Leo's Tourney!!!

Started by Digi30 pages

K, so I've been able to confirm that he became a microscopic amoeba in a television episode. Not a comic. That doesn't mean he hasn't, or can't, just that I didn't find it. I assume we're not considering the cartoon canon, but it certainly lends some credence to my thoughts on BB.

Also a wiki mention of him becoming a swarm of fireflies and a group of barnacles. So multiples? Obviously wiki's can be edited, but there's also no particular reason to think the claim is false. I don't know what counts as proof for leo, though, since this is the only evidence I can offer.

Originally posted by Digi
christ, well ok. I'm not just trying to be difficult, because I do have a vague recollection of some microbe feat where he divides into cells or something. Obviously it could be confused with any number of the thousands of scans I've perused on KMC through the years. I guess I'll go on a brief hunt.

You're thinking of Animal Man.

Originally posted by Blair Wind
You're thinking of Animal Man.

Probably. There's still the info I found above. And to be clear, it's not you I distrust. It's just that if those kinds of feats exist, BB should be banned, even if you weren't aware of it when you made the pick. I'm trying to be thorough is all.

Like Vixen, BB's versatile. Unlike Vixen, none of his options would put him (IMO) above Wolverine or Spider-Man.

Wolverine or Spider-Man would be able to physically take it to anything he transforms into (barring scans of microscopic transformations), and I'm having trouble imagining any of his forms actually laying a hand on either of them.

I realize that just because those two can hang doesn't automatically indicate low meta, but it's suggestive. I think the trend that they set probably carries on throughout the tiers. Maybe my view is skewed though- I don't know the character that well.

Originally posted by Original Smurph
Like Vixen, BB's versatile. Unlike Vixen, none of his options would put him (IMO) above Wolverine or Spider-Man.

Wolverine or Spider-Man would be able to physically take it to anything he transforms into (barring scans of microscopic transformations), and I'm having trouble imagining any of his forms actually laying a hand on either of them.

I realize that just because those two can hang doesn't automatically indicate low meta, but it's suggestive. I think the trend that they set probably carries on throughout the tiers. Maybe my view is skewed though- I don't know the character that well.

my thoughts on him precisely.

Originally posted by Digi
K, so I've been able to confirm that he became a microscopic amoeba in a television episode. Not a comic. That doesn't mean he hasn't, or can't, just that I didn't find it. I assume we're not considering the cartoon canon, but it certainly lends some credence to my thoughts on BB.

Also a wiki mention of him becoming a swarm of fireflies and a group of barnacles. So multiples? Obviously wiki's can be edited, but there's also no particular reason to think the claim is false. I don't know what counts as proof for leo, though, since this is the only evidence I can offer.

I've followed BB for quite some time, and I've never seen him go microscopic. I have seen him transform into ridiculously small insects, though (gnats, ticks, etc.) -- sometimes even transforming into swarms of small animals, as you mentioned. He's also transformed into demon-esque animals (ala Trigon) as well as alien animals.

But the only trait I've seen BB use that could put him over the cap, is power-stacking (ie. using multiple animal powers simultaneously.) /shrug

Originally posted by Galan007
I've followed BB for quite some time, and I've never seen him go microscopic. I have seen him transform into ridiculously small insects, though (gnats, ticks, etc.) -- sometimes even transforming into swarms of small animals, as you mentioned. He's also transformed into demon-esque animals (ala Trigon) as well as alien animals.

But the only trait I've seen BB use that could put him over the cap, is power-stacking (ie. using multiple animal powers simultaneously.) /shrug

he can powerstack his animal abilities? if this is fact, he will be banned. i thought he could only use one shape and powerset at a time. i know he can shift shapes quickly, but didn't think he could stack animal abilities. anyone show this?

Thanks for the info Galan. If he can't go microscopic, can't stack, can't duplicate, etc. I really don't have a problem with him. Gnats and ticks aren't anything that can't be countered.

Originally posted by leonidas
he can powerstack his animal abilities? if this is fact, he will be banned. i thought he could only use one shape and powerset at a time. i know he can shift shapes quickly, but didn't think he could stack animal abilities. anyone show this?
I know for a fact that BB has become a 'hybrid' (at will) which allowed him to stack animal powers. What I can't remember is if there were any extenuating circumstances behind that ability. It seems like I remember him only using it as a last resort because it was hard for him to control all of those powers at once.

Originally posted by Digi
Thanks for the info Galan. If he can't go microscopic, can't stack, can't duplicate, etc. I really don't have a problem with him. Gnats and ticks aren't anything that can't be countered.
No problemo.

I know judges still have 3 and a bit hours, but I really need to know if I'm going to have to pump out a write-up by Wednesday, so I'd appreciate some quick votes if that's cool...

plus, although it's only for seeding, and although it's a ridiculously short match, Charlotte and I still need votes. No pressure (don't vote for her cause of this post... haermm), but Monday midnight's approaching fast.

Originally posted by Original Smurph
I know judges still have 3 and a bit hours, but I really need to know if I'm going to have to pump out a write-up by Wednesday, so I'd appreciate some quick votes if that's cool...

plus, although it's only for seeding, and although it's a ridiculously short match, Charlotte and I still need votes. No pressure (don't vote for her cause of this post... haermm), but Monday midnight's approaching fast.

I'm in the same boat. And I might be planning for a FFA or semis match (gundam as well). Barring some lightning quick voting here, I'm going to request another small pushback to Thurs. if we don't know what's going on by, say, Tuesday evening. I dislike delays, and I know leo does too, but the tourney still has momentum, and none of us know exactly what's going on atm. Because if I don't know this week's plan until I get home from work on Wed. it'll be all of about 30 minutes to make a full writeup.

Yeah, I'd like to apologize to both Digi and Blair. I had some pretty unexpected rl issuess thrown at me. If you guys (and leo) don't mind a slight extension, I'd be happy to give my vote on the match sometime tomorrow afternoon.

if i have to, i'll back things up one more day. please get the votes in judges.

Just did 😛

you rock! 😄

Cool. Thanks for the quick response judges.

Charlotte, I want to say 'good match', but... well, I'm pretty sure that was less than a half-assed effort from both of us, both due to RL issues each it sounds.

Either way, we both progress, so whatevs.

OTOH, the pre-approval of my senior thesis went wonderfully, guys🙂

Sorry, Smurph... I hope we'll see each other in teh grand finale.

And thanks to Omega for persuading me not to forfeit that at all.

bw chose dagger who IS approved.

Blair Wind

Static Shock:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Static_(DC_Comics)

Nightcrawler (w/swords):
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nightcrawler_(comics)

Dagger:
http://www.marveldirectory.com/individuals/d/dagger.htm

cdb

m -
http://uncannyxmen.net/db/spotlight/showquestion.asp?faq=10&fldAuto=133

Cecilia Reyes
http://uncannyxmen.net/db/spotlight/showquestion.asp?faq=10&fldAuto=119

black canary -
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_Canary

Digi

Spot:
http://marvel.com/universe/Spot

Black Panther:
http://marvel.com/universe/Black_Panther_(T%27Challa)

Iron Spiderman
http://marvel.wikia.com/Iron_Spider_Armor

Smurphs Team:

Agent Zero
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_North_(comics)

Bruce Banner
http://www.imagebam.com/image/5d798d61273409

Mr. Terrific
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mister_Terrific_(Michael_Holt)

Gundam
Did he change anyone? I might have missed it.

Pip -
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pip_the_Troll

jonas harrow -
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jonas_Harrow

punisher -
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Punisher

all right--bw has defeated digi, forcing the AWESOMENESS of the FFA! the match will begin tomorrow at 5EST. battlefield will be the sahara desert. each team starts 1km away from each other (think equilateral triangle). line of sight is blocked on all fronts by MASSIVE, 40' sand-dunes.

judges will be voting on the TWO winners to decide who goes on to the playoff rd.

match will end at midnight on monday. have write-ups in by tomorrow by 5 or forefit your place.

i'm looking forward to this match . . .