Imperiex Prime and Fully Powered Tyrant Vs. Heralds, Gods and Dark Phoenix

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Did someone say Full-Powered Tyrant was equal to a staving Galactus... WTF?

Originally posted by KuRuPT Thanosi
Did someone say Full-Powered Tyrant was equal to a staving Galactus... WTF?

"at least" on starving galactus level, so based on their fight, I say tyrant is at least above 30% galactus, closer to 50% maybe?

Originally posted by TheTyrant
And I liked the time Captain America beat the shit out of Living Tribunal.

Edit: In case you didn't get my point; Dark Phoenix has never fought Galactus. You made that up as I just made up the non-existent fight between the Living Tribunal and Captain America in which Cap gave LT the beating of his life.

You haven't seen the scan where DP has galactus beaten and almost dying on the sun?

Originally posted by Black bolt z
You haven't seen the scan where DP has galactus beaten
I thought that was rachel grey

Originally posted by Black bolt z
You haven't seen the scan where DP has galactus beaten and almost dying on the sun?

That's not Dark Phoenix. That's the entire Phoenix Force. And there was no sun during that fight either, so I don't know what the hell you're talking about. You probably made that up too.

Originally posted by MrMind
"at least" on starving galactus level, so based on their fight, I say tyrant is at least above 30% galactus, closer to 50% maybe?

Well if a Full-Powered Tyrant fought with Galactus for thousands of years until Galactus finally won.... and Dp Tyrant.. fought a well-fed Galactus and had him beat... What would that number look like? I have no clue.. but know.. even DP Tyrant is beyond a 50% Galactus let alone a full powered one.

Originally posted by TheTyrant
That's not Dark Phoenix. That's the entire Phoenix Force. And there was no sun during that fight either, so I don't know what the hell you're talking about. You probably made that up too.
Every time someone has posted that scan they have said that was Dark phoenix.

Originally posted by Black bolt z
Every time someone has posted that scan they have said that was Dark phoenix.

It wasn't, it was Rachel Grey and she's noob trash.

Compare her fight with Galactus (even if she was controlled by the PF) vs her fight with Necrom.

Necrom with only a sliver of the PF destroyed an entire solar system effortlessly.

DP got nothing on imperiex prime, one consume star, the other consume universe. this fight seems pretty clear up to me

Originally posted by MrMind
DP got nothing on imperiex prime, one consume star, the other consume universe. this fight seems pretty clear up to me

You're comparing feats bu DP from the 70s vs Imperiex from the late 90s?

How is that fair?

Originally posted by Black bolt z
Every time someone has posted that scan they have said that was Dark phoenix.

Then those people are clearly wrong. The fight was in an Excalibur comic, but I don't remember what issue number it was exactly.

Originally posted by zopzop
You're comparing feats bu DP from the 70s vs Imperiex from the late 90s?

How is that fair?


Imperiex prime only appeared in our worlds at war, DP has way more appearances and feats than imperiex prime. you can name all the feats DP had, yet none of the feats come close to imperiex prime destroy /recreate universe or containing big bang. so the only conclusion I can come to is that imperiex prime is on a much bigger scale,
plus DP doesn't have the durability to take imperiex prime galaxy busting attacks whatsoever

the rachel summers vs galactus fight happened in Excalibur v1 #61

Originally posted by MrMind
Imperiex prime only appeared in our worlds at war, DP has way more appearances and feats than imperiex prime. you can name all the feats DP had, yet none of the feats come close to imperiex prime destroy /recreate universe or containing big bang. so the only conclusion I can come to is that imperiex prime is on a much bigger scale,
plus DP doesn't have the durability to take imperiex prime galaxy busting attacks whatsoever

Imperiex appeared in Summer 2001, DP last appearance was in 1980. Over twenty years separate them. The way feat inflation has accelerated between those years is ridiculous. So comparing feats is unfair to DP.

Originally posted by zopzop
Imperiex appeared in Summer 2001, DP last appearance was in 1980. Over twenty years separate them. The way feat inflation has accelerated between those years is ridiculous. So comparing feats is unfair to DP.

really some of the craziest feats are back in the 70's and 80's, for example two of the most popular character thor and superman. hell some of the crazy feats from both dc and marvel are decades ago. cosmic beings like beyonder, galactus or anti-monitor etc all have their best feats back in the 80s. the feats haven't been exaggerated at all over the time. maybe dark phoenix is just not that impressive

accidentally posted twice

Originally posted by MrMind
really some of the craziest feats are back in the 70's and 80's, for example two of the most popular character thor and superman. hell some of the crazy feats from both dc and marvel are decades ago. cosmic beings like beyonder, galactus or anti-monitor etc all have their best feats back in the 80s. the feats haven't been exaggerated at all over the time. maybe dark phoenix is just not that impressive

It depends. Pre Crisis DC feats are insane I'll give you that, but Marvel is a whole other story.

The Celestials which are supposedly above the Skyfathers don't have feats anywhere near as impressive as Odin does. Yet, Odin/Zeus/Vishnu knelt before Arshiem.

When Dark Phoenix rose, every adept on the planet felt it. Reed commented it's power rivaled that of Galactus (and this was at a time when it was weak and needed sustenance, that's why it ate the star AFTER making it go nova).

The Watcher commented that it was a Primal Force second only to the Creator himself.

So apparently more than a few people thought it was impressive, but comparing feats from Marvel characters from the late 70s early 80s with characters from DC in 2001 still isn't fair (feat inflation and all).

Originally posted by zopzop
The Celestials which are supposedly above the Skyfathers don't have feats anywhere near as impressive as Odin does. Yet, Odin/Zeus/Vishnu knelt before Arshiem.
Likely because even their combined powers melded into one blast didn't even phase Arishem:
http://img823.imageshack.us/img823/4707/thor30016.jpg

Originally posted by Galan007
Likely because even their combined powers melded into one blast didn't even phase Arishem:
http://img823.imageshack.us/img823/4707/thor30016.jpg

Thank you for the scan but I'm aware of that, I have the issue. Yet for all the drama, no Celestial has feats approaching Odin in scale.

Scope-wise? I agree.

That doesn't mean they aren't more powerful, though (as I'm sure you'd agree.)