HOM Wanda vs. Thanos w/ IG

Originally posted by OneDumbG0
Actually... if something destroys and recreates the multiverse... that's more powerful than taking over a single universe. So however you delude yourself into ignoring that logic, good luck with it. Already danced this dance, and you tripped over yourself and conceded. You just managed to amplify your butt-hurt, since nothing else has changed from your original admission and concession: Lulz. So the IG, whose greatest feat is taking over a single universe, is more powerful than a character that proved absolutely immune to the IG's power, and is more powerful than an artifact that instantly destroyed/recreated the entire Marvel Multiverse. It takes talent to be this retarded. You sir, have a unique gift.

Choose your words more carefully... he never not once proved to be absolutely immune to the IG. False statement. He proved to be immune to ONE shot... there is ZERO proof he could've taken every shot the IG would fire at him. Furthermore, it was stated on panel by Maelstrom that his power was not on the IG's level.

^ I'll choose my words more carefully when I'm not dealing with someone whose logic isn't "Who cares if something can destroys a multiverse or a universe, that doesn't mean anything in terms of power." And I'm not going to argue the nuances of plain presentation with you either. A.Maelstrom utterly no-sold IG-Thanos' blast. That's all there is to it.

Furthermore, it was stated on-panel by Maelstrom that the IG "may well surpass the power of the Quantum Bands." This point has been brought up before by those who would butcher plain English:

Originally posted by Mr Master
Malestrom clearly pointed out that his power source was beneath the IG. He also pointed out, only if Thanos was adept in his use. Thanos had just acquired the IG, and unlike Magus, didn't adapt so quickly.

Originally posted by OneDumbG0
Read that scan more closely and you'll recognize that Maelstrom is only comparing the power of the IG to the Quantum Bands. Maelstrom has his own kinetic control powers, the amp provided by Oblivion and his Anomaly status all in addition to the Quantum Bands.

Thanos would beat HOM wanda w/ UN.Thanos wins.

Originally posted by OneDumbG0
Actually... if something destroys and recreates the multiverse... that's more powerful than taking over a single universe. So however you delude yourself into ignoring that logic, good luck with it. Already danced this dance, and you tripped over yourself and conceded. You just managed to amplify your butt-hurt, since nothing else has changed from your original admission and concession: Lulz. So the IG, whose greatest feat is taking over a single universe, is more powerful than a character that proved absolutely immune to the IG's power, and is more powerful than an artifact that instantly destroyed/recreated the entire Marvel Multiverse. It takes talent to be this retarded. You sir, have a unique gift.

Handbook.

The comic also states differently than the bio unlike the abraxas bio. Tanking one shot also doesn't mean you are completely immune to the ig and even if it did that doesn't mean he's more powerful just immune. Do you ever think about what you post before you post?

^ I have Multi-Eternity being destroyed on-panel by the UN. The Multi-Eternity that was introduced on-panel in the same story. The literal personification of all the alternate universes that were getting distorted and melded into a mess on-panel. The UN which Reed literally states can destroy the Multiverse on-panel. How you go from this:

Originally posted by quanchi112
Ok, I wasn't rereading this arc. I guess with the evidence it does seem to point towards a multiverse. This is the proof I have been asking for so I don't know why it took you this long to post it.

Originally posted by quanchi112
You never proved it did just speculated it did. Handbook says it didn't so you got nothing.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Handbook.

The comic also states differently than the bio unlike the abraxas bio. Tanking one shot also doesn't mean you are completely immune to the ig and even if it did that doesn't mean he's more powerful just immune. Do you ever think about what you post before you post?

The comic basically portrayed plainly, that IG-Thanos was completely impotent when faced with A.Maelstrom. His power was ineffective. His prescience was ineffective. And that's basically confirmed by the handbook. Do you ever think that your own self-serving logic has completely gutted every argument you've ever made? And that upon recognition of that, the only thing you can do now is argue, "Well I know I conceded you proved your argument before, but I change my mind based on my uncontrollable butt-hurt."

Control yourself. Don't let the butt-hurt control you.

Originally posted by OneDumbG0
^ I have Multi-Eternity being destroyed on-panel by the UN. The Multi-Eternity that was introduced on-panel in the same story. The literal personification of all the alternate universes that were getting distorted and melded into a mess on-panel. The UN which Reed literally states can destroy the Multiverse on-panel. How you go from this: to this: You have no shame. It is truly something to behold. The handbooks you love also state that A.Maelstrom > IG-Thanos and that THOTU absorbed a universe. You love handbooks.

The comic basically portrayed plainly, that IG-Thanos was completely impotent when faced with A.Maelstrom. His power was ineffective. His prescience was ineffective. And that's basically confirmed by the handbook. Do you ever think that your own self-serving logic has completely gutted every argument you've ever made? And that upon recognition of that, the only thing you can do now is argue, "Well I know I conceded you proved your argument before, but I change my mind based on my uncontrollable butt-hurt."

Control yourself. Don't let the butt-hurt control you.

I changed my mind and got it right in the end you are still clinging to the wrong opinion.

The comic disagrees with the bio of Maelstrom even his own words disagree. In my case there is no contradiction. I win again.

^ It's not speculation that Multi-Eternity was destroyed on-panel by the UN. It's not speculation that Multi-Eternity was introduced on-panel in the same story. It's not speculation that all the alternate universes were getting distorted and melded into a mess on-panel. it's not speculation that Reed literally states the UN can destroy the Multiverse on-panel. And it certainly isn't speculation that all Abraxas' past actions were not erased.

You don't even have a position. You're just insisting that somehow, someway, your arguments aren't gutted. You're not fooling anybody. Especially not when you changed your mind three times, on the same issue, looking at the same evidence.

You're the one that disagrees. You hate that the comic plainly portrays that A.Maelstrom is immune to the IG's power and prescience. You hate that the bio confirms the same. But you love bios. And I already posted the scan that you've misrepresented in the past as if A.Maelstrom admits that IG-Thanos is superior. He compared the Quantum Bands and the Infinity Gems. English. English motherf@cker, do you speak it?

sam

Originally posted by OneDumbG0
^ It's not speculation that Multi-Eternity was destroyed on-panel by the UN. It's not speculation that Multi-Eternity was introduced on-panel in the same story. It's not speculation that all the alternate universes were getting distorted and melded into a mess on-panel. it's not speculation that Reed literally states the UN can destroy the Multiverse on-panel. And it certainly isn't speculation that all Abraxas' past actions were not erased.

You don't even have a position. You're just insisting that somehow, someway, your arguments aren't gutted. You're not fooling anybody. Especially not when you changed your mind three times, on the same issue, looking at the same evidence.

You're the one that disagrees. You hate that the comic plainly portrays that A.Maelstrom is immune to the IG's power and prescience. You hate that the bio confirms the same. But you love bios. And I already posted the scan that you've misrepresented in the past as if A.Maelstrom admits that IG-Thanos is superior. He compared the Quantum Bands and the Infinity Gems. English. English motherf@cker, do you speak it?

sam

Maelstrom disagrees within the comic as pointed out. Un is only universal and it's never been capable of restarting the multi.

Originally posted by quanchi112
It's speculation whether or not the multi was erased it wasn't as per the bio.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Maelstrom disagrees within the comic as pointed out. Un is only universal and it's never been capable of restarting the multi.

Originally posted by OneDumbG0
By your reliance on handbooks > on-panel evidence, then Thanos doesn't have matter manipulation. A.Maelstrom > IG-Thanos. And THOTU absorbed a universe. You can live in your deluded world. I'll take on-panel evidence > handbooks anyday. You're an idiot or a troll. This is English. A.Maelstrom didn't say IG-Thanos was superior. He said the Infinity Gems were superior to the Quantum Bands. Read the panel and then pick whether you're an idiot or a troll:

I don't care if thothu did only absorb a universe it was more powerful than the Living Tribunal.

Yes, as the quantum bands were his impressive power source at the time the ig far surpassed them. Everything adds up for me not for you.

^ Oh... so those are all errors contradicted by on-panel evidence? Nope. Those are all true. Since the on-panel evidence actually supports it (save for Thanos not having matter manipulation). You love handbooks. Reed nullified/recreated the Marvel Multiverse. Get over it. After all, you already did... twice.

Alternate universe Reed's gun pwned Living Tribunal. You love handbooks.

And you're again wrong, since A.Maelstrom had his own kinetic powers, was empowered by Oblivion and had usurped Anomaly's powers. The Quantum Bands weren't his only power source. Compounding more wrong on top of your original wrong? Good job not comprehending English. But I guess you love being wrong as much as your handbooks.

Originally posted by OneDumbG0
^ Oh... so those are all errors contradicted by on-panel evidence? Nope. Those are all true. Since the on-panel evidence actually supports it (save for Thanos not having matter manipulation). You love handbooks. Reed nullified/recreated the Marvel Multiverse. Get over it. After all, you already did... twice.

Alternate universe Reed's gun pwned Living Tribunal. You love handbooks.

And you're again wrong, since A.Maelstrom had his own kinetic powers, was empowered by Oblivion and had usurped Anomaly's powers. The Quantum Bands weren't his only power source. Compounding more wrong on top of your original wrong? Good job not comprehending English. But I guess you love being wrong as much as your handbooks.

He wasn't Oblivion's avatar at this point in the arc that happened in the end and at this point his bread and butter was the quantum bands which he compared to the ig.

Ig>>>>>>quantum bands. You don't need to be an adept user anyway to beat a quantum band wielder. This is th ekind o flogic you support.

^ Already showed you the on-panel blowing up of Multi-Eternity. However you want to deal with it this time around, is ultimately your choice. And since you choose to change your mind three times over, you're choosing to be an idiot or a troll. Pick whichever describes you best.

Yes. He was empowered by Oblivion at that point. AND he became Anomaly. AND he had his own kinetic powers. Reread Cosmos in Collision. I'm not even going to rub this in. You're just mistaken.

No sh1t, sherlock. And that's all that Maelstrom states and that's all the comic states. it's also portrayed that A.Maelstrom no-sold IG-Thanos' blast and operates outside his prescience. try to keep up.

Originally posted by OneDumbG0
^ Already showed you the on-panel blowing up of Multi-Eternity. However you want to deal with it this time around, is ultimately your choice. And since you choose to change your mind three times over, you're choosing to be an idiot or a troll. Pick whichever describes you best.

Yes. He was empowered by Oblivion at that point. AND he became Anomaly. AND he had his own kinetic powers. Reread Cosmos in Collision. I'm not even going to rub this in. You're just mistaken.

No sh1t, sherlock. And that's all that Maelstrom states and that's all the comic states. it's also portrayed that A.Maelstrom no-sold IG-Thanos' blast and operates outside his prescience. try to keep up.

He wasn't Oblivion's avatar yet you claim this version is more powerful than the ig?

Please say you are serious.

Surviving a blast unaffected doesn't equal immunity. I mean this is the worst logic out there.

Originally posted by quanchi112
No, you didn't show him recreating the multiverse and the bio clearly states universe so it's speculation unless you can show me definitive proof otherwise.

He wasn't Oblivion's avatar yet you claim this version is more powerful than the ig?

I'm not talking about Oblivion recreating him. I'm talking about before A.Maelstrom was killed by his own black hole. And the claim is displayed on-panel plainly and confirmed via the handbooks you love so much. So why have a problem with it?

Originally posted by quanchi112
Please say you are serious.

Surviving a blast unaffected doesn't equal immunity. I mean this is the worst logic out there.

Yeah... like manipulating a marble-sized sphere doesn't equal superior power. When are you going to remember that all these debates you think you're having only serve to undercut your own idiotic rationale?

Do you really think I care about getting you to outright admit you're incorrect? You've done that twice here already. What possible meaning would a third admission be when you pull quanchiwaffles? The only thing I've done, and continue to do, is use your own backwards logic against you. This only serves to corner you into even further untenable positions. And eventually you make an idiotic argument like "marble-sized sphere = Multiverse-wide blast" or "handbooks override on-panel evidence." And without realizing it, you start tearing your own arguments apart.

Good job raping yourself.

Originally posted by OneDumbG0
The Multiverse being recreated happens in the next panel. It's called: an "illustration."

I'm not talking about Oblivion recreating him. I'm talking about before A.Maelstrom was killed by his own black hole. And the claim is displayed on-panel plainly and confirmed via the handbooks you love so much. So why have a problem with it? Please say you're an idiot.

Yeah... like manipulating a marble-sized sphere doesn't equal superior power. When are you going to remember that all these debates you think you're having only serve to undercut your own idiotic rationale?

Do you really think I care about getting you to outright admit you're incorrect? You've done that twice here already. What possible meaning would a third admission be when you pull quanchiwaffles? The only thing I've done, and continue to do, is use your own backwards logic against you. This only serves to corner you into even further untenable positions. And eventually you make an idiotic argument like "marble-sized sphere = Multiverse-wide blast" or "handbooks override on-panel evidence." And without realizing it, you start tearing your own arguments apart.

Good job raping yourself.

The comics directly contradicted this whereas they didn't contradict anything in your case.

So should Maelstrom be taken seriously when he says an ig user must be competent to beat a quantum bands user?

^ The bio stated A.Maelstrom > IG-Thanos and all you have is speculation that he wasn't immune while we have proof he was.

The comic directly supported this whereas they supported everything else in my case.

So should you keep deflecting from the fact that you literally just raped your own arguments? Again? I'd tell you to stop, but you apparently enjoy it. Moreover, you're pretty damn good at it.

Originally posted by OneDumbG0
^ The bio stated A.Maelstrom > IG-Thanos and all you have is speculation that he wasn't immune while we have proof he was.

The comic directly supported this whereas they supported everything else in my case.

So should you keep deflecting from the fact that you literally just raped your own arguments? Again? I'd tell you to stop, but you apparently enjoy it. Moreover, you're pretty damn good at it.

No, the bio states universe which doesn't support your case.

No, you deny the truth and live in your own world and lost this drebate a long time ago.

There is no winner to this debate.But quan your not winning.You just contridicted yourself.

Originally posted by Black bolt z
There is no winner to this debate.But quan your not winning.You just contridicted yourself.