Pokeverse v.s. FFverse

Originally posted by MooCowofJustice
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2. They make Molly older, taller, and let her, Misty, and Ash breathe when they fill the room with water. Also manipulating physics by letting them move in it normally.

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So you just set one dimension within the limits of another one. But Palkia, the controller of Space cannot simply cut off an area surrounding where it is? And Dialga can't just time travel with other Pokemon and stop it from even happening?

Ultimecia gets beaten by the FF8 Party. There are easily enough trainers with Pokemon / groups of strongly bonded Pokemon to match the FF8 party.

Also, Sin could die right away, theoretically, if four Ghost Pokemon use Curse on him.

2. Alright, I shall accept they can affect others. But to what extent? Not that this matters, they still die when Omega wipes out the planet. 😐

3. Kinda, Exdeath with limited control was able to erase continents with the Void. Palkia is the controller of the space he rules/embodies, the Void is not under his jurisdiction. Neo Exdeath and Cloud of Darkness embody their respective Voids, they hold the ability to utterly erase the universe, can Palkia stop that? As for Dialga, according to Exdeath time is but a part of the Void. And Ultimecia kinda stops that.

Lol prove it. Show me the trainers who will be able to resist Time Compression with their Pokemon. All you really know you have are possibly the stars of each respective game. The rest are devoured right away.

Nah. Not that it matters, Omega>>>Sin.

Originally posted by The Scenario
Yeah, but the entire pokeverse runs on nothing but friendship.

The protagonists sure, everyone else? Cannot prove it.

Now that I think about it FFVIII's "friendship feats" are far above that of anyone in Pokeverse I know of.

Show me a Pokefag who resisted universal compression of time and absorbtion of reality with nothing but the bonds of friendship plz.

I think the Void can more than compensate for that. Along with that seeing as how the FF8 party is the only thing in the big place that is the universe that somehow managed to not get absorbed by Ultimecia. I'm still kind of stoped how their friendship was able to withstand Time Compression despite all the loving bonds that could exist within it.

Kuja could go super-trance and blow up the planet that the Pokemon are on.

Originally posted by NemeBro
1. No, seriously, shut up.

2. Alright, I shall accept they can affect others. But to what extent? Not that this matters, they still die when Omega wipes out the planet. 😐

3. Kinda, Exdeath with limited control was able to erase continents with the Void. Palkia is the controller of the space he rules/embodies, the Void is not under his jurisdiction. Neo Exdeath and Cloud of Darkness embody their respective Voids, they hold the ability to utterly erase the universe, can Palkia stop that? As for Dialga, according to Exdeath time is but a part of the Void. And Ultimecia kinda stops that.

Lol prove it. Show me the trainers who will be able to resist Time Compression with their Pokemon. All you really know you have are possibly the stars of each respective game. The rest are devoured right away.

Nah. Not that it matters, Omega>>>Sin.

1. No, seriously, U.

2. So was Exdeath never born? Maybe they can make him a baby. And yes, I understand that Palkia is only the controller of the space he embodies and the Void is not his to control. But the space around the Void can be controlled.

In addition to the stars of each game: Ash, Cynthia, Professor Oak, Every member of every Elite Four, All the gym leaders except maybe Giovanni, most of the people Ash meets, and include all the Wild Pokemon that have it. I believe Mewtwo has a strong bond with Mew and his clones now. We also have Mesprit, the being of Emotion (I think). Whichever one is Memory can also erase the grudges of the Pokemon with enemies. Add in Azelf for some Willpower.

Originally posted by MooCowofJustice
1. No, seriously, U.

2. So was Exdeath never born? Maybe they can make him a baby. And yes, I understand that Palkia is only the controller of the space he embodies and the Void is not his to control. But the space around the Void can be controlled.

In addition to the stars of each game: Ash, Cynthia, Professor Oak, Every member of every Elite Four, All the gym leaders except maybe Giovanni, most of the people Ash meets, and include all the Wild Pokemon that have it. I believe Mewtwo has a strong bond with Mew and his clones now. We also have Mesprit, the being of Emotion (I think). Whichever one is Memory can also erase the grudges of the Pokemon with enemies. Add in Azelf for some Willpower.

Show me their feats that rival the friendship feats of the FFVIII losers please. 🙂

Originally posted by The Scenario
Yeah, but the entire pokeverse runs on nothing but friendship.

Originally posted by NemeBro
2. I assume he was born. Make him a baby? Ultimecia prevents that my good sir. How can you use space to contain that which devours space?

Show me their feats that rival the friendship feats of the FFVIII losers please. 🙂

The Unown have shown an ability to control age, so maybe they make him young or incredibly old, or take away his lungs, if he has any. Don't really know much about Exdeath.

By severing the space it rests in from the rest of the space it seeks to devour. The ultimate BFR. Giritina could also throw it into the Reverse World where Space and Time are unstable anyway.

What feats do the FFFags even have for friendship?

Originally posted by MooCowofJustice
The Unown have shown an ability to control age, so maybe they make him young or incredibly old, or take away his lungs, if he has any. Don't really know much about Exdeath.

By severing the space it rests in from the rest of the space it seeks to devour. The ultimate BFR. Giritina could also throw it into the Reverse World where Space and Time are unstable anyway.

What feats do the FFFags even have for friendship?

2. Void has already shown to be able to traverse dimensions. "space," so... No. 😐 Void would erase the Reverse world just as easily.

3. Well gee, I don't know, other than being able to resist time being compressed to a single point and resisting the utter absorption of the universe based upon and only upon their friendship maybe?

Originally posted by NemeBro
1. First of all, it only worked on some kids, can it work on an incredibly powerful sorcerer? Second of all, he is immortal, he is like, thousands of years old I think, could they even affect his age in such a way? As for lungs... He's a tree. 😐

2. Void has already shown to be able to traverse dimensions. "space," so... No. 😐 Void would erase the Reverse world just as easily.

3. Well gee, I don't know, other than being able to resist time being compressed to a single point and resisting the utter absorption of the universe based upon and only upon their friendship maybe?

1. I wouldn't know why being a sorceror would give immunity to reality warping. Okay, and okay. So they, like...interrupt his photosynthesis?

2. Anyone can travel across space, but where there is no space? Technically he would still be in the same dimension, but the space he was severed from is elsewhere.

3. You can't use that as a means to show how good it is as a feat. They happen to be the only people who have ever tried it, so that doesn't mean their friendship is incredibly strong.

Originally posted by MooCowofJustice
1. I wouldn't know why being a sorceror would give immunity to reality warping. Okay, and okay. So they, like...interrupt his photosynthesis?

2. Anyone can travel across space, but where there is no space? Technically he would still be in the same dimension, but the space he was severed from is elsewhere.

3. You can't use that as a means to show how good it is as a feat. They happen to be the only people who have ever tried it, so that doesn't mean their friendship is incredibly strong.

2. No, if the space surrounding that area is severed, that would make the area a pocket dimension. The Void does not travel across space, that is what rockets do. 😐 It goes from its own dimension to another.

3. It is not like the FFVIIIverse is some giant verse full of dicks with no friends or loved ones. Married couples, mothers and children, comrades, all fell to Time Compression. Only the FFVIII team were immune, because their friendship was that ****ing amazing.

Originally posted by Heythere,Honey
Powkeymawnz can disable Fogga. How many ppl know how to use the spell in the game? Haven't played XIII yet.

3 characters(Lightning, Sazh, and Vanille) plus bosses, enemies, Orphan, Fal'Cie, l'Cie, Ceith, etc.

Disable will take to long to hit everyone of them. Fogga is an AoE ability and will work a lot faster. Once they get hit with it, all of their abilities magic related wouldn't work untill Fogga wore off.

Even if they did succeed in disabling every character from 13 that could use Fogga, they could use their technique dispellga to cancel disable after it took effect, allowing them to cast fogga again, or they could use Stopga to keep disable from working before it can take effect.

Exclusive Command Abilities
Name ↓ Effect ↓ Character ↓ Paradigm ↓

Army of One Non-Elemental combo Physical Attack. Conditionally affects Chain efficiency. Lightning Ravager

Cold Blood Non-Elemental combo Physical Attack. Conditionally affects Chain efficiency. Sazh Ravager

Sovereign Fist A powerful attack resetting the foe's Break and Chain. Snow Commando

Death Instantly kills an opponent. Should this fail, the opponent will take large amounts of magical damage. Vanille Saboteur

Last Resort Large area non-Elemental Magical multi-attack. Conditionally affects Chain efficiency. Hope Ravager

Highwind A powerful attack resetting the foe's Break and Chain. Fang Commando

More special abilities the ff13 party could use to take out stronger Pokemon while they are helpless from Painga and Fogga

Fang's Highwind has a very impressive feat at the end of the game where she uses it to take out everyone else in your party in one blow. This is after they became strong enough to take down the Fal'Cie Barthandelus.

That's just one of them, these are all of the known Fal'Cie.
* Orphan: The fal'Cie responsible for powering Cocoon over the world of Gran Pulse, the structure dependent on its life. Orphan represents the power of sunlight.
* Eden: The trinity fal'Cie responsible for all functions of Cocoon, and communicates with the human Sanctum representative. Cocoon's capital is named after this fal'Cie.
* Phoenix: The fal'Cie in charge of Cocoon's weather, shining like a sun in the middle of Cocoon. It oversees numerous fal'Cie managing wind and rain.
* Carbuncle: Responsible for the production of food in Cocoon.
* Kujata: Provides Cocoon with power. Located at Euride Gorge, which is visited as a tourist attraction. This fal'Cie turned Dajh Katzroy into a l'Cie.
* Barthandelus: A fal'Cie assuming the guise of the human Galenth Dysley as the Primarch of Cocoon. It seeks to bring back the gods through the destruction of Cocoon. As the Cocoon fal'Cie can not directly attack Orphan due to their own Focus as Cocoon's caretakers, Barthandelus instead guides and manipulates the Pulse l'Cie to act in their stead by causing one of them to become Ragnarok.

Pulse fal'Cie

* Anima: Originally located in Oerba. This fal'Cie turned Serah, Lightning, Vanille, Fang, Snow, Hope, and Sazh into l'Cie.
* Atomos: A spherical Fal'Cie who digs underground passages in Mah'habara.
* Bismarck: Responsible for protecting the Sulyya Springs. Anyone who tries to trespass into the waters is mercilessly eliminated.
* Titan: Forces an artificial selection process to produce more powerful species on Pulse.
* Dahaka: The boss at Taejin's Tower. Its purpose is unclear, as unlike other fal'Cie, it seems to roam about Gran Pulse without a task.

Fal'Cie are beasts too, they are basically the gods on Cacoon and Gran Pulse....well, except for the Maker. They could turn the Pokemon into l'Cie and give them a focus to kill other Pokemon. If they do it, they turn to crystals, and if they don't they turn into Cieth. Then they would be on the FF verse's side.

Ragnarok is even stronger than the Fal'Cie, it is able to kill the strongest one, Orphan, by itself, and has a feat at the very end of the game that makes it physically stronger than any Pokemon.

I'm trying not to ruin to much of the ending for you, but it's hard to debate w/o at least revealing some information. You can watch the ending to see these feats if you want to know what happens before you play it.

Lightning has a feat in the beginning of the game where she can snap her fingers and have electricity going through every part of her body.... sword too. That would help her easily kill off any water type( except mixed kinds like Quagsire)

Snow has a feat where one of his punches caused ice to come out of effing nowhere... kinda like death spikes, they just shot out everywhere around the area he hit... Dragon pokemon would get owned by Snow.

Fogga doesn't work, Pokemon don't use magic.

I still think Jirachi can solo this thread if they wished fast enough.

I doubt anything in FF can beat this

Missingno > Final Fantasy

Originally posted by FinalAnswer
I doubt anything in FF can beat this

Missingno > Final Fantasy

Your mom

EDIT: Googled it. Glitch from Red/Blue FTW

Originally posted by Heythere,Honey
I still think Jirachi can solo this thread if they wished fast enough.

Originally posted by The Scenario
Safeguard, Heal Bell, Haze.

Originally posted by The Scenario
Curse isn't a status effect. It causes the opponent to lose 1/4 of their HP every turn. 4 turns kills him.

That's no different from casting Zombie attack and Regen. It's not doing a damn thing against Sin. Plus there's Bio, Gravity, and Stone Breath. Those things are useless against Sin.

Mewtwo uses Me First, Power Swap, Guard Swap.

By the time Mewtwo uses Me First, he would be thrown into the Void, absorbed, or blown to bits. If Mewtwo used the Void, it would consume him.

Power Swap and Guard Swap wouldn't work on the higher tier Pokemon and it won't do anything to the FF high tiers. They're virtually useless especially Ultimecia is absorbing everything.

No, they just keep their original level. The transform moves keeps stats intact. Only difference would be HP.

It's common fact that Ditto transformations are inferior to the originals. That's why no one uses Ditto (even with Metal Powder).

Doubt it. Plenty could counter it.

They would be distracted and dead. Wobuffet would get killed by Odin, Raiden, Yojimbo, Sin, Time Compression, or erased in the Void. Gameplay-wise, Counter/Mirrorcoat Pokemon would be killed before they reflected the power. Anime-wise, none of those Pokemon would survive Mewtwo or any legendary. Besides, Kuja only recieved a scratch from a Mega Flare. Being hit with a beam, that doubled in power, won't do much.

Celebi pulls backup from an alternate timeline. Friendship stops Ultemecia.

Celebi would be a goner before that happens. Either absorbed or killed by Chaos Garland or Marilith.

Giratina says hi.

Giratina was captured by a human. Exdeath, Sin, The Undying, Cloud of Darkness, and just about every villain in their final form destroys the Pokemon.