Lugia vs. Ho-Oh

Originally posted by Ridley_Prime
Wrong. Ho-oh can legitimately come back to life if he's defeated via Sacred Ash, so the match only continues.

Already mentioned 'em earlier in the thread. Sacred Fire instantly destroyed a tower in Ecruteak and was the very force that created Raikou, Entei, and Suicune. Hydro Pump has no feats that put it above that.

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While slightly more powerful than some of the following attacks in the metagame, Hydro Pump has nothing that actually puts it above Doom Desire, Shadow Force, Special Rend, Roar of Time, or Judgement either.

In this Vs world one loss, even if they could come back still means they lost the match, its what everyone has agreed on somewhere. Besides, Sacred Ash is a Recovery item not a held item. Ho-oh cant use it on itself (same as Lugia using potions) nor could it as it would need to faint then have someone use it.

Ho-oh didnt destroy the now Burned Tower, a lightning strike did. And the fire from the lightning killed them in which Ho-oh 'then' revived them when it fled. The only feat shown was in an anime flashback where the flames ashes gave life to the land, attack wise it has no feats... Even if we ignore damage power its still got the x2 type advantage.

Originally posted by BloodRain
In this Vs world one loss, even if they could come back still means they lost the match, its what everyone has agreed on somewhere. Besides, Sacred Ash is a Recovery item not a held item. Ho-oh cant use it on itself (same as Lugia using potions) nor could it as it would need to faint then have someone use it.

Originally posted by BloodRain
Ho-oh didnt destroy the now Burned Tower, a lightning strike did. And the fire from the lightning killed them in which Ho-oh 'then' revived them when it fled. The only feat shown was in an anime flashback where the flames ashes gave life to the land, attack wise it has no feats... Even if we ignore damage power its still got the x2 type advantage.

At least that's how I remember it. The games and the anime usually contradict each other on things like how the tower was originally destroyed, or how Mewtwo was created/born, etc.

Originally posted by Ridley_Prime
A wild Ho-oh is always [b]holding the Sacred Ash though, so presumably, it would activate when it faints. This is evident by the fact Ho-oh comes back to the Tin Tower in Heart Gold if you make it faint after beating the Elite 4.

Originally posted by Ridley_Prime
I'm pretty sure Ho-oh destroyed the tower with Sacred Fire when people who were once loyal to it tried capturing it to use its power for themselves, which then he struck back and fled. And feeling guilty for the death of three Pokemon that perished in the fire, he revived them with the mystical powers of his signature move and made them into the three legendary beasts they are now.

That's just how I remember it though. The games and the anime usually contradict each other on things like how the tower was originally destroyed, how Mewtwo was created/born, etc.

Ive seen several things saying lightning, havnt seen that one. Blah, setting fire to an old building, a normal Flamethrower could do that. Only difference is its ashes can bring life.