the full might of his Universal Weapon upon Gamora is exactly what's stated on-panel. Read the fight again.

Oh, so because Drax didn't expect her attacks or was distracted, it doesn't count for crap? And Wolverine managing to stab Gamora when she didn't expect it and was distracted? How about that? The one holy grail of evidence that Wolverine-supporters constantly rally around throughout this thread? You have any idea how easy it was to string you along into arguing against your own evidence? Delicious.

And yeah it is a strawman... Thanos views her as a student and a daughter... you threw out the position that she faired better than Wolverine could.. but they're not set under the same circumstances so it's quite neglegible.. Doesn't matter anyways as Wolverine as just as impressive a feat against the likes of Thor who flat out states he was using his fiercest and finest blows.
Either way it's not the most concrete feat to use to justify calling Gamora out of Wolverine's league.

If you can provide evidence of what Srank asked you for pages ago then perhaps you can continue this ranting... I've yet to see it.

Ronin: Context the weapon drew on all it's power due to him trying to tamper with Godslayer.. not because of Gamora alone.

And another Strawman on the Drax thing? Good Lord.. Wolverine's toppled Savage Hulk with a jump kick to the back of his head on several occassions.. how much do you think that counts for in a real fight (.. crap one of them was even IN a real fight come to think of it)? Does that ALSO mean Wolverine's striking ability is TE UBERIST1!?

And uhhh... I already stated that Gamora got distracted at the end of her Wolverine encounter... 😕

Nice to see you haven't given up on your delusions 😉.
Anywho... the whole point is that for the short period that they did fight. not distracted, she didn't exactly secure an advantage... so she can't be as far outside of Wolverine's league as you're so apt to suggest...

i figure if wolverine can hang with the likes of domina, elektra and various ppl with high lvl skills with powers with bladed wpns, gamora is no different..

Originally posted by Wild Shadow
i figure if wolverine can hang with the likes of domina, elektra and various ppl with high lvl skills with powers with bladed wpns, gamora is no different..

Originally posted by Blanket
lol

b/c if iirc correctly b4 thanos retcon kazar was also able to evade and counter thanos as well as gamora and he is only human...

dont laugh b/c you think gamora has some kind of speed edge and skill by her title and hyperbole..

last i check champion of the universe title is higher then hers but we have all seen how well that does him.

The case being made for Gamora winning this fight is built entire around four examples, and in each of the four cases the examples are being viewed without any consideration to the context in which the occurred. Of the four feats - even ignoring the context the way you guys are presenting them - only one of them is potentially more impressive than Wolverine's best feats... but hey, we are ignoring context here and talking out of our asses in support of Gamora, why not do the same for Wolverine? Lets completely ignore the context behind examples! Hurray! Gamora, briefly stalemated Thanos? Well Wolverine has done the same with Dark Pheonix. ZOMG!!!!!!!!!!

There are no feats that show Gamora being faster than Wolverine.

There are no feats that show Gamora being more skilled than Wolverine.

There are no feats that show Gamora can heal fast enough to take the damage Wolverine dishes out and still keep fighting.

There are no feats that show that Gamora has the ability to win this fight.