Originally posted by kgkg
Wait so Surfer wanting to talk to him and talking a blast from enragaed BRB to no effect is bill having an advantage? 😂 Craver you crack me up sometimes.Bill being able to absorb SS blast is nothing new you know that's what the hammer does if you didn't know.
Look at Surfer fights and tell me if you see him reasoning with people in half of them.
The point that I was making is that all of Surfer attacks was moot. Bill countered them and got his attacks in whereas Surfer couldnt even hit him until the board incident. Not saying that it wasnt a tactiful thing to do because again, I would have done it but its a cheap shot.
Same goes for Bill. If Bill was fighting Surfer and Bill threw his hammer and then Surfer then proceed to whip his a** and then during the a** whippin Bill hammer clubs Surfer in the back of the head and then Bill gets the advantage. HHHHMMMM, sound like a cheap shot to me.
Originally posted by carver9The fight wasn't long. Bill can block attacks nothing new. lol at all Bills attacks going through you realize Bill hit him once while he was close and wanted to discuss the matter? Great job there lol
Apparently you attacking someone and NONE of your attacks is going through yet the other person is getting all of their attacks in. 😕
Originally posted by carver9That's like saying somebody getting teed off on, and blocking all of them, and landing two shots that did nothing means that the two shots equals an ass kicking.
Apparently you attacking someone and NONE of your attacks is going through yet the other person is getting all of their attacks in. 😕
Originally posted by kgkg
The fight wasn't long. Bill can block attacks nothing new. lol at all Bills attacks going through you realize Bill hit him once while he was close and wanted to discuss the matter? Great job there lol
The sad part is Bill attacking did nothing. Board is part of Surfer Bill should have know when he knocked him off his board.
Bill hit him twice. Once across the chest, then he proceeded with an uppercut which sent Surfer through his ship.
Bill DID block all of Surfers attacks and again, if the board tactic didnt happen, (which I dont think it would happen for a second time) the fight would have played out MUCH different.
Originally posted by Blanket
That's like saying somebody getting teed off on, and blocking all of them, and landing two shots that did nothing means that the two shots equals an ass kicking.
What I'm saying is Surfer couldnt get any of his blast in whereas Bill was able to get his attacks in without much trouble.
I dont think two Hammer hits would be enough to take Surfer out.
If the fight would have played out a little long, THEN we would have seen a difference.
Originally posted by carver9Only because Surfer ran at him head first. Bill would have never touched him had Surfer stayed back... just like Surfer wouldn't have.
What I'm saying is Surfer couldnt get any of his blast in whereas Bill was able to get his attacks in without much trouble.I dont think two Hammer hits would be enough to take Surfer out.
If the fight would have played out a little long, THEN we would have seen a difference.
The fight did play out a little longer... Bill didn't look that good.
Originally posted by Blanket
Only because Surfer ran at him head first. Bill would have never touched him had Surfer stayed back... just like Surfer wouldn't have.The fight did play out a little longer... Bill didn't look that good.
LOL, out of everyone on the forum, I do not enjoy debating against you.
Surfer had no choice but to come at him like that because all of his shots wasnt getting through. By the way, I seen some twirling going on during that battle from the Surfer in the beginning of the fight.
Yep, once that board hit Bill in the back of the head Bill did not look so good. Maybe if he pressed his attack after slamming Surfer into the ship with that uppercut, the board incident might wouldnt have happened.
Originally posted by carver9K.
LOL, out of everyone on the forum, I do not enjoy debating against you.Surfer had no choice but to come at him like that because all of his shots wasnt getting through. By the way, I seen some twirling going on during that battle from the Surfer in the beginning of the fight.
Yep, once that board hit Bill in the back of the head Bill did not look so good. Maybe if he pressed his attack after slamming Surfer into the ship with that uppercut, the board incident might wouldnt have happened.
Ya, because Beta was riot shielding in the corner, basically. Ya, Surfer was twirling around the ship blasting. I'd imagine it wouldn't have looked good for Bill if he wasn't on his ship moving at incredible speeds... but I digress.
He would have came close to Surfer, and Surfer apparently can make him spray blood with a punch. as well as him forfeiting the riot shield corner idea. I don't know if it would have ended much different.
Originally posted by carver9
So basically with your assumption we are basing things off of what was shown during a fight because if thats the case, Thor>Surfer if we look at everything on panel.During that fight Bill was blocking every attack Surfer sent his way and he did the same thing while fighting Star Dust. I see no reason why he cant block them on a forum fight since he has proven reflex wise as being capable of doing so. I agree, Surfer did shrug off the hammer hits but I think the fight would have lasted far longer than it did without that smart but yet cheap shot tactic.
Not really. The only time thor has actually beaten surfer was during B and T and he was not portrayed at regular levels at all.
Bill blocked and absorbed two of surfers blasts iirc. Big whoop. We know that is what the hammer does. However blocking two blasts from a holding back surfer isnt equivalent to blocking every single of the hundreds of blasts that will be thrown at him consecutively at extremely high speeds from Surfer in a forum fight. As i said before calling surfers board attack a cheap shot tactic does not at all erase its validity in a forum fight. He has been shown to use this tactic on multiple occasions and can and will use it here. Yes the fight may have lasted longer than it did if Surfer didnt use the board (the result would have been the same regardless), but if he had a means of attack to end the fight very quickly why shouldnt he have used it? Frankly u have no case whatsoever.....
Originally posted by carver9
I never said anything was wrong with Surfer not using his board but for a second fight, I cant see it playing out like that, especially since Bill was handing Surfer his ass in the beginning of the fight.By the way, Surfer always try to reason with people when he is fighting, its just part of his character. That doesnt mean that he is holding back. Why would he hold back against someone as powerful as Bill or Thor?
Handing surfer his ass? Thats more like u talking out of ur ass. Bill got in the first two hits which did absolutely nothing to surfer. And thats only because surfer flew in trying to reason with him in the first place. Jeez, u have the reading skills of a blind man.
And moreover Surfer attempting to reason and talk it out with his opponents while fighting them most of the time is clear evidence of him holding back (which he does almsot always). He does it because he doesnt want to hurt them and sees the diplomatic route as a preferrable alternative. Further the exact reason that he would hold back against someone like Bill or Thor is that they are his friends and his he would especially not want to cause them harm, but if violence is inevitable, he want to defeat them while inflicting as little harm as possible.
Originally posted by quanchi112
Even before so he easily recovered from bill's initial attack.
I dont think it was a easy recover since Bill had the chance to say a sentence before Surfer attacked again.
I dont think two hammer shots would be enough to harm Surfer anyway, especially with the Juggernaut level durability that he have BUT in a prolong fight, straight up, those hammer shots would have taken its toll.
I cant see the same trick happening twice and reflex wise, Bill can dodge it a second time and do the same thing that Surfer is doing, having his hammer attack Surfer from different angles.
Originally posted by carver9It might not but Surfer easily recovered while Bill was beaten down while Surfer was still trying to talk and reason with a fanatic.
I dont think it was a easy recover since Bill had the chance to say a sentence before Surfer attacked again.I dont think two hammer shots would be enough to harm Surfer anyway, especially with the Juggernaut level durability that he have BUT in a prolong fight, straight up, those hammer shots would have taken its toll.
I cant see the same trick happening twice and reflex wise, Bill can dodge it a second time and do the same thing that Surfer is doing, having his hammer attack Surfer from different angles.