Ryu Hayabusa and Bayonetta vs Samus and Dante DMC4

Originally posted by The Scenario
Which tells me that the Chozo Ghost version is superior, as they are immune to inanimate objects. Hunter Ing and Dark Pirate Commandos phase out of local timespace (also phasing through objects) and Samus can still hit them.

That's because they reappear. Samus would shoot air if she tried to fight Bayonetta.

Dark Visor allows Samus to see and shoot through dimensions. Bayonetta cannot hide.

It won't matter if she's Bayonetta. She's not touching her.

She cast a spell to ride a vehicle? Doesn't matter, that proves Bayonetta is still a threat while intangible.

Yeah, she's a threat even in her intangibility. That's why she would own Samus.

Speed Booster moves faster than sound. Assuming "unlimited" means what I think it does, Samus could be moving in Speed Booster at all times.

Faster than sound is nothing when the Lumen Sages could go at light speed.

I doubt it will really help her that much. Wavebuster, for example.

She activates Witch Time and the beam is not going to hit her.

Originally posted by Cyner
Annihilator Beam tracks, and Sonic Boom just has to kinda hit in the general area.

Witch Time and the beams will move in slow motion. I forgot what the Sonic Boom does.

Also even if Bayonetta were to throw a skyscraper, and somehow manage to hit Samus with it. The damage would be negligible. As in none.
For example: in the manga Ridley busts a mountain, and soon afterward shoots Samus with the same attack, while in her varia suit it did no damage at all, not even cosmetic, she then proceeds to rape him. the gravity suit reduces damage by 50% after that, and the Omega Fusion suit by 98% after that. Bayonetta will do precisely no damage. Ever.

Bayonetta could just send Samus flying off the planet. Shuraba will suck her soul. The Scarbarough Fair enhances with magic. Onyx Roses shoot bullets containing curses of faeries. Odette will freeze Samus with cold of the 9th circle of Hell.

Bayonetta can instantly summon Madama Butterfly and hurl giant punches at Samus. Hekatoncheir can pulverize mountains and cause days-long earthquakes. Queen Sheba can bust planets and send a half-powered goddess to the sun.

Bayonetta stomps.

You're still thinking Bayonetta can hurt Samus. Even assuming Samus can't harm her, Samus will be fine.

Originally posted by Sin_Volvagia
That's because they reappear. Samus would shoot air if she tried to fight Bayonetta.

It won't matter if she's Bayonetta. She's not touching her.

Yeah, she's a threat even in her intangibility. That's why she would own Samus.

Faster than sound is nothing when the Lumen Sages could go at light speed.

She activates Witch Time and the beam is not going to hit her.

Witch Time and the beams will move in slow motion. I forgot what the Sonic Boom does.

Bayonetta could just send Samus flying off the planet. Shuraba will suck her soul. The Scarbarough Fair enhances with magic. Onyx Roses shoot bullets containing curses of faeries. Odette will freeze Samus with cold of the 9th circle of Hell.

Bayonetta can instantly summon Madama Butterfly and hurl giant punches at Samus. Hekatoncheir can pulverize mountains and cause days-long earthquakes. Queen Sheba can bust planets and send a half-powered goddess to the sun.

Bayonetta stomps.

Since when were summons allowed in vs match?

Well whatever, lol@soulsucking. Gorea who was soul raping 4 planets worth of people at once, and whom when confronted by the other 6 hunters just absorbed their souls and powers, could not do the same to Samus. I'm gonna look up that "planet busting" thing when I get home and it better not be some Final Fantasy style exaggeration BS.

Originally posted by Cyner
Since when were summons allowed in vs match?

Well whatever, lol@soulsucking. Gorea who was soul raping 4 planets worth of people at once, and whom when confronted by the other 6 hunters just absorbed their souls and powers, could not do the same to Samus. I'm gonna look up that "planet busting" thing when I get home and it better not be some Final Fantasy style exaggeration BS.

The summons are really her hair. It's not the same as FF summons, at least not Madama Butterfly.

And I never played Hunters, so Gorea is unfamiliar to me. The wiki doesn't mention soul-stealing.

Originally posted by Sin_Volvagia
[B]That's because they reappear. Samus would shoot air if she tried to fight Bayonetta.

Samus can shoot them before they reappear. Samus can and will shoot Bayonetta.

Faster than sound is nothing when the Lumen Sages could go at light speed.

And Bayonetta couldn't do anything while Balder did.

She activates Witch Time and the beam is not going to hit her.

Wavebuster isn't exactly a beam.

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Witch Time and the beams will move in slow motion. I forgot what the Sonic Boom does.

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Or Samus can use the Imperialist.

Bayonetta could just send Samus flying off the planet. Shuraba will suck her soul. The Scarbarough Fair enhances with magic. Onyx Roses shoot bullets containing curses of faeries. Odette will freeze Samus with cold of the 9th circle of Hell.

Bayonetta can instantly summon Madama Butterfly and hurl giant punches at Samus. Hekatoncheir can pulverize mountains and cause days-long earthquakes. Queen Sheba can bust planets and send a half-powered goddess to the sun.

Summons. They are Infernal Demons that need to make deals to be summoned. Her hair is just a medium for manifesting. Further, Samus can fly, so I doubt BFR will work well, Samus has proven resistant to magical and soul attack, and she's taken Absolute Zero cold. She's been unharmed by attacks that break mountains before.

Bayonetta stomps.

I doubt this. Dante is there, too, and I'm not sure about Ryu.

And I never played Hunters, so Gorea is unfamiliar to me. The wiki doesn't mention soul-stealing.

http://metroid.wikia.com/wiki/Alimbic_Lore

Alimbic War, Alimbic Pride, and Gorea are the ones that detail him them most.

Originally posted by The Scenario
Samus can shoot them before they reappear. Samus can and will shoot Bayonetta.

Bayonetta is invisible and intangible to those in the human realm throughout most of the game. Samus is only going to hit the air. She can't even touch intangible objects in Aether without going to Dark Aether. Bayonetta's intangibility is pretty much the same as that.

And Bayonetta couldn't do anything while Balder did.

Bayonetta has Witch Time. That's how she was able to fight evenly with Balder.

Wavebuster isn't exactly a beam.

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That's a beam.

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Oh that. I guess that's the only thing hitting Bayonetta.

Or Samus can use the Imperialist.

That's not gonna do much when she can dodge bullets at point-blank range.

Summons. They are Infernal Demons that need to make deals to be summoned. Her hair is just a medium for manifesting. Further, Samus can fly, so I doubt BFR will work well, Samus has proven resistant to magical and soul attack, and she's taken Absolute Zero cold. She's been unharmed by attacks that break mountains before.

Bayonetta will just have to take her suit off then.

I doubt this. Dante is there, too, and I'm not sure about Ryu.

Dante will be dead. Ryu would get killed by either him or Samus

http://metroid.wikia.com/wiki/Alimbic_Lore

Alimbic War, Alimbic Pride, and Gorea are the ones that detail him them most.

Life energy don't = souls

Samus never dealt with soul attacks.

bayonetta solos

well to be fair dante can slow time to, if that helps. he's already tremendously fast, and can slow time by a lot.

Originally posted by Sin_Volvagia
Bayonetta is invisible and intangible to those in the human realm throughout most of the game. Samus is only going to hit the air. She can't even touch intangible objects in Aether without going to Dark Aether. Bayonetta's intangibility is pretty much the same as that.

That makes it the same as the Dark Pirate Commando. Dark Visor lets Samus see and shoot Bayonetta.

Bayonetta has Witch Time. That's how she was able to fight evenly with Balder.

She only used Witch Time at the end of the fight. When Balder used his, he stopped her in her tracks.

That's a beam.

That's not a beam.

Oh that. I guess that's the only thing hitting Bayonetta.

No, quite a few other things can.

That's not gonna do much when she can dodge bullets at point-blank range.

Imperialist = quantum laser = lightspeed

Bayonetta will just have to take her suit off then.

Impossible.

Dante will be dead. Ryu would get killed by either him or Samus

Agree about Ryu, but don't know enough about Dante to say. Pretty sure he has quicksilver and some kind of dimensional attack.

Life energy don't = souls

Samus never dealt with soul attacks.

What about spirits and essence? All three are mentioned.

Originally posted by Ms.Marvel
bayonetta solos

Seriously, this.

And this coming from a Samus fanboy.

Originally posted by Keollyn
Seriously, this.

And this coming from a Samus fanboy.

There's not much to argue when one is up against someone that can punch a giant across the solar system.

Originally posted by Keollyn
There's not much to argue when one is up against someone that can punch a giant across the solar system.

it doesnt nullify it unless the object being punched moved at a slow speed. the amount of force needed to launch an object across a solar system at a speed that would enable it to clear such a distance in less than a year would be... extraordinary.

Space is a funny place, the only force that would really be required is just innitially putting somethign in motion, after that things tend to pick up momentum on their own. Meteorites and comets don't have rockets attatched to them. Just passing by a planet will increase the speed of an object in space, but eh.

Still not a physical attack.

planets can slow down an object as well. so no. and thats not a logical basis to use in an argument want to downplay a feat... though it would hardly matter. to go from one side of the solar system to the other in less than a day would require the object to be moving at the speed of light. no amount of planets and gravity can increase the momentum of an object to that speed.

That much is true, but see point 2. Not a physical attack. Space rocks typicly top out at 16 000 meters per second.

what difference does it make if its a physical attack or not? theres nothing in the op that states that bayonetta is limited to physical attacks.

The fact it's not a physical attack means there's no physical force.

Originally posted by The Scenario
That makes it the same as the Dark Pirate Commando. Dark Visor lets Samus see and shoot Bayonetta.

No, that makes it the same as those pods that held the Sky Temple keys. Samus had to go to Dark Aether to even destroy those things. She's not hitting Bayonetta unless she hits her with objects in the environment or if the Sonic Boom can affect her.

She only used Witch Time at the end of the fight. When Balder used his, he stopped her in her tracks.

Bayonetta used witch time when she escaped the satellite laser. When has Balder used Witch Time? He's a Lumen Sage.

That's not a beam.

Yes it is

No, quite a few other things can.

Like what?

Imperialist = quantum laser = lightspeed

Bayonetta can still dodge before it's fired. Also Witch Time makes it slower.

Agree about Ryu, but don't know enough about Dante to say. Pretty sure he has quicksilver and some kind of dimensional attack.

He has Quicksilver or Chronos Heart to keep up with her but he has no dimensional attack unless Pandora has one or Jackpot! can do that.

What about spirits and essence? All three are mentioned.

They mention spirits but nowhere is stated that he drains them. The lores do describe corpses appearing like their spirits have been sucked dry but that's proof enough that Gorea sucks souls.

Originally posted by ScreamPaste
Two things.
1. That wasn't a physical attack.

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