Originally posted by WhiteWitchKingOwned Quasar. Who didn't even know the IG was activated. By manipulating a tiny sphere of nullification energy. lulz
Like when Magus with an incomplete IG contained the Ultimate Nullifiers blast? Yeah. Same thing is going to happen to Wanda.
Never ceases to amaze me how much traction the BA > Spectre fallacy actually has.
Originally posted by OneDumbG0
Owned Quasar. Who didn't even know the IG was activated. By manipulating a tiny sphere of nullification energy. lulzNever ceases to amaze me how much traction the BA > Spectre fallacy actually has.
Tiny sphere or not it was nullification energy that energy manipulated. Whether Quasar knew the IG was activated or not didn't matter because it still wouldn't have changed his goal or wiping out Magus' citadel. He'd already release it's energy when the IG was activated seconds later. Third, what does BA have to do with this because it was never the writers intent to say BA was greater than the Spectre. In the case of the UN, it was even stated "a champion far from his home learns that the word ULTIMATE carries little weight in this current contest of titans." The UN meant little to the IG and got owned.
Originally posted by Xplosive
When Thanos with THOTI, after defeating LT and others, then went on absorbing other realities out of existence,... hm let Thanos with THOTI see if others would fight back... how he would do then. 🙂I know Wanda can't compare to THOTI, but we could use that. We saw no one could fight against Chaos Wave, which was Wanda power. Galactus was a joke compared to it and it practically said Wanda was the most powerful being when her power were at the peak. Eternity didn't fight Wanda directly, but Eternity couldn do anything against her power.
Let see how would Wanda do against Galactus who would fight back?. I mean, do you think Galactus was just a joke there and tossed there, because he wanted it or because he was forced and couldn't do anything about it?.
Destroying an omniverse (tell me who did what Wanda did, how many can you name them). And on top of that, she did it easily. I mean she destroyed the omniverse not even directly with her power and no one could stop it and when she chose directly, she put it back with a though effortlessly and instantaneously. Destruction of an omniverse actually happened when Wanda was around (not only ''It could happen, it there wasn't for?...), but it actually happened. When her power was destroying Omniverse, where was Eternity and others to stop it? I mean they interfered for less and lesser powers. Did they just stood there? They simply couldn't do anything about it, that's why she did what she did, because they were useless. That's why it was said Wanda was the most powerful being when her power unleashed (''No matter how grandiose sentient being, this power topped them'' or something in that manner. I don't have a scan.). And she actually backed it up with a feat of such power that almost no being has in comic history (including Thanos with IG).I mean, you simply don't get it.
Saturyn was going to kill her and the 616 with the Celestial Nullifier. What part of that don't you understand? Wanda doesn't even have cosmic awareness like him nor speed, he's going to remove her from extisence with a thought before she could think.
There are greater powers than CN and yet, why did no one stop Wanda? There are cosmic beings with cosmic awareness and why was no one aware of Wanda and what she was capable of (or because simply her power dwarfed them)? What happened with/to them? Oh yes, torn to pieces along with Omniverse and then put back with a thought. You think such power as Wanda can be removed from existence just like that? You think because she is a mutant and from ''flesh'' that she is actually vulnerable and can be put out just like that? When Omniverse was torn to pieces, it was nothing to her. When she obliterated 616, she was in the center (where was Eternity to stop her. Why didn't Eternity do anything, but was a joke to Scarlet Witch). Why wasn't she put out of existence. Why didn't such power put her out of existence?
And why it was said Wanda was the most powerful being in Omniverse (which she backed up with one of the greatest feat ever in comic history, inlcuding IG)?
Actually until yesterday, you didn't even know she destroyed and put back Omniverse with a thought. And you were saying to me, if I realized what she was capable off. Acutally, you had her just as some normal powerful reality warper.
I wouldn't be surprised if you would say Juggernaut is more durable than her.
Originally posted by Xplosive
There are greater powers than CN and yet, why did no one stop Wanda? There are cosmic beings with cosmic awareness and why was no one aware of Wanda and what she was capable of (or because simply her power dwarfed them)? What happened with/to them? Oh yes, torn to pieces along with Omniverse and then put back with a thought. You think such power as Wanda can be removed from existence just like that? You think because she is a mutant and from ''flesh'' that she is actually vulnerable and can be put out just like that? When Omniverse was torn to pieces, it was nothing to her. When she obliterated 616, she was in the center (where was Eternity to stop her. Why didn't Eternity do anything, but was a joke to Scarlet Witch). Why wasn't she put out of existence. Why didn't such power put her out of existence?And why it was said Wanda was the most powerful being in Omniverse (which she backed up with one of the greatest feat ever in comic history, inlcuding IG)?
Actually until yesterday, you didn't even know she destroyed and put back Omniverse with a thought. And you were saying to me, if I realized what she was capable off. Acutally, you had her just as some normal powerful reality warper.
I wouldn't be surprised if you would say Juggernaut is more durable than her.
Well, one could argue the LT and the likes knew what the outcome would be and didn't bother intervening because the omniverse would go on with comparatively minor alterations, so she was just a part of the normal cosmic process. But it's strictly speculative.
Originally posted by Xplosive
There are greater powers than CN and yet, why did no one stop Wanda? There are cosmic beings with cosmic awareness and why was no one aware of Wanda and what she was capable of (or because simply her power dwarfed them)? What happened with/to them? Oh yes, torn to pieces along with Omniverse and then put back with a thought. You think such power as Wanda can be removed from existence just like that? You think because she is a mutant and from ''flesh'' that she is actually vulnerable and can be put out just like that? When Omniverse was torn to pieces, it was nothing to her. When she obliterated 616, she was in the center (where was Eternity to stop her. Why didn't Eternity do anything, but was a joke to Scarlet Witch). Why wasn't she put out of existence. Why didn't such power put her out of existence?
So wait, we should believe that she's capable of destroying the Omniverse but that we she ignore Saturyne and Roma's threat of wiping her out from existence with the CN?
And why it was said Wanda was the most powerful being in Omniverse (which she backed up with one of the greatest feat ever in comic history, inlcuding with IG)?Actually until yesterday, you didn't even know she destroyed and put back Omniverse with a thought. And you were saying to me, if I realized what she was capable off. Acutally, you had her just as some normal powerful reality warper.
LOL. Until yesterday? WTF are you smoking? I asked what her best feat was that puts her above the IG. You people seem to think her feats gave her power over the IG which gives you mastery over reality. You don't seem to understand that. I already told you the UN possessed the same scope of destruction and yet the IG still owned it. Yet you people cling to that one feat as some how going to prevent her from getting kill by Thanos.
I wouldn't be surprised if you would say Juggernaut is more durable than her.
Juggernaut is more durable than her. Her best feat was surviving an arrow, even Wolverine can pull that one off. OMG, she warped the Omniverse therefore her durability must be OVER 9,000!!!!
Originally posted by WhiteWitchKing
So wait, we should believe that she's capable of destroying the Omniverse but that we she ignore Saturyne and Roma's threat of wiping her out from existence with the CN?
I thought that was only supposed to halt the wave from spreading into other realities. I don't think they knew what/who the source was.
Originally posted by 753
Well, one could argue the LT and the likes knew what the outcome would be and didn't bother intervening because the omniverse would go on with comparatively minor alterations, so she was just a part of the normal cosmic process. But it's strictly speculative.
One of the options. But then we could say that for anyone who was in similar place. THOTI, Protege, Pre-R Beyonder,... (all more powerful than Wanda in my opinion). Or we can use that for any case actually.
I just think she dwarfed them as the narrator said. And with enormous feat she had, it's possible.
Originally posted by WhiteWitchKing
So wait, we should believe that she's capable of destroying the Omniverse but that we she ignore Saturyne and Roma's threat of wiping her out from existence with the CN?
Roma herself said then that she had no chance against SW (or chaos wawe). She thought so, but found out that she was completely useless.
I asked what her best feat was that puts her above the IG. You people seem to think her feats gave her power over the IG which gives you mastery over reality.
It's you who doesn't understand it. I mean, you come and ask such stupid questions or say ''What if Eternity would fight back''. I mean, who are you kidding? Really, are you joking?
Originally posted by WhiteWitchKing
Juggernaut is more durable than her. Her best feat was surviving an arrow, even Wolverine can pull that one off. OMG, she warped the Omniverse therefore her durability must be OVER 9,000!!!!
Like I thought so. I mean, there is really nothing more to discuss with you.
Originally posted by Stranglehold300
But still why give Thanos the Ig.He doesent need it.
If he has prep he will know what to do.
He can trap Wanda or teleport her into anouther dimision.
And you topped them all.
Originally posted by WhiteWitchKingSpectreforce was also manipulated. BA > Spectre according to your shallow reasoning. Fascinating. UN blinked out the Marvel Multiverse and recreated it. Get over it. Thanos was utterly impotent against Anomaly Maelstrom. Get over it.
Tiny sphere or not it was nullification energy that energy manipulated. Whether Quasar knew the IG was activated or not didn't matter because it still wouldn't have changed his goal or wiping out Magus' citadel. He'd already release it's energy when the IG was activated seconds later. Third, what does BA have to do with this because it was never the writers intent to say BA was greater than the Spectre. In the case of the UN, it was even stated "a champion far from his home learns that the word ULTIMATE carries little weight in this current contest of titans." The UN meant little to the IG and got owned.
Originally posted by quanchi112Shut up, troll. We're speaking English here. Stop whining about your butt-hurtin. Go buy some cream at the corner store and be quiet.
That coupled with the writer's own statements which mean little to odg who disregards what he wants and makes things up.