World War Hulk vs Juggernut

Originally posted by OneDumbG0
^ If you're moving forward and you get blasted and are slowed down and eventually being pushed backwards... at some point your forward movement stopped and your backward movement began.

This isn't difficult. 😬

^ You can't be moving forward, then be forced backwards without your forward movement coming to a halt. This is just common sense.

Take a baseball for instance. Pitcher pitches it and the batter hits it back. At the moment of impact, the baseball's forward movement completely halted. I'm not trying to be patronizing, but you're confused OR you're purposefully trying to confuse us on a very basic concept here.

Originally posted by quanchi112
His momentum was redirected but he never came to a complete stop. War's stop was far more impressive than Thor's blast.

You're wrong. You can't redirect something in the opposite direction without it coming to a stop first.

Originally posted by quanchi112
He never completely stopped.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Yes, he was trying to hurt him not kill him. It's all irrelevant to wb because this happened before he became angry enough to become the wb so I guess there goes your downplaying of wb.

Strange paused and he Hulk kicked his ass. That's what happened. Zom wasn't man enough for the Hulk.

A lot of characters are too quick for the Hulk initially, Wolverine for example. Sooner or later Hulk gets in close and beats down his opponents.

Hulk took on much more power from the Sentry so I fail to see your point. Hulk was hurt but no where near as pressed as he had been against the more powerful Sentry.

Hulk was annoyed but he wasn't angry by any means and the writer said Hulk purposely didn't kill anyone. Lucky Juggernaut.

You need to give up this Hulk hating. It doesn't do you any good.

Originally posted by OneDumbG0
^ You can't be moving forward, then be forced backwards without your forward movement coming to a halt. This is just common sense.

Take a baseball for instance. Pitcher pitches it and the batter hits it back. At the moment of impact, the baseball's forward movement completely halted. I'm not trying to be patronizing, but you're confused OR you're purposefully trying to confuse us on a very basic concept here.

Originally posted by Ptr_Grifin
You're wrong. You can't redirect something in the opposite direction without it coming to a stop first.

Originally posted by Galan007

It doesn't matter if it is comic book physics or not. Something like that should be understood and should be common sense. You're making it something that it is not. Actually changing it so that you like it versus what the story is trying to do.

Originally posted by Nihilist
So if he hadnt been stopped he would of killed him, my point is proven.
Ah the old fall be back on World Breaker Hulk bullshit( a common trait of Hulk fans when they cant answer something), we are talking about WORLD WAR HULK not WORLD BREAKER so you trying to make any connection is pointless

He stopped and let the Hulk regain himself clearly shown on panel and stopped using the Zom power and didnt defend himself when Hulk pounded him( but i suppose this is another time when you will ramble on ignoring everything because it hurts your argument)

Wolverine only scratches/cuts Hulk, Zom punched holes through him, big difference to come back from without pis/cis, and what are you basing "Sooner or later Hulk gets in close and beats down his opponents" because in his fight with Zom he did get in close and was getting destroyed worse the longer the fight went on.

Show me any damage Sentry did that was anything like what Zom did to Hulk( ie..on the floor, in agony,crying with his spine blown out)

The writer of the Xmen mini made no such comment about Hulk not wanting to kill Juggenaut and LMFAO at you seriously saying Hulk wasnt angry against Juggernaut, ignorance is not a excuse.

And you need to stop sucking Hulk dick as it makes you baised to the extent of trolling...oh wait you do that in every thread.

I have seen you mock wb before and I am prety sure you tried downplaying him by saying he couldn't kill miek but he wasn't in wb hulk yet so you have nothing.

Hulk took his licks and was fine while strange wasn't. Strange struggled to even control himself so saying ww hulk got lucky when strange was out of his mind is baseless.

Wolverine blinded him. WW Hulk got wolverine and crushed him. WW Hulk got inside of zom and eventually beat him down just like he usually prevails. It proves my point.

Sentry burned him out. Zom didn't burn him out by any means.

So iyo the entire arc was all a lie and ww hulk really wanted to kill the juggernaut?

Because I side with hulk in certain threads that doesn't denote me sucking his schlong it just shows I give him the respect I feel he deserves. You are all riled up over disagreeing about the hulk yet again.

Originally posted by Ptr_Grifin
It doesn't matter if it is comic book physics or not. Something like that should be understood and should be common sense. You're making it something that it is not. Actually changing it so that you like it versus what the story is trying to do.

Originally posted by quanchi112
I looked again and it was different than I remember. Thor did stop his momentum. This actually hurts the juggs case so thanks.

Not really. It just shows that stopping Juggernaut does not mean you can actually harm him. So War wasn't going to be able to do what he said. Also, if War didn't trip him up and throw him, chances are Juggernaut would have started to regain his momentum like he would have if the ground didn't break during Thor's attack.

Thor's Godblast >>> Than War just stopping him.

Originally posted by Ptr_Grifin
Not really. It just shows that stopping Juggernaut does not mean you can actually harm him. So War wasn't going to be able to do what he said. Also, if War didn't trip him up and throw him, chances are Juggernaut would have started to regain his momentum like he would have if the ground didn't break during Thor's attack.

Thor's Godblast >>> Than War just stopping him.

Both showed they are more than enough for juggs. I can agree to that.

So you agree, that if Thor's Godblast was "half-assed" it was still more powerful than what War could put out?

Besides that, Juggernaut was still unharmed by both of their power.

Originally posted by Ptr_Grifin
So you agree, that if Thor's Godblast was "half-assed" it was still more powerful than what War could put out?

Besides that, Juggernaut was still unharmed by both of their power.

Well there's a big difference in what Thor did and what War did.

War only stopped Juggernaut, that was the most he could do in that department.

Thor not only stopped him, but instantly forced him backward. That trumps what War was only able to do.

So therefore the "half-assed" Godblast's power output is >>> than War's.
So if the Goblast, which was a better feat than War's, didn't put a scratch on him, War isn't going to do any better.

Originally posted by Ptr_Grifin
Well there's a big difference in what Thor did and what War did.

War only stopped Juggernaut, that was the most he could do in that department.

Thor not only stopped him, but instantly forced him backward. That trumps what War was only able to do.

So therefore the "half-assed" Godblast's power output is >>> than War's.
So if the Goblast, which was a better feat than War's, didn't put a scratch on him, War isn't going to do any better.

Thor was also at a safe distance I see someone after being pushed back and stop him cold like that physically as more impressive.

Both can overcome juggs' enchantments which only hurts him not any hulk.

Originally posted by quanchi112
[B]He was hurting him not trying to kill him. There's nothing that leads me to believe he wanted to murder him. Hulk doesn't roll like that.

I have seen you mock wb before and I am prety sure you tried downplaying him by saying he couldn't kill miek but he wasn't in wb hulk yet so you have nothing.

Hulk took his licks and was fine while strange wasn't. Strange struggled to even control himself so saying ww hulk got lucky when strange was out of his mind is baseless.

Wolverine blinded him. WW Hulk got wolverine and crushed him. WW Hulk got inside of zom and eventually beat him down just like he usually prevails. It proves my point.

Sentry burned him out. Zom didn't burn him out by any means.

Hulk wasnt fully burned out, you could still see the gamma radiating in his eyes as he had "powered down", which is confirmed by the close up of his eyes then him going WB releasing shit loads of gamma.

So iyo the entire arc was all a lie and ww hulk really wanted to kill the juggernaut?

So you think Hulk didnt want to hurt Juggernaut at all then, that he held back despite(your own words) Hulks intelligence knowing how hard it is to phsically hurt the Juggernaut he went into the fight half hearted.

Because I side with hulk in certain threads that doesn't denote me sucking his schlong it just shows I give him the respect I feel he deserves. You are all riled up over disagreeing about the hulk yet again.

I get all "riled up" as you put it, over the same old bullshit arguments about WWH being so bad ass, yet he never had a clean win over anyone above Thing/Ares lvl.

Learn to use the quote function correctly, its not hard.

He wasn't scared. He had a WTF look on his face. After War tossed him, Juggs knocked his ass through a parking lot of cars, then War pushed him over. Not much of a fight.

War also, did not use just physical strength to stop him. The energy of the celestial is what allowed him to halt Juggernaut's advance and negate his unstoppability.

Both can ONLY halt his unstoppable enchantment.

Originally posted by Nihilist
Simple question for you, if Hulk hadnt been stopped by the Warbound and carried on stomping whilst he was on the floor would Miek have survived?

And i have seen you mock WB Hulk in various threads(saying he got pwnd by a satellite) so dont give me your hypercritical bullshit, i have never said WB Hulk was the one stomping on Miek and couldnt kill him, so stop lying because youre getting desperate.

facepalm Hulk was only fine after he got time to heal..fact, did Hulk give Strange time to regain himself..no so youre point is pathetic.

You have proven nothing unless you think cutting Hulks eyes>>>>>>>>>punching his spine out and blwing holes through his body

So you have nothing to show then, thought as much.
😂 burning him out means jack shit, we are talking about the damage that was inflicted on Hulk.

Hulk wasnt fully burned out, you could still see the gamma radiating in his eyes as he had "powered down", which is confirmed by the close up of his eyes then him going WB releasing shit loads of gamma.

We are talking about the Xmen mini not the Pak wankfest on the main WWH arc.

So you think Hulk didnt want to hurt Juggernaut at all then, that he held back despite(your own words) Hulks intelligence knowing how hard it is to phsically hurt the Juggernaut he went into the fight half hearted.

Because i dont side with the Hulk because i dont feel he deserves the respect he gets due to everything he did gets blown way out of proportian and all the plot devices and pis/cis gets ignored.

I get all "riled up" as you put it, over the same old bullshit arguments about WWH being so bad ass, yet he never had a clean win over anyone above Thing/Ares lvl.

Learn to use the quote function correctly, its not hard.

So you admit I don't wank hulk. Good. Just because I argue for a character once in while doesn't mean I argue for him in every thread.

Hulk was in no danger at all. He's the hulk and fought someone far more powerful in the Sentry not too long after.

Look at Hulk's face when Sentry is blasting him he looks far worse against the Sentry than against Zom. Also burning someone out means he was momentarily taxed by the Sentry meaning his powers surpassed zom's.

I think hulk wanted to defeat juggs and hurt him yes, kill him no.

A clean win? He smacked around entire teams and took on every comer and prevailed save the Sentry.

Originally posted by quanchi112
[B]Yes, I think the Hulk would have regained control of himself.

So you admit I don't wank hulk. Good. Just because I argue for a character once in while doesn't mean I argue for him in every thread.

Hulk was in no danger at all. He's the hulk and fought someone far more powerful in the Sentry not too long after.

Look at Hulk's face when Sentry is blasting him he looks far worse against the Sentry than against Zom. Also burning someone out means he was momentarily taxed by the Sentry meaning his powers surpassed zom's.

I think hulk wanted to defeat juggs and hurt him yes, kill him no.

A clean win? He smacked around entire teams and took on every comer and prevailed save the Sentry.

He needed the spin tech to have been tampered with so Iron Man didnt stop him.

Reed to job to him and totally forget everthing he knows about the Hulk and come up with some half assed plan ,when he stopps cosmic guys on a regular and has tech lying around that can destroy Celestials and other stuff that can erase time and space.

Strange sparing his life and the been tricked getting his hands crushed supposedly depowering him, which is bullshit as he has cast spells in the past with broken hands.

Zomstrange stopping destroying because he gives a shit about others.

Warbound having to sheild him from the adamantium barrange so he didnt die.

Juggernaut only getting bfr'd due to being distracted.

Warbound having to help with when he was in Sentrys energy beam.

Hulk not putting down Sentry despit having 7 free shots( 4 before Sentry unleashed his energy, 3 after it)

Those ar just a few that come to mind invloving plot device, pis/cis.

Originally posted by Ptr_Grifin
Well there's a big difference in what Thor did and what War did.

War only stopped Juggernaut, that was the most he could do in that department.