You refuse to say what your reasoning boils down to, quanchi112. You thus, have no position whatsoever. Concession accepted. Until you can say it, you've got nothing. I can't believe you managed to corner yourself so tightly that you made yourself shut up.
Nobody here has accomplished that feat. You deserve a medal.
Originally posted by OneDumbG0I've stated the scale is different but the power level remains the same unless you think the power level is conserved and increases only when needed to save energy? Is this your newest stance?
You refuse to say what your reasoning boils down to, quanchi112. You thus, have no position whatsoever. Concession accepted. Until you can say it, you've got nothing. I can't believe you managed to corner yourself so tightly that you made yourself shut up.Nobody here has accomplished that feat. You deserve a medal.
Say this, "I'm quanchi112, and I believe that the UN nullifying a small marble is just as powerful a feat as nullifying and recreating the entire Marvel Multiverse."
In other words... this (a marble sized nullification sphere):
... is just as powerful a feat as this (the complete destruction/recreation of the entire Marvel Multiverse):
For the better good of this forum, we must record this for future generations. Do it! DO IT!!!! arrrgh
Originally posted by OneDumbG0The scale is different. Now would you answer my question and please prove your claim.
Say this, "[b]I'm quanchi112, and I believe that the UN nullifying a small marble is just as powerful a feat as nullifying and recreating the entire Marvel Multiverse."In other words... this (a marble sized nullification sphere):
... is just as powerful a feat as this (the complete destruction/recreation of the entire Marvel Multiverse):
For the better good of this forum, we must record this for future generations. Do it! DO IT!!!! arrrgh [/B]
^ Complete dodge. You have no claim. You have no argument. You have nothing. I can't believe you managed to put yourself in such a predicament. shocklaugh
Until you can say it: "I'm quanchi112, and I believe that the UN nullifying a small marble is just as powerful a feat as nullifying AND RECREATING the entire Marvel Multiverse."
... you have nothing. You haven't claimed the IG can match the UN's greatest feat. You won't even claim that Thanos would only have to deal with the same thing Magus did. And I'm so good with that. stoned
Originally posted by OneDumbG0I answered your question and no size doesn't indicate anything with regards to these characters. Is the midgard serpent harder to erase than Odin?
^ Complete dodge. You have no claim. You have no argument. You have nothing. I can't believe you managed to put yourself in such a predicament. shocklaughUntil you can say it: "[b]I'm quanchi112, and I believe that the UN nullifying a small marble is just as powerful a feat as nullifying AND RECREATING the entire Marvel Multiverse.
"... you have nothing. You haven't claimed the IG can match the UN's greatest feat. You won't even claim that Thanos would only have to deal with the same thing Magus did. And I'm so good with that. stoned [/B]
What am I supposed to be arguing with? You don't claim the IG can even match the UN's greatest feat. You won't even claim that Thanos would only have to deal with the same thing Magus dealt with. kinda
UN is more powerful. And it's plainly evident that dealing with a tiny, less powerful amount of power does not mean you can just as easily deal with an exponentially greater amount of power.
1) Just because IG Magus manipulated a tiny sphere of nullification, doesn't mean IG Thanos can manipulate or simulate a blast which instantly destroys/recreates the entire Marvel Multiverse. 2) Just because Human Torch can manipulate a tiny fireball, doesn't mean he can manipulate or simulate the Firelord's entire output of Power Cosmic heat. 3) Just because IG Thanos defeated a single hex blast of Wanda, doesn't mean he'd use the same amount of power to turn back or even be able to simulate the Omniversal Chaos Wave.
Nothing. You've got nothing. You've been utterly reduced to desperate dodging, pitiful attempts to change the subject, and asking random questions to avoid your complete inability to even state a claim. And I'm good with that. doped
Originally posted by OneDumbG0I don't have to because in a direct comparison we know the ig is more powerful. To prove Hulk is stronger than Thor I don't need to prove he can lift the midgard serpent do I? You are so juvenile here and it seems you don't even know how to properly debate. Actual comparisons are the only to gauge these characters and we cannot just ignore that and pretend these 1 time only feats prove anything.
What am I supposed to be arguing with? You don't claim the IG can even match the UN's greatest feat. You won't even claim that Thanos would only have to deal with the same thing Magus dealt with.UN is more powerful. And it's plainly evident that dealing with a tiny, less powerful amount of power does not mean you can deal with an exponentially greater amount of power.
[b]1)
Just because IG Magus manipulated a tiny sphere of nullification, doesn't mean IG Thanos can manipulate or simulate a blast which instantly destroys/recreates the entire Marvel Multiverse. 2) Just because Human Torch can manipulate a tiny fireball, doesn't mean he can manipulate or simulate the Firelord's entire output of Power Cosmic heat. 3) Just because IG Thanos defeated a single hex blast of Wanda, doesn't mean he'd use the same amount of power to turn back or simulate the Omniversal Chaos Wave.Nothing. You've got nothing. You've been utterly reduced to desperate dodging, pitiful attempts to change the subject, and asking random questions to avoid your complete inability to even state a claim. And I'm good with that. doped [/B]
I know you're incapable of thinking that size =/= power. Like when you tried to compare the size of the visible nullification field that hit Death with one that hits a mountain.
But consider this: 1) life-sized Odin blow-up doll vs 2) fully powered Odin w/ Odinforce? Would the visible nullification on-panel be any bigger between the two? No. But is there a difference in things that one would have to nullify between the two? You betcha. Because while they may share the same physical body, the UN would also have to nullify the entirety of the Odinforce in the latter situation. It'd have to nullify not just Odin's physical body, but also the energy that the Odinforce represents as well.
Just because the "visible size" doesn't change, doesn't mean the amount of power involved isn't increased exponentially. Nullifying a wax statue of Death uses FAR LESS power than nullifying the avatar of Death and the entire concept of death from the entire universe. There's literally that much more to nullify.
I'd worry that I'm patronizing you or insulting your intelligence. But really, let's not kid ourselves here. You still think that nullifying a tiny marble is as powerful a feat as nullifying AND RECREATING the entire Marvel Multiverse. Of course... you just won't say it outloud.
Originally posted by OneDumbG0So you just admitted that the actual being matters that's being nullified. So size doesn't matter I guess. The other actual point is you need to prove the un varies in power level.
I know you're incapable of thinking that size =/= power. Like when you tried to compare the size of the visible nullification field that hit Death with one that hits a mountain.But consider this: [b]1)
life-sized Odin blow-up doll vs 2) fully powered Odin w/ Odinforce? Would the visible nullification on-panel be any bigger between the two? No. But is there a difference in things that one would have to nullify between the two? You betcha. Because while they may share the same physical body, the UN would also have to nullify the entirety of the Odinforce in the latter situation. It'd have to nullify not just Odin's physical body, but also the energy that the Odinforce represents as well.Just because the "visible size" doesn't change, doesn't mean the amount of power involved isn't increased exponentially. Nullifying a wax statue of Death uses FAR LESS power than nullifying the avatar of Death and the entire concept of death from the entire universe. There's literally that much more to nullify.
I'd worry that I'm patronizing you or insulting your intelligence. But really, let's not kid ourselves here. You still think that nullifying a tiny marble is as powerful a feat as nullifying AND RECREATING the entire Marvel Multiverse. Of course... you just won't say it outloud. [/B]
Now again why did you ignore my example between thor and the hulk since you seem obsessed with feat debating though you cannot prove the ig lacked the power required to do so. I fail to see a point. You cannot even fathom the futility of feat boasting.
What's being nullified matters. Try to keep up.
Of course, your utter inability to even claim that the IG can halt or match the UN's greatest feat is combined with your wholly laughable reliance on a flimsy on-panel comparison in an outdated story. Before the UN's true power was revealed. kinda
Which would be like me suggesting that Ironman's repulsor rays wtfpwned Gems' power in an outdated story. Before the Infinity Gems' true power was revealed. shocklaugh
Again, I'd worry that I'm insulting your intelligence by pointing out the obvious flaw in your rhetoric, but let's face it. You'll take that fallacy to your grave and dig yourself into such a hole that you end up believing that nullifying a tiny marble is just as powerful a feat as nullifying AND RECREATING the entire Marvel Multiverse. Comedy gold. You are a treasure, quanchi112.
Originally posted by OneDumbG0I have an on panel comparison which means I don't have to. You can't seem to get it still.
What's being nullified matters. Try to keep up.Of course, your utter inability to even claim that the IG can halt or match the UN's greatest feat is combined with your wholly laughable reliance on a flimsy on-panel comparison in an outdated story. Before the UN's true power was revealed. kinda
Which would be like me suggesting that Ironman's repulsor rays wtfpwned Gems' power in an outdated story. Before the Infinity Gems' true power was revealed. shocklaugh
Again, I'd worry that I'm insulting your intelligence by pointing out the obvious flaw in your rhetoric, but let's face it. You'll take that fallacy to your grave and dig yourself into such a hole that you end up believing that nullifying a tiny marble is just as powerful a feat as nullifying [b]AND RECREATING
the entire Marvel Multiverse. Comedy gold. You are a treasure, quanchi112. [/B]
The power levels don't change whatever gets touched gets nullified.
Naturally, not only will you argue that nullifying a marble is as powerful a feat as nullifying AND RECREATING the entire Marvel Multiverse...
... but you'll even try to argue that I'm relying on one flimsy feat. Black says the pot to the kettle. Who is it that wishes to ignore an entire storyline that reveals the UN's true power, and only wants to talk about an outdated story where Magus pwns Quasar? Who only shoots a tiny sphere of nullification? You. That's who. lulzgasm^2
Ironman >>> Gems' power. He did, after all, destroy the Star Gem. (Let's just ignore Infinity Gauntlet and Infinity War.) kinda
This is an on-panel comparison. Gems' inherent power never changed. Just it's application. Just like Quasar w/ UN. Say it. Ironman >>> Gems' power. Say it!!!! arrrgh
Originally posted by OneDumbG0You can continue to tout feats but when an actual comparison has been done on panel the ig far outclasses it and has been described as absolute power. What does absolute power mean to you?
Naturally, not only will you argue that nullifying a marble is as powerful a feat as nullifying [b]AND RECREATING the entire Marvel Multiverse...... but you'll even try to argue that I'm relying on one flimsy feat. Black says the pot to the kettle. Who is it that wishes to ignore an entire storyline that reveals the UN's true power, and only wants to talk about an outdated story where Magus pwns Quasar? Who only shoots a tiny sphere of nullification? You. That's who. lulzgasm^2
Ironman >>> Gems' power. He did, after all, destroy the Star Gem. (Let's just ignore Infinity Gauntlet and Infinity War.) kinda
This is an on-panel comparison. Gems' inherent power never changed. Just it's application. Just like Quasar w/ UN. Say it. Ironman >>> Gems' power. Say it!!!! arrrgh [/B]