World War Hulk vs Juggernut

Originally posted by quanchi112
Another poster who is butthurt. I have responded to his argument. If you think someone who ignores what happens in the comics and makes up bfr type victories for Juggs without even giving one shred of evidence to back it up that's why I see you as a hulk hater. Evidence isn't required and the outcome is the opposite of what happened when these two met. Because you are wrong. The comic backs me up like usual.

Originally posted by Omega Vision
^Sam=Juggernaut, Quan=WWH. Just like in the comic Juggs is kicking Hulk's ass. Quan just wants to Roleplay as his beloved character.

Originally posted by quanchi112

Another poster who is butthurt.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Yet Hulk was com to get rid of him. Making Hulk bleed doesn't not mean almost beating the Hulk let alone WW Hulk.

Originally posted by quanchi112

Posting scans of the Hulk stalemating Juggs in strength and bfring him only hurts your case.

Originally posted by quanchi112

We've already seen my scenario is more than likely again since tom b also as the Juggernaut.

Originally posted by quanchi112

Couldn't do jack to more damage than Juggs. LOL.

Originally posted by quanchi112

You can't prove it is and off panel means we don't know exactly what happenedanyways. Do you debate often?

Originally posted by quanchi112

You are wrong their strength was redirected underground which was clearly own.

Originally posted by quanchi112

Uhm, yeah if you calmly telling him he is going to get Prof. X is owning means do you?

Originally posted by quanchi112

How did he get stomped?

Originally posted by quanchi112

By your own logic get to Prof. X? Wow.

Originally posted by quanchi112

He tossed him far enough to count as a wto return to the battlefield.

Originally posted by quanchi112

1. You never even proved Juggs bfr's anyone? You made the claim and can't even show me onepanel. Please at least understand how a debate works and prove something on your own.

Originally posted by quanchi112

2. The fact he gets stronger and has done so as War. If you are powerful enough you can overpower the enchantment. It's common sense.

Originally posted by quanchi112

3. WW Hulk wasn't ko'd while we have seen juggs manhandled prior to by Onslaught, Juggs isn't as strong as any Hulk provided he is angry enough by tom b himself.

Originally posted by quanchi112

No, it doesn't it shows Hulk hold his own and easily take care of Juggs when he wantedddoing what you want is called owning someone. Juggs was easily cast aside while Hulk was fine.

Originally posted by quanchi112

Based on what proof can Juggs ko him here? Did you miss the entire story?

Originally posted by Ptr_Grifin
Alright now that you posted, although you didn't accomplish anything with that post, go back and read one of Sam's posts.

I'll give you a moment....

See, you're still wrong.

Originally posted by Omega Vision
I guess the entire forum is butthurt then, because the sentiment is very much universal here.

Originally posted by Mshinu
Quan`s butt nerves were damaged beyond repair a long time a ago so he no longer feels the hurt. 😉

Originally posted by Lord_Talron
the burden of proof is on you sir, no matter how right you may be you are required to find sufficient proof that beyond reasonable doubt juggy cant ko wwhulk and wwhulk can ko juggy. based on what sam has shown us, i cannot find anything [b]beyond reasonable doubt that juggy cant ko wwhulk and wwhulk can ko juggy. it doesnt matter how much you say look hulk wasnt hurt by juggy's punches. first off, it was like 2-3 punches; i wouldnt expect anyone short of galactus with the infinity gauntlet and the ultimate nullifier to be able to take him down in that few moves (exaggeration). secondly, one can argue that hulk's punches were just as ineffective against juggy. so once again, you have not proven beyond reasonable doubt that juggy cant ko wwh and wwh can ko juggy [/B]

Originally posted by Doctor-Alvis
If this were true the debate would be even with few very questionable points for each side.

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Sam ZED smash puny Hulk argument.

Originally posted by quanchi112
I have already crushed his argument. Go back and read my responses. You can't even tell me how or why I lost so at this point it's personal on your end.

Really? Where?

Another personal attack to take attention away from the victory I have in this thread.

Neither were in any real trouble so I fail to see your point. WW Hulk gets stronger while Juggs doesn't. Pretty cut and dry. You are right I am routing him at this point.

It's okay man. Everybody goes through a little bit of denial in their life. And in this thread, that person is you. But don't let it drag you down. Defeat will just build your character.

I don't need to point out why your argument has failed. Sam has done that time and time again. My words would only fall on deaf ears, or in your case, blind eyes.

Originally posted by SamZED
Speaking of butts. How's your doing after this? Gotta hurt...
Just 2 posts ago you said he was tired after fighting the x-men thus was at disadvantage when faced Juggernaut. Now it's back to "completely fine". Seriously, you can't even keep up with your own posts. Ignore it all you like, im not surprised seeing how you said and I quote "Juggernaut didn't hurt Hulk at all". The truth is, Juggernaut dropped Hulk to the ground with a lazy hook. And Hulk looked like crap after getting stomped on. Its even funny how fast he went from "im so much tougher now, you're dead Jugernaut" to "Err.. you know im in a rush so gotta run see ya" and cinviniently after getting trashed. Making him bleed does not = ko. But beating the crap outta him that resulted in him looking like crap = ko soon to come. Nothing supports your "theory" about Hulk no getting koed, looking at the book, it's clear to anyone he was gonna drop eventually. Its all in the book. You have nothing to counter it with.
😆 It only proves my point. "stalemating" lol You were probably looking at different scans, the ones I posted showed Juggernaut wtfpwning Hulk and Hulk running away after a lucky bfr. And even that was thanks to Xavier's distraction. Not gonna be the case in a forum fight.
Sorry but no. You're scenario is something you'd WANNA happen, but there's no evidence in its favor. While my scenario takes into concideration character's abilities and powers. And what I know is this - Juggernaut has taken attacks more powerfull than anything Hulk could come up with. At basic level or at any other. Not to mention you can't even prove that angrier Hulk would do any better (et alone hurt Juggs) He's had more than enough time for his strength to increase. Stil Juggernaut overpowered him. And Marvel's book >>>>> some link with SUPPOSEDLY Tom B's opinion. We have the book. It lets us judge who's stronger and who did better in the fight. Anything beyond that is your speculation.

lol I see you have your own UNIQUE view on the fight. That's actually how it was - Hulk used Xavier distracting Juggernaut and did a side step. Which happened after Juggernaut through and through owned him in the fight causing him to bleed all over the place, dropped him with a hook and stomped on his face, with Hulk BARELY holding, and that's just 3 attacks. Make that 20 and Hulk would've been done and that's what wouldve happed if Hulk kept fighting. He pretty much should thank professor for saving his ass. lol
Yeah, but most of the time with poseters who in respond to my proofs provide theirs and that listen to reason... We know for a fact that she beat him. And know for a fact she did it without any help (not counting the squirrel) and without any upgrades. What's else to know? And just forget about this example, only brought it up to show that "it happened in the book logic" doesnt always work for KMC.
I dont even understand your excuses any lnger, that's my problem. Redirected underground? The hell does that have to do with anything other than it almost caused the building to collapse and made Xavier distract Juggernaut. Dont see how it helps you case in any way. Hulk's been pushed back. Juggernaut wasn't. Fact. Juggernaut knocked Hulk down with a punch like a ragdoll. Also fact. Kinda settles the whole strength argument if you ask me.
I do. And this is it:
Might as well post it in character's ownage thread.

Look at the scan above.
He didn't have to use distraction of his opponent to escape the fight with EVERYONE ELSE. But he had to do that with Juggernaut. 3 fast strikes from Juggernaut caused him more damage than combined efforts of all the teams, and the "fight" didnt even last a minute. Face it, Juggernaut was slowly but definitely beating the crap outta Hulk. And he wouldve dropped eventually if the fight continued. Nothing supports your theory about him being unkoable by Juggernaut. As for him not being hurt after the fight, he has a hf, hardly something to brag about. He was FAR from fina and more than just hurt during the fight and his hf would've helped him for a while but wouldn't have saved him. Again, that was pretty clear in the book.
He didn't "toss" him it was Juggernaut's own momentum, which wouldnt have even been the case if Juggernaut didnt look away from the fight. Again, they BOTH are capable to BFR one another, while Juggernaut got overall physical advantage mostly because of his superior durability and forcefield that plays the most important role in a fight of two bricks that are more or less evenly matched in strength. How you gathered that it = in Hulk taking the majority is beyond me, or anyone really.
Dont have to. Since post#1 its been me provding scans and proofs non-stop. I even starting the whole BFR debate was because of your crazy claim that it is physically impossible for Juggernaut to BFR Hulk. So Im asking you to SUPPORT your OWN claim which you didnt do because youre either too freakin lazy or just can't and in any of these cases you should just admit you're wrong instead of demending for more proofs from me. Do YOU know how debates work? It's we each say something and support it with evidence, so far its been me showing proofs and you asking for more after failing to support your argument. That's NOT how debate should go.But what the heck here you go.
http://s246.photobucket.com/albums/gg102/Knowsbleed33/Strength/Excalibur%203/?action=view&current=pure_strength3.jpg Let me guess, now you're gonna say it doesnt count and ask for more? How about you a) Either explain why its impossible for Juggernaut to BFR Hulk. Or b) Find courage to finally admit that you're wrong and we can forget about the BFR part.
Um.. no. You can't. You'd need more than just pure physical strength upgrade to overpower the enchantment. There's no evidence that Hulk can punch through the spell no matter how pissed he is. More powerfull attacks have failed. You can't build your argument and give wins based on your IDEA that something POTENTIALLY MIGHT happen especially if there's evidence for the countrary. THAT'S not how debates work.
Stop repeating some text you found on the internet as if it's hlly Bible. It doesn't prove anything. Even if he were stronger that wouldnt stop him from getting KOed, his HF would only help him last longer. You can't just say he wont be koed because you refuse to believe that its possible. It is and its gonna happen after a long beating from Juggernaut. Again, you got nothing to argue that with.
Again, you have your own UNIQUE view on the fight. I cant convince that you're wrong because you're too stubborn, but I can tell you how me and the rest of the world sees that fight - Juggernaut treating Hulk like a punching bag and clearly dominating in the fight and Hulk getting saved by a plot device. That's how the rest of us (the unbiased ones, because I can honsetly tell you I was never a Juggernaut fan) see that fight.
Based on his strength, superior durability and the effect his punches had on the Hulk. Now you. Based on what Hulk is unkoable and unbfrabe? Nothing really suggests he cant be koed.

I never said he was tired I stated he was attacked by two teams and Juggs once previously meaning he went through a lot of people before Juggs faced off against a not so fresh Hulk. Juggs had these factors in his favor and still failed. If you think Hulk was hurt would you like for me to post all the damage he took prior to the Juggernaut's second battle? According to you he was badly damaged so you can't have it both ways. Hulk took more damage prior to Juggs anyways so you are actually arguing for the Hulk at this point because he took more damage even before they threw down the second time. Nicely done sam I am.

Pwning Hulk when Hulk is standing toe to toe with him right before he beats him by bfr? Yeah, sure buddy. You are the only one I have ever met who interpreted this scene as Juggs clearly dominating the Hulk that I can remember when it's clear the Hulk got rid of him soon as he wanted to.

When did he overpower him? When? If he did why was the Hulk standing toe to toe with him? What are you even looking at? Seriously? Huh?

War has actually overcame Juggs forward momentum enchantment while tom b confirms any hulk can shoot past juggs in strength. It seems to me you want to ignore Hulk's dynamic powerset and pretend he doesn't get stronger. Why didn't Juggs beat him? Honestly, tell me? We have seen Skaar his one year old pup outsmart Juggs and bfr the idiot so what is your point?

When has Juggs taken down any Hulk on this level? When? I've even seen an amped Juggs not fare so well against a fellow exemplar who built things and wasn't even a physical beast like Juggs so I fail to see your point. Do you have one? Give me a few examples of Juggs beating someone on WW Hulk's level? Let's forget abiout war and the fact he easily overcame his enchantment and the fact that enough power can hurt Juggs. We will also forget that Skaar bfr'd him to beat him as well? What do you have? How did Juggs look recently against Captain Universe too by the way? 😂

Did onslaught Hulk look superior to Juggs when he faced off against Onslaught? I mean really whatcha got? Do I need to start posting scans?

So ww Hulk used the situation to outsmart juggs? How is that a bad thing? He already stated he didn't have the time to whoop him so he easily sent him on his way. You stated Juggs can bfr Hulk so prove your case?

Give me two examples and let's forget about the fact WW Hulk bfr'd Juggs on panel, k.

So Hulk received physical damage in a brawl with Juggs? This is what you consider owning someone? Wow. There's another example of you not knowing what owning means. Owning is when you own someone and they cannpot fight back. You don't punch someone and they immediately beat you and call that an owning? Wow.

So his head got stepped on? Is that beating ww hulk? Did you read the entire arc and see the damage he went through? Is this fight up there with the worst of it?

No juggs wasn't beating him up at all. Read the zom/strange fight. That guy was kicking Hulk's ass and doing actual damage but it still wasn't enoug to beat him. Juggs might have scraped Hulk's knee but seriously you don't even realize what the Hulk is capable of let alone WW Hulk.

So juggs looking away is Hulk's fault? No, it's me raping you with logic. Hulk has more skills as a fighter and focuses far better than Cain Marko. Marko isn't skilled really at all or intelligent really at all. I am glad you are agreeing with me that WW Hulk is much smarter and much more combat effective.

1. So you don't have to post scans of an outcome you claimed? I guess I won. I don't need to post scans because you W Hulk bfr'd him and that's what happened. If you make a claim you have to prove it. You can't even prove Juggs can beat Skaar let alone WW Hulk.

2.Are you serious? Are you saying with the power gem you couldn't grab enough raw power to hurt Juggs? War, Onslaught, Captain Universe anyone?

3.WW Hulk went through a lot more powerful attacks than Juggs has ever dished out so I'd say with the healing factor he demonstrated in the past WW Hulk clearly laughs off the bruises and scrapes he'd get from Juggs.

WW Hulk won, Juggs lost. You have a unique spin but it doesn't change how the fight ended. WW Hulk won just like I won here.

So you make stuff up and ignore the actual comics. Ok.

Originally posted by Ptr_Grifin
It's okay man. Everybody goes through a little bit of denial in their life. And in this thread, that person is you. But don't let it drag you down. Defeat will just build your character.

I don't need to point out why your argument has failed. Sam has done that time and time again. My words would only fall on deaf ears, or in your case, blind eyes.

I also seem to remember Hulk matching up against Onslaught as an equal while Juggs was treated like a complete ragdoll. Feel the burn of a hulkamaniac.

It seems that you only go by what has pretty colors instead of logic and common sense.

On panel, and colored in, Spider-Man has beaten Hulk by throwing a cement truck on him. Does that mean Spider-Man takes the majority every time they fight? Does that mean that Hulk cannot use his fist to knock him out? It was never shown on panel. There was also a moment when the Hulk was taken down by a snake. Does that the snake always takes the majority? It was never shown on panel that Hulk could defeat the snake.

The comics back me up.

Originally posted by Ptr_Grifin
It seems that you only go by what has pretty colors instead of logic and common sense.

On panel, and colored in, Spider-Man has beaten Hulk by throwing a cement truck on him. Does that mean Spider-Man takes the majority every time they fight? Does that mean that Hulk cannot use his fist to knock him out? It was never shown on panel. There was also a moment when the Hulk was taken down by a snake. Does that the snake always takes the majority? It was never shown on panel that Hulk could defeat the snake.

The comics back me up.

We've also seen other hulks fare far better against the same characters who dominated Juggs. Hulk also was a beast in his own story and was tanking grider hellfire like it was nothing. Juggs was out of his league. Hulk's too smart, his powers increase, and his healing factor was too good for Juggs to even get lucky. Losing twice to a character in the same arc is very rare but juggs pulled it off.

Get back to me when Juggs proves he can beat Hulk's one year old.

Hulk couldnt even put down Miek for good, how do think Juggs would do eh!!

This kind of argument work both ways.

Originally posted by Nihilist
Hulk couldnt even put down Miek for good, how do think Juggs would do eh!!

This kind of argument work both ways.

WW Hulk faced far greater characters than the one trick pony Juggs who isn't intelligent by any means.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Hulk was still restraining himself. He didn't even kill anyone the entire time because he held back.

WW Hulk faced far greater characters than the one trick pony Juggs who isn't intelligent by any means.

False, Hulk wasnt holding back against Miek, he thought Miek had just killed his all time best pal and battle with the warbound just to get at Miek. Hulk even carried on stopming on Mieks head when he was down a pure sign of not holding back.

Juggs also faced WWH and had the edge blow for blow, WWH could only get the win( a bfr, and in your own words..bfr is a fagg*t win) when Juggs got distracted by Xavier, so Hulk couldnt do it off his own back.

The on panel proof of the comic backs my case.

Originally posted by quanchi112
So? You can't just throw another example and act like it's the same thing as these two going head to head. We've seen war dominate Juggs and overcome his enchantments before. We also saw Hulk go wb at the end of the arc far surpassing the Hulk who took on Juggs and was his equal in strength at the time.

We've also seen other hulks fare far better against the same characters who dominated Juggs. Hulk also was a beast in his own story and was tanking grider hellfire like it was nothing. Juggs was out of his league. Hulk's too smart, his powers increase, and his healing factor was too good for Juggs to even get lucky. Losing twice to a character in the same arc is very rare but juggs pulled it off.

Get back to me when Juggs proves he can beat Hulk's one year old.

Hey, if it shows how your argument is silly on how just because Hulk did something on panel he can do it and Juggs can't, despite having other feats showing he can do these things, then why not?

War didn't dominate Juggernaut. I went back and looked over that comic. They only amazing thing he did was stop Juggernaut. Other than that, Juggs got more hits in and knocked him further(besides the throw). Knocking a 900lb man over isn't much of a feat, prying his helmet off, seemed cool, but he never actually drew blood from Cain.

The Onslaught incident is bad. Jean had to remove the Banner part from his mind to do what he did, and then he passed out. Was that his limit? Besides that, what if another force like the evil that went after the Trion had taken over Cain's mind during that time? He would have torn through Onslaught punching him into another dimension.

Originally posted by Nihilist
False, Hulk wasnt holding back against Miek, he thought Miek had just killed his all time best pal and battle with the warbound just to get at Miek. Hulk even carried on stopming on Mieks head when he was down a pure sign of not holding back.

Juggs also faced WWH and had the edge blow for blow, WWH could only get the win( a bfr, and in your own words..bfr is a fagg*t win) when Juggs got distracted by Xavier, so Hulk couldnt do it off his own back.

The on panel proof of the comic backs my case.

So bfr is a ****** win against Juggs who is a walking plot device? I get you hate the Hulk but he clearly showed up Juggs and won. He received far more damage from adamantium or from Zom/Strange and still prevailed. Only thing Juggs can do is make him madder.

Originally posted by Ptr_Grifin
Hey, if it shows how your argument is silly on how just because Hulk did something on panel he can do it and Juggs can't, despite having other feats showing he can do these things, then why not?

War didn't dominate Juggernaut. I went back and looked over that comic. They only amazing thing he did was stop Juggernaut. Other than that, Juggs got more hits in and knocked him further(besides the throw). Knocking a 900lb man over isn't much of a feat, prying his helmet off, seemed cool, but he never actually drew blood from Cain.

The Onslaught incident is bad. Jean had to remove the Banner part from his mind to do what he did, and then he passed out. Was that his limit? Besides that, what if another force like the evil that went after the Trion had taken over Cain's mind during that time? He would have torn through Onslaught punching him into another dimension.

War stopped his forward progress and scared him because he was powerful enough to overpower the enchantment. war was about to kill him and threw him around like a ragdoll. Just like I said with enough power and force you can overcome Juggs which is common sense unless you think juggs can't be hurt by anything, ever? LOL.

Yes, and Hulk fared much better. He got ko'd from the explosion but fared off like an equal. Like I said Hulk has looked superior to juggs and against the same characters.

Can you prove Juggs can beat Skaar?

Originally posted by quanchi112
My ass is fine it's yours that is bleeding to the point

Originally posted by quanchi112

I never said he was tired I stated he was attacked byNicely done sam I am.

Originally posted by quanchi112

Pwning Hulk when it's clear the Hulk got rid of him soon as he wanted to.

Originally posted by quanchi112

When did he looking at? Seriously? Huh?

Originally posted by quanchi112

War has actually overcame Juggs forward momentum enchantmis your point?

Originally posted by quanchi112

When has him as well? ? 😂

Originally posted by quanchi112

Did onslaught Hulk look superior to Jugreally whatcha got? Do I need to start posting scans?

Originally posted by quanchi112

So ww Hulk used the situation to your case?

Originally posted by quanchi112

Give me two examples and let's forget about the fact WW Hulk bfr'd Juggs on panel, k.

Originally posted by quanchi112

So Hulk received physical damage in a brawl with Juggs? Wow.

Originally posted by quanchi112

So his head ? ith the worst of it?

Originally posted by quanchi112

No juggs. Read the zom/strange fight. That guy was kickingof let alone WW Hulk.

Originally posted by quanchi112

So juggs looking away is Hulk's fault?.

Originally posted by quanchi112

1. So you don't have to post scans of Skaar let alone WW Hulk.

Originally posted by quanchi112

2.Are you serious? Are you saying with the power gem you couldn't grab enough , Onslaught, Captain Universe anyone?

Originally posted by quanchi112

3.WW Hulk went through a lot more powerful attacks than Juggs has ever dished bruises and scrapes he'd get from Juggs.

Originally posted by quanchi112

WW Hulk won, Juggs like I won here.

Originally posted by quanchi112

So you make stuff up and ignore the actual comics. Ok.

Originally posted by SamZED
Nah.. mine is just fine. Its just probably you're bleeding so hard the blood got into your eyes and you cant see right.
You said Hulk was perfectly fine before the Juggernaut fight as in his HF took care of all the injuries he had and he was in his best shape, later you said that before fighting Juggernaut he fought the x-men which was nothing but a desperate attempt to excuse Hulk getting his butt kicked. I dont think anythink about it and dont need you to post this scan, im just pointing out how you controdict your own posts. And please quote me where I said that he was damaged befre fighting Juggernaut? I only said he was damaged during the fight with X-men and later damaged by Juggernaut. Im still waiting for you to prove that "Juggernaut didn't hurt Hulk at all". I just quoted you btw.

As soon as he realised he's getting trashed actually. Hence the speed with which he changed his mind about fighting Juggernaut. And its not just me. It's everyone who read the fight, we all see Juggernaut clearly dominating in the fight. All except you. I guess we're all wrong and you're right..

The scans. I can post them again if you want. You know, when one character beats another and literaly stomps on his face before physically pushing him back and without taking any damage from that character its called winning.
Do I have to bring Squirrel Girl again? Or Spider-man beating Hulk with a cement truck?😬 Exactly how desperate are you that you have to bring up Skaar cheapshotting Juggernaut with the power Hulk doesnt even have? And that has nothing to do with the thread? He can get stronger all he wants, doesnt change a damned thing Juggernaut's durability will still remain >>>>>>>>>>> Hulk and that's not counting shields Juggernaut can put at any moment. What does it take for you to understand it? You can NOT give a character the majority in a forum battle going by YOUR IDEA of what the character POTENTIALLY might (but will definitely NOT) be able to do. It's not even ridiculous, its embarrassing. You're embarassing yourself just by suggesting that. And that's your MAIN argument, dear God...
How did Hulk do against a truck of cement? lol Ok you convinced me - Once Hulk develops some cosmic powers on Universes level Juggs will be in real trouble. Until that day comes Hulk remains Juggernaut's punching bag. And OH SURPRISE you're asking for more scans and proofs just as I asked you to prove something! (sarcastic tone) Yet AGAIN! Sorry, but im not keeping it this way, you ask for proofs, I provide them once again proving how wrong you are, you ignore them and ask for more. Newsflash! It's up to YOU to prove that Hulk can't be koed by Juggernaut because in the very book they fought Hulk was getting his ass kicked and looked like crap after 3 hits from Juggernaut, so you suggesting that he wont be koed is a dumb speculation that you'll have to try (read "fail"😉 to prove. Not me. Now go ahead and prove that Hulk is unkoable.
Once again changing the subject wont help your case especially with bringin up character with far more exotic powers than Hulk. Fact remains. Hulk punched Hulk with his both hands and it caused about as much damage as a grown up man gets from being slapped by a 3 year old. If you cant prove that Hulk can ko Juggernaut (which you can't and your speculation doesnt count) just admit you're wrong I promise I wont rub it in your face.
Already did several times, and you failed to prove that Hulk can't be bfred by the way. Congrats on that. And its not a bad thing, Hulk got an asskicking, realised he can't take the Juggernaut and used the distraction in his advantage, which saved him from a total humiliation. It is a good thing for Hulk. The problem is, it was a plot thing. Unless you think that Xavier will show up again to distract the Juggernaut the second time it hardly helps your case. And givving Hulk the majority because you're counting on a distraction is ridiculous.

Yeah no. I'll pass. You dared me once already saying that im BSing you and dont know how to debate. I once again provided the proof, while you never did. Im not gonna provide exactly 2 scans just to please you so you'd do me a favor of dropping your ridiculous "unBFRable" argument. I already proved it's possible. You failed to prove it isn't. Want scans? There's a thing called Google and 1 or even 2 respect threads on this very forum. Knock yourself out, might even learn something about the character.
Its called owning when one character OH SO CLEARLY dominates in a fight against another character even if it ends with a lucky bfr that saves the said character's ass.
There's no need for a ko to see that Juggernaut was kicking his ass and Hulk was getting beat up, he was hurting, bleeding, losing. And clearly would've dropped eventually if the fight continued, nothing suggests otherwise. Fact. Yet you look at it and say they were evenly matched and Hulk would've never been koed. That's why I have a ptoblem with you. If you say something like that you better have some good reasons. My reasons - the book.
I realise perfectly what he's capable of and now know what his fans THINK he's capable of. Speaking of Strange/Zom, if it wasnt for the PIS he would've koed (if he's lucky) Hulk right there. By the way thanks for reminding me of that. Just a futher proof that your "Hulk unkoable thing" is ridicoulos.
Its you delivering self ownage without my help actually. Hulk could have cambridge diploma for all I care, Juggernaut being distracted was one time thing and will never be the case again, we call it PIS around here. So it in no way helps your argument.
😆 That's pathetic. I provided a ton of scans including the ones that show Juggernaut wtfpwning Hulk, I trashed every single of your ridiculous theories and backed up every thing i said with proofs. You on the other hand proved jack. All you did is make several ridiculous claims worthy of a 10 year old that were nothing but your speculations, and now you "win" lol I guess in your "Hulk to english" dictionary win means got ttally embarrassed.
😂 Just how desperate ARE you? Throwing randm names in attempt to prove something. Im not gonna bother with you on this one. We dont even know what powers this new cap universe has. For all you know it was a combination of telepathy and cosmic attacks. And it is you changing subject again. You saying that Hulk will punch through the cytorak spell is a speculation and overall FAIL. You know it yourself, that's why as soon as I ask you to prove that bs you change subject.
And several times by miracle was saved from KOs and had time to heal before engaging again. Just further proves my point. A repeated beating from Juggs will put him down.

The only unique thing here is you failing to realise that a one time pis event that wont happen again is not enough to give Hulk the majority, while Juggernaut clearly dominating in the fight as well as overpowering Hulk as well as his superior durability is enough to give Juggs the majority.
No, that's what you do. Ill remind you of your to-do list again.
1)Try and fail to prove that Hulk is unBFRable
2)Try and fail to prove that Hulk is unKOable
3)Try and fail to prove that Hulk can punch throug Cytorak spell.
4)Find the courage to admit that you lost the debate and overall failed in this thread, which happened because of your bias alone. Promise we wont judge you.
See you tomorrow.

I said his healing factor can bring him up to speed but you said juggs damaged him badly. We saw him take more damage prior to so either way Hulk can heal from anything juggs did to him and even more so than he did. Juggs blows were ineffective while Hulk bfring him was effective.

So standing toe to toe with someone while telling them I don't have all day and then dismissing them is getting your ass kicked? Wow.

Stepping on someone's face isn't beating them. Hulk won and the only way you can even spin this for Juggs is to ignore the end result which saw Hulk win. Double Wow.

What does sg have to do with hulk and juggs? What does spiderman have to do with anything? Basically no mater which hulk wins you don't care meaning you want to disregard it all because you hate the hulk further proving my point. Feel the burn yet again.

Why is it every time I want to discuss Hulk and Juggs you want to change the subject and talk about cement trucks. I guess by your logic every time someone wins an dI don't agree well there's that firelord and spiderman incident so I will say it's the same thing. Triple wow.

I never said Hulk is unkoable I said juggs isn't koing him. Big diff.

I don't need to prove Hulk can ko Juggs when Hulk's powers are clearly dynamic it's a known fact he can do so. This Hulk is also smart enough to beast him via bfr any time he wants.

You have to pass because Juggs doesn't bfr people. Concession accepted.

So making Hulk bleed means he was owned? I guess he was owned the entire arc because he bled a lot. Quadruple wow.

So juggs getting easily distracted because there are people around means what? He gets easily distracted I just hope for his sake no squirrels are nearby.

Juggs lost so everything you showed was a biased view on things. Hulk didn't barely walk out of there he was fine and leapt out of there like a lion. The guy showed he was the alpha male while juggs was just some fool who challenged him.

So you ignore all the recent examples of Juggs getting his butt raped? They aren't random they are examples of Juggs getting wrecked.

No, WW Hulk was a beast and he held back and beat Juggs. The entire arc was him holding back and he still went through everybody save sentry.

It isn't. I gave examples of others beating Juggs. Skaar did so and he's one.

1)Prove juggs bfr's people.
2)Prove juggs can ko him.
3)Hulk has already stopped a cytorrak spell.
4)Start telling me how juggs wins and then back it up. You just make up random well maybe this or maybe that and when called on it you say not a chance. I can't prove a thing.

Originally posted by quanchi112
We've seen other characters wreck Juggs onlcuding another hulk so what's wrong here?

War stopped his forward progress and scared him because he was powerful enough to overpower the enchantment. war was about to kill him and threw him around like a ragdoll. Just like I said with enough power and force you can overcome Juggs which is common sense unless you think juggs can't be hurt by anything, ever? LOL.

Yes, and Hulk fared much better. He got ko'd from the explosion but fared off like an equal. Like I said Hulk has looked superior to juggs and against the same characters.

Can you prove Juggs can beat Skaar?

Hulk has yet to beat Juggernaut physically. War didn't even scratch or bruise him. Even the writers know that Hulk cannot beat Juggernaut physically. Each fight ends in a cop out, save the one time Juggernaut actually KO'd and almost killed Hulk.

He was not scared, he was surprised. War was not about to kill him either. Alot of characters claim they will kill the other, but that doesn't make it true. Especially if they don't leave one mark on them.

Hulk only fared better because of Jean, otherwise he would have been KO'd or killed earlier.

Are you serious on the Skaar thing? Look at the beginning of the fight. Juggs is a badass, but he isn't going to hit a kid, he was about to kill Skaar before the kid had to result to that cowardly tactic.

how about whoever of the two of you who stops posting wins the argument 😐