Pokemon v.s. Final Fantasy, with less speculation!

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Originally posted by SpadeKing
Not much competitive online when most teams are EV'd Garchomps, Blisseys, legendaries, or the trainer just sucks.

My friend only EV'd a Pachirisu and Lucario for her team, you can just imagine how that turned out for me online on her DS haermm

Lol, that does suck, but those are ubers you mentioned, in OU, and UU tier, rather than Uber tier, it's a lot more balanced. 😛 I play on Smogon in OU and UU. I do pretty well. On my DS I'm currently IV breeding for a slowbro with a decent nature and 31 SP.D IV. Also, there's a video you need to see.
YouTube video

I'm shocked that no one has mentioned Tyranitar's landscape re-arranging EQ or Charizard's rock-melting flame. 🙁

Originally posted by Heythere,Honey
I'm shocked that no one has mentioned Tyranitar's landscape re-arranging EQ or Charizard's rock-melting flame. 🙁
Charizard also melts 10 000 ton glaciers, and his flames are hot enough to melt any material! But yeah, all in good time.

Originally posted by Nemesis X
All Machamp is gonna punch is the air because Vincent would be up way too high for Machamp to reach.

Machamp used Vacuum Wave!

Machamp can, in fact, kill someone by punching the air.

Originally posted by The Scenario
Machamp used Vacuum Wave!

Machamp can, in fact, kill someone by punching the air.

...LOL! I forgot about that.

Originally posted by ScreamPaste
Charizard also melts 10 000 ton glaciers, and his flames are hot enough to melt any material! But yeah, all in good time.

I think the FF team should be changed a bit.

Originally posted by The Scenario
Machamp used Vacuum Wave!

Machamp can, in fact, kill someone by punching the air.

Yeah, but........Gah, I hate you! 😠

Originally posted by ScreamPaste
Lol, that does suck, but those are ubers you mentioned, in OU, and UU tier, rather than Uber tier, it's a lot more balanced. 😛 I play on Smogon in OU and UU. I do pretty well. On my DS I'm currently IV breeding for a slowbro with a decent nature and 31 SP.D IV. Also, there's a video you need to see.
YouTube video

Yea, I knew about those two the guy I faced only had to use 3 Earthquakes, 3 ice beams, and a counter. Apparently to her the cuter the pokemon the better facepalm

That video inspired me, I always wanted to breed a magikarp to lvl 100 for an online battle 😐

That got an instant favorite 😱

What materia does Cloud get?

Originally posted by TheAuraAngel
What materia does Cloud get?
All of it, why not?

Originally posted by ScreamPaste
All of it, why not?

And with that, they could take out a lot of the major threats on the Pokemon team by turing them into toads if Cloud is fast enough.

Originally posted by Heythere,Honey
And with that, they could take out a lot of the major threats on the Pokemon team by turing them into toads if Cloud is fast enough.
Cloud has this ability in canon?

Originally posted by ScreamPaste
Cloud has this ability in canon?

Yeah. He stows all of his materia in a box and doesn't use them come Advent Children. Never seen him use it in a cutscene however.

Originally posted by ScreamPaste
All of it, why not?

All of it? Alakazam will be the best hope then for the pokemon. Yes, he has the ability to do every spell in the game now. No one ever uses magic in cutscenes in VII but its still legit. And I won't mention the summons because you consider them outside help.

ScreamPaste, you missed my comment...
Go back to the second page and read, please... 🙁

Looks like Cloud's importance level on Team 2 has accelerated. 🙂

Originally posted by Heythere,Honey
Looks like Cloud's importance level on Team 2 has accelerated. 🙂

Booooo! No seriously I have an odd grudge against Cloud and I don't know why. Seeing as how nobody in this thread is getting godly upgrades in this thread I can see the Pokemon side winning. Unless Vincent does get Chaos.

I'm just going to leave Ultimecia alone though.

Out of curiosity, what does Chaos Vincent get?

Re: Pokemon v.s. Final Fantasy, with less speculation!

My previous post wasn't good enough so here's a better one:

1. Machamp is clearly a class 100 opponent. It can lift mountains, send people flying over the horizon, and send trains flying. It can throw punches at blinding speed (1000 in 2 seconds) making it an opponent that's not worth fighting at close range. But Machamp only uses close range moves (since this is not a Trainer Pokemon) and isn't fast outside of its arm speed. Cloud and Squall will be hurt if they go close range but luckily, both have long range attacks. Zell is absolutely hopeless against it (unless he uses his Burning Rave).

Cloud should be able to do well against most of the opponents. Though Alakazaam is a problem. His Buster Sword can hold two Materia and he begins the game with Thunder and Ice Materia. With those two, he will fare well against Charizard and Blastoise. Cloud can also deflect bullets and is pretty fast as seen in Advent Children. He also has Omni Slash which will any of the Pokemon on there (I heard his latest Omnislash is so fast that it's finished at a blink of an eye but I do not know if that's true).

2. Charizard is one of the most overrated Pokemon ever. Regardless, his flames are a major threat as they can melt boulders and there's smokescreen to obscure the battlefield. Fire Fang and Slash prove it can hold its own against close range fighting but that's enough to compete with the likes of Cloud, Squall, and Zell. His flight will put Zell at a disadvantage but won't save him from Cloud and Squall (if we're counting Dissidia). Charizard is also going down if Vincent and/or Ultimecia decides to take action.

Vincent is the long range attacker in Team FF along with Ultimecia. His base form alone would kill Machamp. The most threatening about him is his Chaos form and that alone would wipe out the whole Pokemon team unless Alakazaam manages to catch him.

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3. Blastoise's cannons are highly accurate and can penetrate steel. The cannons can also be used to make high-speed tackles. Unfortunately, every character in this thread is capable of dodging its attacks. Plus, it's pretty slow making it vulnerable to Zell. It does have Protect and Iron Defense but that it will only delay its inevitable death via magic or Omnislash. Still it can be used as a distraction to help its Pokemon allies.

Squall is a powerhouse and I can only guess he's as good as Cloud. He really has no long range attacks though (unless we're throwing in Dissidia and Junction magic). Unfortunately, his best moves are mostly going to hit only Blastoise and Tyranitar (since Charizard has smokescreen).

4. Tyranitar is a powerhouse as it's capable of destroying mountains, causing landscape-changing earthquakes, and can withstand powerful attacks. It could easily be a GF/Aeon/Esper/Eidolon in the FF universe. With sandstorm and its wide range of attacks, it has a high advantage. The only issues it has are Chaos Vincent and Ultimecia who can solo the team. Tyranitar's defense is constantly wanked by the lollovelink club (who should be renamed Nintendo Wankers of KMC). In an episode of Pokemon, Ash & friends go into Larvitar's mind via Unown and we see its mother getting killed by men armed with rocket launchers.

Zell is the physical powerhouse of the FF team. He's capable of pulverizing anyone in Pokemon team and has powerful Limit Breaks. The only problem is that most of the opposing team can deal with Zell so assistance will be needed.

5. Alakazaam is genius and most powerful of the Pokemon team. It's psychic attacks prove useful against Team FF and it has teleport, Disable, and reflect to help itself. But the psychic type is very frail and is going down in one hit by its enemies. Reflect and Recover will help out but it won't save it from a barrage of slashes, punches, or gunshots. It will have to use its genius intellect to get through the fight.

Ultimecia, much like Alakazaam, is the genius and top tier of her team. She's not exactly supercomputer type but still enough to almost reach her goal of being omnipotent. She can make thoughts come to life and create monsters/GFs that have never existed. She has magical powers which include Dispel (removing Blastoise's and Alakazaam's defenses), Double (to increase her spell usage), Thundaga (to destroy Charizard and Blastoise), and Meltdown which inflicts damage and Vit0 (no protection against physical attacks). She alone would solo the Pokemon team (and even more if we're including her time control from Dissidia).

Just in case someone wants mention it, Alakazaam isn't going to psychic everyone at once. If it tries to hold a character immobile so that Machamp can have a free shot, the psychic will be vulnerable to another character. Chaos Vincent is faster than anybody in this thread and that alone gives FF the high advantage. Earthquake isn't going to hit everybody and Smokescreen is gettiing negated by Ultimecia's Tornado and Maelstrom.

Team FF wins.

Re: Re: Pokemon v.s. Final Fantasy, with less speculation!

Originally posted by Sin_Volvagia
My previous post wasn't good enough so here's a better one:

1. But Machamp only uses close range moves (since this is not a Trainer Pokemon) and isn't fast outside of its arm speed.

Cloud should be able to do well against most of the opponents. Though Alakazaam is a problem. His Buster Sword can hold two Materia and he begins the game with Thunder and Ice Materia. With those two, he will fare well against Charizard and Blastoise. Cloud can also deflect bullets and is pretty fast as seen in Advent Children. He also has Omni Slash which will any of the Pokemon on there (I heard his latest Omnislash is so fast that it's finished at a blink of an eye but I do not know if that's true).

2. Charizard is one of the most overrated Pokemon ever. Regardless, his flames are a major threat as they can melt boulders and there's smokescreen to obscure the battlefield. Fire Fang and Slash prove it can hold its own against close range fighting but that's enough to compete with the likes of Cloud, Squall, and Zell. His flight will put Zell at a disadvantage but won't save him from Cloud and Squall (if we're counting Dissidia). Charizard is also going down if Vincent and/or Ultimecia decides to take action.

Vincent is the long range attacker in Team FF along with Ultimecia. His base form alone would kill Machamp. The most threatening about him is his Chaos form and that alone would wipe out the whole Pokemon team unless Alakazaam manages to catch him.

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3. Blastoise's cannons are highly accurate and can penetrate steel. The cannons can also be used to make high-speed tackles. Unfortunately, every character in this thread is capable of dodging its attacks. Plus, it's pretty slow making it vulnerable to Zell. It does have Protect and Iron Defense but that it will only delay its inevitable death via magic or Omnislash. Still it can be used as a distraction to help its Pokemon allies.

Squall is a powerhouse and I can only guess he's as good as Cloud. He really has no long range attacks though (unless we're throwing in Dissidia and Junction magic). Unfortunately, his best moves are mostly going to hit only Blastoise and Tyranitar (since Charizard has smokescreen).

4. Tyranitar is a powerhouse as it's capable of destroying mountains, causing landscape-changing earthquakes, and can withstand powerful attacks. It could easily be a GF/Aeon/Esper/Eidolon in the FF universe. With sandstorm and its wide range of attacks, it has a high advantage. The only issues it has are Chaos Vincent and Ultimecia who can solo the team. Tyranitar's defense is constantly wanked by the lollovelink club (who should be renamed Nintendo Wankers of KMC). In an episode of Pokemon, Ash & friends go into Larvitar's mind via Unown and we see its mother getting killed by men armed with rocket launchers.

Zell is the physical powerhouse of the FF team. He's capable of pulverizing anyone in Pokemon team and has powerful Limit Breaks. The only problem is that most of the opposing team can deal with Zell so assistance will be needed.

5. Alakazaam is genius and most powerful of the Pokemon team. It's psychic attacks prove useful against Team FF and it has teleport, Disable, and reflect to help itself. But the psychic type is very frail and is going down in one hit by its enemies. Reflect and Recover will help out but it won't save it from a barrage of slashes, punches, or gunshots. It will have to use its genius intellect to get through the fight.

Ultimecia, much like Alakazaam, is the genius and top tier of her team. She's not exactly supercomputer type but still enough to almost reach her goal of being omnipotent. She can make thoughts come to life and create monsters/GFs that have never existed. She has magical powers which include Dispel (removing Blastoise's and Alakazaam's defenses), Double (to increase her spell usage), Thundaga (to destroy Charizard and Blastoise), and Meltdown which inflicts damage and Vit0 (no protection against physical attacks). She alone would solo the Pokemon team (and even more if we're including her time control from Dissidia).

Just in case someone wants mention it, Alakazaam isn't going to psychic everyone at once. If it tries to hold a character immobile so that Machamp can have a free shot, the psychic will be vulnerable to another character. Chaos Vincent is faster than anybody in this thread and that alone gives FF the high advantage. Earthquake isn't going to hit everybody and Smokescreen is gettiing negated by Ultimecia's Tornado and Maelstrom.

Team FF wins.

1. This is incorrect, Machamp has multiple long range abilities. It also has several priority moves, making it decently fast.

Ice Materia won't do anything to Charizard or Blastoise. If he is hit by either, he's probably a goner.

2. I agree Charizard is overrated. Alakazam happens to be extremely fast. And it can easily TK more than one enemy at a time, as its movement is TK working on itself. Charizard should be enough of a match for Vincent with flight and long range abilities. Can Vincent fly?

3. Do you realize how fast water has to be moving to punch through steel? A water propelled tackle might be slow since he is so heavy, but the water jets themselves, no way.

Withdraw + Hydro Pump is all a Blastoise should really need. Rapid Spin might help out, especially if added with his Hydro Pump.

Blastoise also has Haze, which outside of gameplay capabilities would also decrease vision.

4. Lol, you really do not like us, do you? I don't recall ever "constantly wanking Tyranitar's defense." It's a strong, powerful, threat. That's all Tyranitar needs to be.

5. I already mentioned some things about Alakazam. Take note that with Machamp's ability No Guard, all its attacks hit without fail, as do the opponents. But this means Machamp can get off about a thousand Dynamic Punches in a second. Should he for some reason only get one good hit, Dynamic Punch has a 100% Confuse rate.

Without Time Compression, can Ultimecia do any of that? Earthquake does actually hit everyone in the battle, too. Unless they are a Flying type or off the ground.

I don't think Chaos Vincent is in this either, it does say Vincent, though.