World War Hulk vs Juggernut

Started by quanchi11222 pages

Originally posted by Ptr_Grifin
Hulk has yet to beat Juggernaut physically. War didn't even scratch or bruise him. Even the writers know that Hulk cannot beat Juggernaut physically. Each fight ends in a cop out, save the one time Juggernaut actually KO'd and almost killed Hulk.

He was not scared, he was surprised. War was not about to kill him either. Alot of characters claim they will kill the other, but that doesn't make it true. Especially if they don't leave one mark on them.

Hulk only fared better because of Jean, otherwise he would have been KO'd or killed earlier.

Are you serious on the Skaar thing? Look at the beginning of the fight. Juggs is a badass, but he isn't going to hit a kid, he was about to kill Skaar before the kid had to result to that cowardly tactic.

So his dialogue was meant for what to fool the reader? The guy stopped his forward momentum and tossed him like a woman. What are you talking about? Hulk is more than Juggs at this point. Greater feats, more powerful, stronger, etc.

So the writer's intention with war was to show us how superior juggs was right and how war couldn't do a thing to him? Laughs.

That's still Hulk and you speculate. I've seen more formidable Hulks than Onslaught Hulk also. That's how badass Hulk is.

Juggs lost to a 1 year old. That's hilarious.

Originally posted by Lord_Talron
how about whoever of the two of you who stops posting wins the argument 😐
I think this is a superb idea.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Yes, he was. he was attacking him but even the writer states he was restraining himself and that's why he wanted to be put down because he had so much anger in him his existence was threatening the eastern seaboard.
Pak said Hulk was holding back when he fought the heroes and up untill the Sentry fight thats all, and dont come with the WB Hulk shit as it was down to shit loads of gamma as well as strength.Pak only added all this holding back shit after the story came out, because he fanboy writing failed to make Hulk OMGZ powerfull.

So bfr is a ****** win against Juggs who is a walking plot device? I get you hate the Hulk but he clearly showed up Juggs and won. He received far more damage from adamantium or from Zom/Strange and still prevailed. Only thing Juggs can do is make him madder.

I get that you hate Juggernaut, so!!
How did he show Juggs up? Juggs got more and better hits in. Hulk needed the Warbound to shield him from the adimantium so he could recover and he only survived against Zom due to ANOTHER plot device/cis in which Zom stopped beating him down like a b*tch and gave him time recover.The only thing Hulk could do is bfr as he couldnt beatdown the Juggernaut which is piss poor considering this Hulk is the strongest one there is and being the angriest he has ever been.

Juggs

Originally posted by Nihilist
Pak said Hulk was holding back when he fought the heroes and up untill the Sentry fight thats all, and dont come with the WB Hulk shit as it was down to shit loads of gamma as well as strength.Pak only added all this holding back shit after the story came out, because he fanboy writing failed to make Hulk OMGZ powerfull.

I get that you hate Juggernaut, so!!
How did he show Juggs up? Juggs got more and better hits in. Hulk needed the Warbound to shield him from the adimantium so he could recover and he only survived against Zom due to ANOTHER plot device/cis in which Zom stopped beating him down like a b*tch and gave him time recover.The only thing Hulk could do is bfr as he couldnt beatdown the Juggernaut which is piss poor considering this Hulk is the strongest one there is and being the angriest he has ever been.

Pak stated he was restraining himself as wb. Hulk still wouldn't kill. Do you honestly think he couldn't kill him had he wanted to immediately?

I don't care enough about Juggs to even hate him. He's a meh character to me.

Because he dismissed Juggs when he wanted to. Neither really hurt the other at all and we saw WW Hulk take much more damage and come out on top.

We found out later WW Hulk wasn't as angry as we thought as he purposely didn't kill anyone. I also think Zom/Strange wasn't cis and still believe Hulk would have beaten him soon as he launched his attack.

Hulk had allies in this arc but he still took a lot of adamantium and was much worse off than against Juggs who seemed to do nothing more than scratch the hulk.

Originally posted by quanchi112
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Juggs lost to a 1 year old. That's hilarious. I think this is a superb idea.

Hey, to be fair he is aged to the equivelent of a 12 year old. So he lost to preteen not a baby. 🙂

Originally posted by jalek moye
Hey, to be fair he is aged to the equivelent of a 12 year old. So he lost to preteen not a baby. 🙂
He's still 1, right? Maybe he matures in dog years plus 5.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Pak stated he was restraining himself as wb. Hulk still wouldn't kill. Do you honestly think he couldn't kill him had he wanted to immediately?
No Pak stated he held back when he fought the heroes.

Because he dismissed Juggs when he wanted to. Neither really hurt the other at all and we saw WW Hulk take much more damage and come out on top.
😂 we saw Hulk dismiss Juggs only when Xavier distracted him otherwise he wouldnt of been able to do so then.

We found out later WW Hulk wasn't as angry as we thought as he purposely didn't kill anyone. I also think Zom/Strange wasn't cis and still believe Hulk would have beaten him soon as he launched his attack.
What the hell are you basing Hulk would have beaten Zom on if not for cis? Hulk didnt get one single attack untill Zom stopped and thats including Hulk trying to jump Zom from behind and getting smashed.

Hulk had allies in this arc but he still took a lot of adamantium and was much worse off than against Juggs who seemed to do nothing more than scratch the hulk.
And Hulk did no damage at all to Juggs and we have seen Juggs take more/damage than Hulk has taken and come through

Originally posted by quanchi112
He's still 1, right? Maybe he matures in dog years plus 5.

he's 1, 2 tops. But both him and his brother aged rapidly to be early teenagers biologically. So banner and everyone says he's around 12

Originally posted by Nihilist
No Pak stated he held back when he fought the heroes.

😂 we saw Hulk dismiss Juggs only when Xavier distracted him otherwise he wouldnt of been able to do so then.

What the hell are you basing Hulk would have beaten Zom on if not for cis? Hulk didnt get one single attack untill Zom stopped and thats including Hulk trying to jump Zom from behind and getting smashed.

And Hulk did no damage at all to Juggs and we have seen Juggs take more/damage than Hulk has taken and come through

Pak stated he restrained himself as wb. He was trying as best he could and wasn't consciously trying to kill anyone. It's consistent with his mindset the entire time.

Hulk announced he was going to do so and did so. Not Hulk's fault Juggs gets easily distracted.

Because Hulk can weather his attacks while Zom cannot weather Hulk's attacks.

When has Juggs pulled through before in a similar situation? Examples?

Originally posted by jalek moye
he's 1, 2 tops. But both him and his brother aged rapidly to be early teenagers biologically. So banner and everyone says he's around 12
He's still bvery young still young and inexperienced.

Originally posted by quanchi112

He's still bvery young still young and inexperienced.

hes pretty experianced for his age, and his youth really doesnt mean much since they shoe horned him to be old enough to be a threat since they thought hulk with an actual baby would be silly. In that one or two years he's fought everything on his planet, fought his mother, fought silver surfer, fought hulk, confronted Galactus, beat up Thing, had a bomb dropped on him, etc. Plus he has an extra powerset that Hulk doesn't have losing to him isn't really the same as losing to Hulk although you can compare it to it.

Originally posted by jalek moye
hes pretty experianced for his age, and his youth really doesnt mean much since they shoe horned him to be old enough to be a threat since they thought hulk with an actual baby would be silly. In that one or two years he's fought everything on his planet, fought his mother, fought silver surfer, fought hulk, confronted Galactus, beat up Thing, had a bomb dropped on him, etc. Plus he has an extra powerset that Hulk doesn't have losing to him isn't really the same as losing to Hulk although you can compare it to it.
He is still weaker than what his father has shown himself to be capable of and despite his youth showed he is craftier than Juggs which was one of my initial points.

Originally posted by quanchi112
He is still weaker than what his father has shown himself to be capable of and despite his youth showed he is craftier than Juggs which was one of my initial points.

That same trick would work on Hulk if he didn't already know he was a kid. Hell Doom pasued for a second when he reverted. It catches people by surprise.

And really him and hulk are powerful in different ways.

Originally posted by jalek moye
That same trick would work on Hulk if he didn't already know he was a kid. Hell Doom pasued for a second when he reverted. It catches people by surprise.
I disagree. WW Hulk beat Juggs as did Skaar. The end result is juggs loses by losing focus and being outwitted despite the enchantments in his favor.

juggernaut every single fight

Originally posted by quanchi112
[B]Pak stated he restrained himself as wb. He was trying as best he could and wasn't consciously trying to kill anyone. It's consistent with his mindset the entire time.
Horseshit, pak made so many inconsistent statements his words mean nothing.The only restraining WB Hulk did was not moving so he didnt do anymore damage.

Answer this simple question, Hulk thought Miek killed rick, so seeing his best pal almost dying wouldnt make Hulk pissed and would hold back then?

Hulk announced he was going to do so and did so. Not Hulk's fault Juggs gets easily distracted.
Hulk said it as he pushed Juggs and let his momentum do the rest. 😂 easily distracted..Xavier screamed at him to stop fighting as it was wrecking the foundations.

Because Hulk can weather his attacks while Zom cannot weather Hulk's attacks.
If by wheather you mean on his knees screaming in agony with holes been punched through him and not getting in a single offensive blow then allowing him a break to recover.

When has Juggs pulled through before in a similar situation? Examples?
Taking a godblast for one is above anything WWH took, also being burned to just a skeleton in oblivion(or entropy) and survivng

Originally posted by Nihilist
If by weather you mean on his knees screaming in agony with holes been punched through him and not getting in a single offensive blow then allowing him a break to recover.

Yes, in quanlogic, that's exactly what "weather" means.

Originally posted by batdude123
Yes, in quanlogic, that's exactly what "weather" means.
Sunny weather?

Originally posted by Nihilist
Sunny weather?

Or rainy!

Originally posted by Nihilist
Horseshit, pak made so many inconsistent statements his words mean nothing.The only restraining WB Hulk did was not moving so he didnt do anymore damage.

Answer this simple question, Hulk thought Miek killed rick, so seeing his best pal almost dying wouldnt make Hulk pissed and would hold back then?

Hulk said it as he pushed Juggs and let his momentum do the rest. 😂 easily distracted..Xavier screamed at him to stop fighting as it was wrecking the foundations.

If by wheather you mean on his knees screaming in agony with holes been punched through him and not getting in a single offensive blow then allowing him a break to recover.

Taking a godblast for one is above anything WWH took, also being burned to just a skeleton in oblivion(or entropy) and survivng

When did he make inconsistent statements? WW Hulk attacked various charac6ters yet we find out he held back just like he did as WB. It's consistent.

Yes, letting someone else's actions affect his focus is being easily distracted.

WW Hulk was fine and prevailed. Zom was broken and very quickly I might add.

I agree WW Hulk probably couldn't tank a godblast but I never said his durability was greater than Juggs. I said when has Juggs ever prevailed and Thor beat him.

Originally posted by batdude123
Yes, in quanlogic, that's exactly what "weather" means.
You need to reread the issue

Quan stole that 1 yr old shit from peterlane over on Herochat