World War Hulk vs Juggernut

Originally posted by Knowsbleed33
Except WB Hulk is featless, as said previously.

Originally posted by Knowsbleed33
Oooooh he was strong as shit. Against a guy who's immune to physical force.

Originally posted by Knowsbleed33
So you're saying he's highly resistent even though you have no proof of this and you think what I said was Lulz?

Doesn't surprise me considering you think WB Hulk was so much more powerful based on, well, nothing really.

Juggs isnt immune to physical force, no one that is strong enough hasnt fought him yet....thats all.

Originally posted by quanchi112

So juggs is immune to all physical force? Since when?

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this guy is so retarded please get him out of here his retardnes makes me sick 😘

Originally posted by quanchi112
So his footsteps didn't suggest an increased power level? Seriously?

So juggs is immune to all physical force? Since when?

So common sense counts for nothing and the writer clearly stating the obvious that he was a lot more powerful? If you want to look at power levels his footsteps were causing more damage than WW Hulk's entire previous adventures so it was even proven in the comic.

juggernaut is immune to physical force unless it will be proved otherwise no one was able to hurthim physically and even thors godblast failed to do any damage

its seem youare too retarded to understand that no matter how strong hulk will get he is not going to hurt juggernaut with physical force

you are ready to eccept that no physical force can hurt sentry because he will heal out of anything(which never was stated) but you cant accept that juggernaut cant be damaged by physical force because he got magical defence against it? (now thats something that was stated) talking about hypocrits 🙄

Originally posted by jabadaya
this guy is so retarded please get him out of here his retardnes makes me sick 😘

Originally posted by jabadaya
juggernaut is immune to physical force unless it will be proved otherwise no one was able to hurthim physically and even thors godblast failed to do any damage

its seem youare too retarded to understand that no matter how strong hulk will get he is not going to hurt juggernaut with physical force

you are ready to eccept that no physical force can hurt sentry because he will heal out of anything(which never was stated) but you cant accept that juggernaut cant be damaged by physical force because he got magical defence against it? (now thats something that was stated) talking about hypocrits 🙄

Originally posted by quanchi112
It's common sense and I don't have the link. WW Hulk matched him in strength and as the two mutant teams blows were. Actually his increased rage and healing factor it's like insignificant damage.

Originally posted by quanchi112

Not at all. Hulk isn't going down because he is getting stronger and eventually he can affect Juggs physically since he was already his equal when the met up.

Originally posted by quanchi112

No, they were viewed as dead equals. Juggs isn't as strong as he needs to be that's the most fanboyish thing I have heard in a while.

Who else would say that Juggernaut can't hurt the Hulk and that he can't ko the Hulk.

The book already won this debate for me.
Who other than a biased fanboy after looking at THOSE scans would go to a vs forum and say "Hulk wins all day"? If those scans were posted in Juggs respect thread they'd be titled "Juggernaut owning WW Hulk" and everyone would agree with it. You? You look at them and say "Hulk wins all day". Face meet palm.

Originally posted by quanchi112

There are ridiculous examples and then there's hulk and juggs who are in the same weight class.

Originally posted by quanchi112

Why would I show you since you will ignore it anyways? Hmmmmm. You will say the writer stated this to appease hulk fans meaning I don't care what you show me I'll disregard it anyways.

Originally posted by quanchi112

It's not canon and it's off panel meaning it means nothing.

Originally posted by quanchi112

Yes, he said with rage involved he is stronger than Juggs while at ww hulk's equal at base level strength as ww hulk but with any increased anger he far surpasses him. Yeah, Tom B agrees any old Hulk can become stronger with rage. Looks like I win yet again.

Originally posted by quanchi112

So knocking Hulk down equals beating him? Seriously? Do you have any idea of who the Hulk is.

Originally posted by quanchi112

It still means the odds were against him. As WW Hulk he can defeat Cain twice and two teams. That's how badass he was while juggs was just some idiot he had to go through two times to get to Prof. X.

Originally posted by quanchi112

I never said it was impossible but highly unlikely as Hulk has done so to Juggs. What showings did Juggs bfr someone to back up your claim? When has he punched people off of the planet?

Originally posted by quanchi112

Off panel means we don't know what happened so it holds little if any weight. It was a This thread isn't about Thanos anyways so stick to the subject at hand.

Originally posted by quanchi112

No, we saw WW Hulk was his physical equal and that another guy from marvel stated any old Hulk can shoot past his strength with increased rage meaning I was right.

Originally posted by quanchi112

1) When has he bfr'd someone? So anyone with physical strength can bfr the Hulk at any tim like Herc? You really don't read comics at all do you? I need for you to prove it's in character for Juggs to do so mr. powerset wanna be arguer.

Originally posted by quanchi112

2)Because hulk didn't have the time to do so. His powers increase with rage so it's you think juggs is impervious to all force and nothing can hurt him.

Originally posted by quanchi112

3)Everything that happened in the past is dead. Juggs didn't phsae WW Hulk so acting as if Juggs has ko'd weaker, dumber Hulks are proof of anything other than he was depowered since you seem to want to discuss weaker hulks I will discuss weaker juggs.

Originally posted by quanchi112

Was Hulk down? Do you really think the writer intended the reader to think the hulk is in trouble here?

Originally posted by quanchi112

Hulk wins when he bfr's and his strength can hurt Juggs.

Originally posted by psycho gundam
"super saiyan" hulk looked like he's be the first guy to cleanly slap the shit out of juggernaut, "normal" king hulk deadlocked him so...

i know juggernaut wouldn't be able to mount any sort of offensive if hulk was mad enough at him to hit 20% of SS hulk (his merest footfall caused more damage than juggernaut and hulk's entire fight X 200), not getting bfr'd would be a problem for juggs.

Originally posted by SamZED
If you dont have it then dont bring it up. All Hulk did was dent his helmet, Colossus has done that, means jack. Hulk's best attacks didn't do anything to juggernaut but annoy him, I could've made Juggernaut go "nngh" by spitting in his face. And dont compare Hulk getting cut by adamantium claws and Hulk getting the crap beat outta him and spraying blood all over the place. You saying that he wasn't getting hurt is plain wrong. And you saying he cant get koed by Juggernaut's punches is your speculation that isnt backed up with anything. The book itself shows him getting his ass handed to him.

Another speculation that isnt backed up with anything. Attacks far more pwerful than Hulk's punches failed to hurt let alone ko Juggernaut.
Now you're calling ME a fanboy? Seriously, I was trying my best to avoid calling you that because it's not polite, and unlike you I had a reason to call you that. Because who ELSE could look at those scans and say that:
They were evenly matched while the scan clearly shows Juggernaut pushing Hulk back and not the other way around.

Who else would say that Juggernaut can't hurt the Hulk and that he can't ko the Hulk.

The book already won this debate for me.
Who other than a biased fanboy after looking at THOSE scans would go to a vs forum and say "Hulk wins all day"? If those scans were posted in Juggs respect thread they'd be titled "Juggernaut owning WW Hulk" and everyone would agree with it. You? You look at them and say "Hulk wins all day". Face meet palm.
In the same weight class with the only difference that one can easilly hurt and ko another while Hulk couldn't do jack to him if he punched him all day. That makes those examples pretty valid here.
You mean like you do all the time? So far you haven't even showed my ANYTHING I could ignore. Not a single reason or proof. Basically all your posts come down to "Hulk bfred Juggernaut in the book" which happened after Hulk got his ass kicked and only thanks to Xavier distracting Juggernaut anyway.

So dont even go there.
Doesnt matter that off panel. And it is canon. You cant prove it isnt.
Juggernaut overpowered Hulk. On-panel fact. Backed up by Marvel. There's something you fail to understand here. Juggernaut's strength limit has NEVER been shown just like Hulk's. And the only time Juggs fought WWH who already (according to your own words) was physically beyond any other version of the Hulk and pissed off as it is, Juggernaut overpowered him. End discussin. And by saying "I win yet again" you wont change the fact that ive been trashing you ever since the first post.
😬 Yet another grat argument on you part.
"that's how badass he was" your posts even scream "unbiased" 🙄 He managed to beat a weak Juggernaut and got STOMPED on (literally) by normal Juggernaut. That's totally badass right there.
While Juggernaut got distracted and looked away, its not even like Hulk tossed him far away, all he did was use Xavier distracting him to step aside after making an excuse about time, obviously because his determination to fight Juggernaut instantly faided. Have you even read the book? And yes you said it's not possible for Juggernaut to bfr Hulk, and failed to explain why, now you're changing subject by asking me to prove he can. And i already explained why. Common sense + common knowledge about the character.
Fair enough. Just was pointing out how ridiculous it is to accept any pis bs writing and use it in a vs forum as long as "it happened in the book".
Meaning you can't prove anything. You showed one link of God knows what text (for all I know you wrote it yourself) and think you proved your point, while your point clearly controdicts what happened on panel.
Only someone as strong or stronger than him can bfr him, yes. And just as I expected, you cant prove jack so you dare me to post proofs (again). Everything I say makes sense and I proved it countless times. While you made claims that didnt make any sense and never proved anything. So posting proofs is up to you, not me. It seems to me you're the kind of person who just keeps arguing for the sake of arguing even if he's wrong and already lost the debate. Again [B]1) Prove that Hulk can't be bfred.
To physical force. As in punches, so unless Hulk develops some telepathy and cosmic powers Juggs has nothing to worry about. And again you're just SPECULATING that Hulk MIGHT do that, do you have proofs of that? The question stands 2) What proof do you have that Hulk can overcome the Cytorak's spell with a punch?
Im not discussing weaker Hulk and you failed once again. Show me WWH hurting normal Juggernaut just like he hurt the WEAK Juggernaut and you'd have a point. Because I can show you Juggernaut hurting WWH as easilly as he hurt another Hulk. So my argument makes sense. NOTHING suggests that WW Hulk can't be koed like any other Hulk if enough force is used. If you'll keep ignoring it ill just keep repeating my questions 3) Show proofs that WW Hulk is unkoable and doesn't get hurt by Juggernaut's punches.
What difference does it make what the writer intended, the book clearly shows Hulk getting his ass kicked.
Hulk can't ko the juggernaut, Juggernaut can ko Hulk. AND Juggernaut can bfr Hulk. All Hulk can do is hope that Xavier distracts Juggernaut again, side step and then run away after making a cheap excuse. The outcomne of the fight is clear as day. To pretty much everyone but you. [/B]

Posting scans of the Hulk stalemating Juggs in strength and bfring him only hurts your case.

We've already seen attacks less than Hulk and his strength stalemate a more powerful Juggs in 8th day. I'd say my scenario is more than likely again since tom b also agrees that Hulk is stronger when angry and that this is WW Hulk who at base levels is as strong as the Juggernaut.

Couldn't do jack to him but defeat him through bfr while Hulk bled a little which also happened prior to his second fight with Juggs. Wolverine did more damage than Juggs. LOL.

You can't prove it is and off panel means we don't know exactly what happened which means it doesn't carry any weight anyways. Do you debate often?

You are wrong their strength was redirected underground which was clearly shown on panel. You misinterpreting what happened is only your problem not my own.

Uhm, yeah if you think Hulk standing him up and calmly telling him he is going to get Prof. X is owning him you don't know what owning means do you?

How did he get stomped? By your own logic anyone who causes the Hulk to bleed owned him? You ignore the fact Hulk easily bfr'd him and was just fine and the fact he was damaged more prior to his fight with Juggernaut than by him. I guess this means everyone owned the Hulk even though he went through everyone to get to Prof. X? Wow.

He tossed him far enough to count as a win as it took Juggs quite a while to get back. You don't have ten minutes to return to the battlefield.

1. You never even proved Juggs bfr's anyone? You made the claim and can't even show me one example of him doing so so even if Hulk can be bfr'd Juggs won't even attempt it anyways? we use evidence here not powerset feats which have never occurred on panel. Please at least understand how a debate works and prove something on your own.

2. The fact he gets stronger and has done so as War. If you are powerful enough you can overpower the enchantment. It's common sense.

3. WW Hulk wasn't ko'd while we have seen juggs manhandled prior to by Onslaught, etc. We already know Juggs isn't as strong as any Hulk provided he is angry enough by tom b himself.

No, it doesn't it shows Hulk hold his own and easily take care of Juggs when he wanted to. Standing someone up an dholding your ground while announcing your intentions an ddoing what you want is called owning someone. Juggs was easily cast aside while Hulk was fine.

Based on what proof can Juggs ko him here? Did you miss the entire story?

Quan, you just need to stop. Sam is running unstoppable circles around you and you aren't even slowing him down.

^Sam=Juggernaut, Quan=WWH. Just like in the comic Juggs is kicking Hulk's ass. Quan just wants to Roleplay as his beloved character. Just like when he wanted to RP as Thanos while everyone else (RPing as Odin) kicked his ass in the Odin vs Thanos debate. biscuits

Originally posted by Ptr_Grifin
Quan, you just need to stop. Sam is running unstoppable circles around you and you aren't even slowing him down.

Originally posted by Omega Vision
^Sam=Juggernaut, Quan=WWH. Just like in the comic Juggs is kicking Hulk's ass. Quan just wants to Roleplay as his beloved character. Just like when he wanted to RP as Thanos while everyone else (RPing as Odin) kicked his ass in the Odin vs Thanos debate. biscuits

If Logic had fists, Quan would be in a wheelchair by now.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Another hulk hater come to ignore the evidence. That's fine by me it's more proof that people won't give Hulk the credit he deserves when he won their encounter and did so after he called it. Just like in the comic I win when I want to win. Juggs gets sent on his way and loses bfr. Hulk uses his intelligence just like he did against Juggs there.

Originally posted by Mshinu
If Logic had fists, Quan would be in a wheelchair by now.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Another hulk hater come to ignore the evidence. That's fine by me it's more proof that people won't give Hulk the credit he deserves when he won their encounter and did so after he called it. Just like in the comic I win when I want to win. Juggs gets sent on his way and loses bfr. Hulk uses his intelligence just like he did against Juggs there.

I tell you what you can do. You can write all you want in that little message box, of course with a 10,000 character limit or something, and post it. Then you can go back and read one of Sam's post and debunk your own argument. Rinse and repeat.

Originally posted by quanchi112
What have I stated that is wrong? Point it out.

Nah, you are in denial so I won`t waste my time.
Sam has been doing a fine job anyway so if you really can, pour out your tea and read his posts anew.

Originally posted by Omega Vision
Wait, you have intelligence? That's news to me.

Originally posted by Ptr_Grifin
I tell you what you can do. You can write all you want in that little message box, of course with a 10,000 character limit or something, and post it. Then you can go back and read one of Sam's post and debunk your own argument. Rinse and repeat.

Originally posted by Mshinu
Nah, you are in denial so I won`t waste my time.
Sam has been doing a fine job anyway so if you really can, pour out your tea and read his posts anew.

Alright now that you posted, although you didn't accomplish anything with that post, go back and read one of Sam's posts.

I'll give you a moment....

See, you're still wrong.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Another poster who is butthurt. I have responded to his argument. If you think someone who ignores what happens in the comics and makes up bfr type victories for Juggs without even giving one shred of evidence to back it up that's why I see you as a hulk hater. Evidence isn't required and the outcome is the opposite of what happened when these two met. Because you are wrong. The comic backs me up like usual.

Quan`s butt nerves were damaged beyond repair a long time a ago so he no longer feels the hurt. 😉