Originally posted by Wild ShadowShe's way stronger than all of them. 😐
damn right. tell me what makes gamora different what are her feats again?b/c if iirc correctly b4 thanos retcon kazar was also able to evade and counter thanos as well as gamora and he is only human...
dont laugh b/c you think gamora has some kind of speed edge and skill by her title and hyperbole..
last i check champion of the universe title is higher then hers but we have all seen how well that does him.
A low level Thanos clone that was weakened...
Considering she traveled like a mile in a couple leaps/a second? I'd think she was faster, but meh. Skill, well I'd bring something up, but it'd already have been 'ignored' in this thread previously.
No he isn't, and Gamora has actually displayed skill.
Originally posted by srankmissingnin
The case being made for Gamora winning this fight is built entire around four examples, and in each of the four cases the examples are being viewed without any consideration to the context in which the occurred. Of the four feats - even ignoring the context the way you guys are presenting them - only one of them is potentially more impressive than Wolverine's best feats... but hey, we are ignoring context here and talking out of our asses in support of Gamora, why not do the same for Wolverine? Lets completely ignore the context behind examples! Hurray! Gamora, briefly stalemated Thanos? Well Wolverine has done the same with Dark Pheonix. ZOMG!!!!!!!!!!There are no feats that show Gamora being faster than Wolverine.
There are no feats that show Gamora being more skilled than Wolverine.
There are no feats that show Gamora can heal fast enough to take the damage Wolverine dishes out and still keep fighting.
There are no feats that show that Gamora has the ability to win this fight.
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Originally posted by jinzinFrankly, I was under the impression Gamora punched his nose since it bleeds and Thanos+Gamora punch Drax's jaw. But in either case... Drax asks if "they" are just messing around. Adam Warlock uses a question to answer his query. And you know exactly what to say to that, "Nuh uh!!!1"
You're the one who gets hung up on nit picking... Gamora hit drax in the Jaw.. not Thanos... Warlocks statment is not an impartial narrative... and.. if you TRULY believe Thanos wasn't taking it easy in that fight............ I don't even know what to say to that honestly.And yeah it is a strawman... Thanos views her as a student and a daughter... you threw out the position that she faired better than Wolverine could.. but they're not set under the same circumstances so it's quite neglegible.. Doesn't matter anyways as Wolverine as just as impressive a feat against the likes of Thor who flat out states he was using his fiercest and finest blows. Either way it's not the most concrete feat to use to justify calling Gamora out of Wolverine's league. If you can provide evidence of what Srank asked you for pages ago then perhaps you can continue this ranting... I've yet to see it.
No. It's the same ludicrous meandering that somehow leads you to suggest that Thanos, Drax and Maxam should be lowered to Wolverine's level whenever Gamora deals with them. Accusing us of playing unfairly with logic when confronting such notions is a parody of argumentation.
Originally posted by jinzinNo. Ronan states he is using the upper limits of the Universal Weapon well before Gamora ever summons the Godslayer to her hand. I told you to reread the fight. Don't argue with me about it until you do.
Ronin: Context the weapon drew on all it's power due to him trying to tamper with Godslayer.. not because of Gamora alone.And another Strawman on the Drax thing? Good Lord.. Wolverine's toppled Savage Hulk with a jump kick to the back of his head on several occassions.. how much do you think that counts for in a real fight (.. crap one of them was even IN a real fight come to think of it)? Does that ALSO mean Wolverine's striking ability is TE UBERIST1!?
And uhhh... I already stated that Gamora got distracted at the end of her Wolverine encounter... Nice to see you haven't given up on your delusions. Anywho... the whole point is that for the short period that they did fight. not distracted, she didn't exactly secure an advantage... so she can't be as far outside of Wolverine's league as you're so apt to suggest...
No straw-man. Just enjoying how you effectively dismissed the "best piece of evidence" that Wolverine-proponents have been waving at people's faces with your argument... much to their chagrin I'm sure.
Lulz. Right after completely busting the Gamora-stabbing legitimacy, you turn right around and used it. And again, whilst ignoring her recent upgrade. Comedy.
Originally posted by Blanket
She's way stronger than all of them. 😐
One shotted Thing, One shotted She-Hulk, surviving in a sun seems to be something they couldn't do, etc.A low level Thanos clone that was weakened...
Considering she traveled like a mile in a couple leaps/a second? I'd think she was faster, but meh. Skill, well I'd bring something up, but it'd already have been 'ignored' in this thread previously.
No he isn't, and Gamora has actually displayed skill.
wolverine has also one shotted thing with his claws... he hurt she hulk and the hulk with a head bunt as well and has even slammed kicked hulk into the ground as well....
wolverine also survived being cooked by the sun as well and was able to fully generate faster then gamora
it didnt say she traveled miles maybe a few hundred yards at the most..
wolverine actually regularly displays more skills then gamora how many feats does she actually have? lets look at her respect thread
b/c clearly phela vell will be protecting and raising a shield for gamora to run back to so she doesnt get incinerated...
b/c neither of their sun feat can be comparable, right?
i would think surviving in space closer to the sun is more impressive then surviving on a planet being light yrs away from the sun and being burned by a solar flare approaching the planet.
Originally posted by Wild ShadowToo bad Gamora actually knocked him out without stabbing him.
wolverine has also one shotted thing with his claws... he hurt she hulk and the hulk with a head bunt as well and has even slammed kicked hulk into the ground as well....wolverine also survived being cooked by the sun as well and was able to fully generate faster then gamora
it didnt say she traveled miles maybe a few hundred yards at the most..
wolverine actually regularly displays more skills then gamora how many feats does she actually have? lets look at her respect thread
When? BTW, you missed the point. It's what makes her different than the people Wolverine fought that you brought up.
I never said 'miles', I said 'like a mile'. Either way, it was very far.
Ya, because she hardly appears. 😐
But when she does, she shows skills everytime she fights... quite a contrast against Wolverine sometimes showing skills in his 4 comics a month.
Originally posted by jinzin
Sigh... making a mockery of your argument to make my point more effective... it's okay though you can't even keep up with Wolverine's damage soak no need to think you would do well with the debate.
Sigh is right. I really didnt want to hold your hand and walk you through this but I can tell your a bit slow. Here was the question that somebody else posted-
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Originally posted by Survivor19
This thread is epic, all right, but:
can someone provide a list of bricks Gamora faced and how she was doing
then how logan did against them
Peace all
I listed some bricks that Gamora fought. That is all. I didnt compare how she fared to Wolverine period. It was just answering that posters question about Gamora.
Geesh. I can tell your starting to get defensive about all this because your starting to realize that only you and the other couple of stooges are siding for Wolverine, but you need to make sure you have the whole story before you post. You'll feel better.
Originally posted by OneDumbG0
Frankly, I was under the impression Gamora punched his nose since it bleeds and Thanos+Gamora punch Drax's jaw. But in either case... Drax asks if "they" are just messing around. Adam Warlock uses a question to answer his query. And you know exactly what to say to that, "Nuh uh!!!1"
Gamera's the only one to hit him in the face iirc. when they punch him combined and send him back it's in the torso...
If you want to use 3rd party citations without any consideration to the context on panel then I'll just state that Strength made note that Lazaer is the strongest, most skilled opponent Wolverine's EVER faced.. and Wolverine had a 100% winning record against the guy.... Warlock's 3rd party statement for the win then?
Originally posted by OneDumbG0
No. It's the same ludicrous meandering that somehow leads you to suggest that Thanos, Drax and Maxam should be lowered to Wolverine's level whenever Gamora deals with them.
Though I wouldn't be surprised if Logan took out Maxam to be honest.
Anyways... nice strawman.... a-again.
Originally posted by OneDumbG0Oh you mean when he was bringing down a random firestorm and in no way focusing the complete concentration of his attack on Gamora? Yeah... that's nice.. 🙄
Accusing us of playing unfairly with logic when confronting such notions is a parody of argumentation. No. Ronan states he is using the upper limits of the Universal Weapon well before Gamora ever summons the Godslayer to her hand. I told you to reread the fight. Don't argue with me about it until you do.
Originally posted by OneDumbG0
No straw-man. Just enjoying how you effectively dismissed the "best piece of evidence" that Wolverine-proponents have been waving at people's faces with your argument... much to their chagrin I'm sure.Lulz. Right after completely busting the Gamora-stabbing legitimacy, you turn right around and used it. And again, whilst ignoring her recent upgrade. Comedy.
The only comedy I see here is you using the "Upgrade card" when you tried to make a mockery of it earlier.. pretty much shows what kind of hypocrite you are....
Did Gamora's upgrades include a significant increase in skill or speed? No? Then they're pretty much irrelivent to the point being made...
Now I can admit that the Gamora Wolverine fight didn't draw to a close but you have to admit that she didn't secure an advantage... cause.. yknow..... that's what happened...
anyways..... Like Srank said.... She really lacks the sheer quantifiable feats to put her on Wolverine's level in several areas that she needs to be as good or better to win this fight.
Originally posted by tkitna
Sigh is right. I really didnt want to hold your hand and walk you through this but I can tell your a bit slow. Here was the question that somebody else posted-I listed some bricks that Gamora fought. That is all. I didnt compare how she fared to Wolverine period. It was just answering that posters question about Gamora.
Geesh. I can tell your starting to get defensive about all this because your starting to realize that only you and the other couple of stooges are siding for Wolverine, but you need to make sure you have the whole story before you post. You'll feel better.
Nice tangent there... I guess whatever helps you to avoid posting the feats you need to secure your position...
Originally posted by jinzin
If you want to use 3rd party citations without any consideration to the context on panel then I'll just state that Strength made note that Lazaer is the strongest, most skilled opponent Wolverine's EVER faced.. and Wolverine had a 100% winning record against the guy.... Warlock's 3rd party statement for the win then?
According to Gladiator no force (not man but force) in the Cosmos has ever taken down as many Imperial Guard Elite as Wolverine. Wolverine: Most Dangerous Man in the Cosmos? 😱
I'm new to the argument here. So, from what I'm seeing. The debate is current Gamora vs current Wolverine. And that the current wolverine proponents are using the fight between Gamora and Wolverine where Gamora was caught by surprise as a basis of Wolverine winning the fight? The Gamora before her upgrades wherein she received Super Strength, Speed, Durability as well as a weapon DESIGNED to one-shot immortal beings (Godslayer)?