HOM Wanda vs. Thanos w/ IG

Started by OneDumbG042 pages

No. You tried to stick to your guns until you realized how retarded it was. Cyclops optic blast is the same optic blast. He shoots a hole in a dime, he shoots a hole in a mountain. You nearly suggested they were the same power. But even you couldn't state something so retarded. Nice way sticking to your guns. As in: not.

One more time! Which takes more power: 1) nullifying a small marble, or 2) nullifying and then recreating the entire Marvel Multiverse?

Say it. I must quote this for future posterity! arrrgh

Originally posted by OneDumbG0
No. You tried to stick to your guns until you realized how retarded it was. Cyclops optic blast is the same optic blast. He shoots a hole in a dime, he shoots a hole in a mountain. You nearly suggested they were the same power. But even you couldn't state something so retarded. Nice way sticking to your guns. As in: not.

One more time! Which takes more power: [b]1) nullifying a small marble, or 2) nullifying and then recreating the entire Marvel Multiverse?

Say it. I must quote this for future posterity! arrrgh [/B]

I backed up my argument that a concentrated blast makes more sense as being more powerful than a 3 star system destroying blast which didn't eradicate all who were hit by it. That makes perfect sense, actually.

The un's power doesn't change so the scale changes for the second situation but the power behind it remains the same.

^ So a wide area optic blast that punches a huge hole in a huge granite mountain is less powerful than a concentrated blast that punches a pin-sized hole in a marble made of granite? Say it! Must quote for the masses! arrrgh

Nonono. You're avoiding the question. So I'll rephrase. Which requires a greater buildup of power within the UN: 1) nullifying a small marble, or 2) nullifying and then recreating the entire Marvel Multiverse? You're on the record now, quanchi112.

History is in the making. crackers

Originally posted by OneDumbG0
^ So a wide area optic blast that punches a huge hole in a huge granite mountain is less powerful than a concentrated blast that punches a pin-sized hole in a marble made of granite? Say it! Must quote for the masses! arrrgh

Nonono. You're avoiding the question. So I'll rephrase. Which requires a greater buildup of power within the UN: [b]1) nullifying a small marble, or 2) nullifying and then recreating the entire Marvel Multiverse? You're on the record now, quanchi112.

History is in the making. crackers [/B]

I didn't say that I said a concentrated blast say from galactus used on Thanos makes more sense as more powerful than getting hit by an all encompassing blast ala annihilation.

It's the same which I have stated the entire time when we are discussing the un. The answer is obvious if we separate the un from this argument but then again it's like you don't understand the un nullifies what it hits it's power levels don't vary.

^ How did this turn into Thanos and Galactus? I'm asking you, Cyclops concentrates a thin blast to punch a pin-sized hole in a granite marble. He takes his visor off and obliterates an entire mountain. Which blast was more powerful?

No. Say it. Don't dismiss the answer. State the answer. Which requires a greater buildup of power within the UN: 1) nullifying a small marble, or 2) nullifying and then recreating the entire Marvel Multiverse?

Which feat requires a greater power buildup within the UN? Ready for your close-up, quanchi112? peaches

Originally posted by OneDumbG0
^ How did this turn into Thanos and Galactus? I'm asking you, Cyclops concentrates a thin blast to punch a pin-sized hole in a granite marble. He takes his visor off and obliterates an entire mountain. Which blast was more powerful?

No. Say it. Don't dismiss the answer. State the answer. Which requires a greater buildup of power within the UN: 1) nullifying a small marble, or 2) nullifying and then recreating the entire Marvel Multiverse?

Which feat requires a greater power buildup within the UN? Ready for your close-up, quanchi112? peaches

That question has nothing to do with the un. I already said the mountain one a few posts back. How many times do I have to answer these questions before you realize that I have?

The un acheives the same power every time the scale changes is all.

If you want to disagree then prove the un varies based on the threat.

^ But it's teh same optic blastorz! Whys you can no see that both iz teh same?!

Say your answer as a statement: "I'm quanchi112, and I believe that the UN nullifying a small marble is just as powerful a feat as nullifying and recreating the entire Marvel Multiverse."

It varied between nullifying Korvac and nullifying the Marvel Multiverse to defeat Abraxas. Question answered. Now state the damn answer above so I can quote it from now on. That's your answer, you should have no problem typing it for everyone to see. Do it. DO IT!

He did not just log off on me. crackers

Oh no he di'in't! ohno

The UN erased the concept of Death from the entire 9777 Universe,
and it only required a nullification sphere the size of a human being (female)
even smaller than that since Mistress Death takes the form of a pathetic skeleton.

Yet, somehow the UN needs to build up this fantastical 'extra' power to nullify Eternity/Infinity,
which are concepts that equate to the same connection. ("CornerStones of Reality"😉

Yea ok ... dur

The "CornerStones of Reality" are:

Eternity/Infinity/Oblivion/Death

yawn ... Actually,
this truth only proves that the nullification sphere is at the same power level,
at any scale. (realistically - on panel/handbooks - there are NO "levels" concerning the UN)

This "level" theory is a complete fallacy!

Originally posted by OneDumbG0
^ But it's teh same optic blastorz! Whys you can no see that both iz teh same?!

Say your answer as a statement: "I'm quanchi112, and I believe that the UN nullifying a small marble is just as powerful a feat as nullifying and recreating the entire Marvel Multiverse."

It varied between nullifying Korvac and nullifying the Marvel Multiverse to defeat Abraxas. Question answered. Now state the damn answer above so I can quote it from now on. That's your answer, you should have no problem typing it for everyone to see. Do it. DO IT!

You really need to prove a claim that the un operates at different levels of power. You go from one unbackable claim to the next. It's rather amusing when you can't prove one thing and then jump to another thing you cannot claim.

Originally posted by Mr Master
The UN erased the concept of Death from the entire 9777 Universe,
and it only required a nullification sphere the size of a human being (female)
even smaller than that since Mistress Death takes the form of a pathetic skeleton.

Yet, somehow the UN needs to build up this fantastical 'extra' power to nullify Eternity/Infinity,
which are concepts that equate to the same connection. ("CornerStones of Reality"😉

Yea ok ... dur

The "CornerStones of Reality" are:

Eternity/Infinity/Oblivion/Death

yawn ... Actually,
this truth only proves that the nullification sphere is at the same power level,
at any scale. (realistically - on panel/handbooks - there are NO "levels" concerning the UN)

This "level" theory is a complete fallacy!

According to odg's logic that blast was less powerful than the power from the un to erase a mountain.

I'm confused as to how this thing a about the UN have been going on for 6 dang pages.

Also ever like 3 posts i switch between siding with one and quan.Although my interpretation of what mister masters just said is that no matter what the size of the blast the power is still the same.If that interpretation is right then quan is right and an incomplete IG pwned un.

But one also has a good point that the un has preformed a feat that Ig has never done.It destroyed/recreated multiverse.Ig has never done that.Then again no one with IG wanted to do that.And no one ever will unless that exceed LT's judgment.

Everyone seems to be switching from one argument to another every page.Even Mr. Masters.

IMO I would call it a stalemate bewteen IG and UN power wise.IG has killed/beat eternity without any apparent harm to the user(thanos) but UN has done the same thing.UN also recreated but if it had the power to destroy then IMO if it could destroy it it would recreate it.

I'd like to say a lot more about how annoying this is but i'll just leave it at that.Bada already warned me and I will not defy him.He know your every move... 😕 (ominous music plays).

(look below)

Originally posted by OneDumbG0
When did we start talking about alternate UN's? kinda

Frankly, you've called shenanigans on people trying to use Impossible Man's adventure with an alternate IG in a What If? and rightly so. Take the double-standard phail outta here, k? shocklaugh

Past that, I will wholly address why your reliance on that is utterly faulty anyway. Because I'll assume you'll apply double-standards for your own opinions and accordingly, I don't mind taking the time to show you why they fall flat.

What did that alternate UN nullify? A body the size of a frail skeleton? Or the entire concept of Death throughout that entire universe? Answer: latter. So while you equate visible size to power. I don't, and never have. That alternate UN nullified far more than was ever seen. Just because the visible representation was minute, doesn't make the power building within it or its effect any less tremendous.

Say this, "I'm Mr Master, and I believe that the UN nullifying a single atom is just as powerful a feat as nullifying and recreating the entire Marvel Multiverse."

Say it. I will quote this as the representation and cornerstone of your entire argument. Don't be bashful now. doped

That was overdone dude.

Originally posted by Mr Master
The UN erased the concept of Death from the entire 9777 Universe,
and it only required a nullification sphere the size of a human being (female) even smaller than that since Mistress Death takes the form of a pathetic skeleton.

Yet, somehow the UN needs to build up this fantastical 'extra' power to nullify Eternity/Infinity, which are concepts that equate to the same connection. ("CornerStones of Reality"😉

Yea ok ...

The "CornerStones of Reality" are: Eternity/Infinity/Oblivion/Death

... Actually, this truth only proves that the nullification sphere is at the same power level, at any scale. (realistically - on panel/handbooks - there are NO "levels" concerning the UN)

This "level" theory is a complete fallacy!

When did we start talking about alternate UN's? kinda

Frankly, you've called shenanigans on people trying to use Impossible Man's adventure with an alternate IG in a What If? and rightly so. Take the double-standard phail outta here, k? shocklaugh

Past that, I will wholly address why your reliance on that is utterly faulty anyway. Because I'll assume you'll apply double-standards for your own opinions and accordingly, I don't mind taking the time to show you why they fall flat.

What did that alternate UN nullify? A body the size of a frail skeleton? Or the entire concept of Death throughout that entire universe? Answer: latter. So while you equate visible size to power. I don't, and never have. That alternate UN nullified far more than was ever seen. Just because the visible representation was minute, doesn't make the power building within it or its effect any less tremendous.

Say this, "I'm Mr Master, and I believe that the UN nullifying a single atom is just as powerful a feat as nullifying and recreating the entire Marvel Multiverse."

Say it. I will quote this as the representation and cornerstone of your entire argument. Don't be bashful now. doped

Originally posted by Black bolt z
I'm confused as to how this thing a about the UN have been going on for 6 dang pages.

Also ever like 3 posts i switch between siding with one and quan.Although my interpretation of what mister masters just said is that no matter what the size of the blast the power is still the same.If that interpretation is right then quan is right and an incomplete IG pwned un.

But one also has a good point that the un has preformed a feat that Ig has never done.It destroyed/recreated multiverse.Ig has never done that.Then again no one with IG wanted to do that.And no one ever will unless that exceed LT's judgment.

Everyone seems to be switching from one argument to another every page.Even Mr. Masters.

IMO I would call it a stalemate bewteen IG and UN power wise.IG has killed/beat eternity without any apparent harm to the user(thanos) but UN has done the same thing.UN also recreated but if it had the power to destroy then IMO if it could destroy it it would recreate it.

I'd like to say a lot more about how annoying this is but i'll just leave it at that.Bada already warned me and I will not defy him.He know your every move... 😕 (ominous music plays).

(look below) That was overdone dude.


You clearly never read the IG vs CA thread.

Originally posted by quanchi112
You really need to prove a claim that the un operates at different levels of power. You go from one unbackable claim to the next. It's rather amusing when you can't prove one thing and then jump to another thing you cannot claim.

According to odg's logic that blast was less powerful than the power from the un to erase a mountain.

UN can nullify a single marble, or it can nullify the entire Marvel Multiverse AND RECREATE the entire Marvel Multiverse. The correlation between power differential is obvious. See above for my deconstruction of Mr Master's painfully shallow argument. I'll narrow it down for you though: what takes more power to nullify? An Odin that possesses the Odinpower, or a completey depowered Odin? Answer: the former. There's more to Odin than just the body that houses him.

And frankly, don't project your predilection for changing the subject when you're on the losing side of an argument. I still find it hilarious you try to confine Magus >>> Quasar just in Infinity War whilst ignoring Abraxas and can't admit that Ironman's repulsors >>> Star Gem in Star Gem saga whilst ignoring true Infinity Sagas.

Now say this, "I'm quanchi112, and I believe that the UN nullifying a small marble is just as powerful a feat as nullifying and recreating the entire Marvel Multiverse."

In other words... this (a marble sized nullification sphere):

... is just as powerful a feat as this (the complete destruction/recreation of the entire Marvel Multiverse):

Do it! DO IT!!!! arrrgh

Originally posted by Omega Vision
You clearly never read the IG vs CA thread.
CA?

Originally posted by Black bolt z
I'm confused as to how this thing a about the UN have been going on for 6 dang pages.

(look below) That was overdone dude.

Because people are trying to suggest that Magus pwning Quasar's tiny nullification sphere means Thanos would pwn Wanda's Omniversal altering command through the IG's sheer power. If the former isn't true, the latter ain't.

I like my Mr Master and quanchi112 well-done with some worcestershire sauce. biscuits

Originally posted by OneDumbG0
Because people are trying to suggest that Magus pwning Quasar's tiny nullification sphere means Thanos would pwn Wanda's Omniversal altering command through the IG's sheer power. If the former isn't true, the latter ain't.

I like my Mr Master and quanchi112 well-done with some worcestershire sauce. biscuits

Wanda has one feat.Thats the only reason I would vote for thanos on this thread.Like I said b4 according to mr masters the nullifier can change the size of the sphere.Nullifying a pebble and the multiverse would take the same energy from the UN not saying it couldn't do both.Also it's possible quasar wasn't using it to it's full potential for doesn't the amount of concentration matter?

try some won-doe-mus on them.It's a good spice but sadly they make it no more.

Originally posted by Black bolt z
Nullifying a pebble and the multiverse would take the same energy from the UN not saying it couldn't do both.

Also it's possible quasar wasn't using it to it's full potential for doesn't the amount of concentration matter?

try some won-doe-mus on them.It's a good spice but sadly they make it no more.

Same type of energy arguably? Matchstick's flame is the same type of energy, i.e., heat, just as Human Torch's supernova blast is. Doesn't mean that a person easily manipulating the former can easily manipulate the latter. I mean... Surfer manipulates all sorts of energies... he ain't manipulating a galaxy's worth as easily as he does a simple laser blast.

Absolutely. Not only did it nullify the entire Marvel Multiverse instantly... the UN recreated that which is nullified. Concentration, knowledge... or just the win-factor that makes Reed, Reed and the phail-factor that makes Quasar, Quasar. All that had to do with the UN not showing its true power in Infinity War. Same way Thanos idiotically used the Infinity Gems' power to blow up stars one at a time.

Thanks for describing it to me, getting my hopes up, then telling me they don't make it anymore. cry

Originally posted by OneDumbG0
Same type of energy arguably? Matchstick's flame is the same type of energy, i.e., heat, just as Human Torch's supernova blast is. Doesn't mean that a person easily manipulating the former can easily manipulate the latter. I mean... Surfer manipulates all sorts of energies... he ain't manipulating a galaxy's worth as easily as he does a simple laser blast.

Absolutely. Not only did it nullify the entire Marvel Multiverse instantly... the UN recreated that which is nullified. Concentration, knowledge... or just the win-factor that makes Reed, Reed and the phail-factor that makes Quasar, Quasar. All that had to do with the UN not showing its true power in Infinity War. Same way Thanos idiotically used the Infinity Gems' power to blow up stars one at a time.

Thanks for describing it to me, getting my hopes up, then telling me they don't make it anymore. cry

Well I agree with parts of all of your arguments and disagree with parts of them all.

If you go to wisconsin you could get some lol.I looked on Ebay they don't even have it there.

^ Well, I'm wholly interested in what parts you disagree with. As it stands, what their argument boils down to is, because Magus pwned a tiny sphere of nullification, Thanos could pwn a Multiverse-sized nullification/recreation or simulate such effect himself. Because apprently, nullifying a marble is just as powerful a feat as nullifying and RECREATING the entire Marvel Multiverse.

And that ties back to this thread. Because by that logic, they're arguing that Thanos would use just as much of the IG's power doing this to Wanda's hex blast:

... as he would dealing with all of this ripping across the entire Marvel Omniverse, the Chaos Wave:

Those two blasts by Wanda were the same power. So he'd deal with both situations just as easily. dur