Originally posted by 753
the elder gods are called that because they are elder, spontaneously formed from primordial magical energy that bloomed in the birth of the planet - sometimes after demiurge breaks himself apart to give them life. As they reproduced, their power thinned out through the generations until the candy ass panthons and demon lords of today, they all descend from them. So thor isn't 'half elder god', he may be more powerfull than the average asgardian - who are barely more than human - because his parents were so powerfull, but he is still a microbe compared to his father, let alone his mother.
Hey - the average Asgardian can lift 30 tons and take punches from the Hulk and survive. That's better than barely human.
Odin is more powerful than Thor because while he lived he was connected to all the mystic energy in Asgard & the Nine Worlds, through the Odin force. Doesn't make Thor a microbe, exactly.
Originally posted by Firestorms
it not just Bendis who disrespects Thor but also the whole of Marvel who don't really think Thor is so super anymore
thor is not disrespected he is just portrayed the way he should be,problem is that there are many thor fanboys who believe he should be stronger then he really is, lets watch his entire career thor have always been fighting hulk toe 2 toe, most of the times lost to hercules,got his face caved in by kurse, surtur act act... thor was always is and will be always the way he should be and thats a hulk hercules level character with extra powers thats it dont try tomake him something he is not
Originally posted by roughrider
Hey - the average Asgardian can lift 30 tons and take punches from the Hulk and survive. That's better than barely human.
Odin is more powerful than Thor because while he lived he was connected to all the mystic energy in Asgard & the Nine Worlds, through the Odin force. Doesn't make Thor a microbe, exactly.
fine they are a lot stroner than humans, but just look at siege, they're getting dropped like flies by an army of z-listers. Daken's bone claws have eviscerated a hundred of them, Bullseye and taskmaster are going through them like they're fodder.
616 thor might grow up for good someday, but until then, claiming he is half elder god as though it means something is nonsense.
Originally posted by jinio
thor is not disrespected he is just portrayed the way he should be,problem is that there are many thor fanboys who believe he should be stronger then he really is, lets watch his entire career thor have always been fighting hulk toe 2 toe, most of the times lost to hercules,got his face caved in by kurse, surtur act act... thor was always is and will be always the way he should be and thats a hulk hercules level character with extra powers thats it dont try tomake him something he is not
Did you ever notice that Thor always goes H2H against those guys? I mean Thor is evenly matched with Herc in terms of strength. (they are, it has been stated a LOT of times) And when Thor first cheats, he wins... One lighting bolt and herc went down... But you are obviously biased, so arguing with you would be beneath me.
Originally posted by amnesia
Did you ever notice that Thor always goes H2H against those guys? I mean Thor is evenly matched with Herc in terms of strength. (they are, it has been stated a LOT of times) And when Thor first cheats, he wins... One lighting bolt and herc went down... But you are obviously biased, so arguing with you would be beneath me.
he is using mjolnir against them which is already cheating and he still get his ass kicked by them, if you think that you are above someone thats pathetic you know what they say only a fool will think he is smart and only the smart knows that he is a fool
Originally posted by jinioHow is using his trademark weapon at all considered Thor using an unfair advantage?
he is using mjolnir against them which is already cheating and he still get his ass kicked by them, if you think that you are above someone thats pathetic you know what they say only a fool will think he is smart and only the smart knows that he is a fool
Originally posted by D_Dude1210
What would REALLY hurt the Thor fans is if Thor gets wrecked and then the Surfer comes in and beats Void/Sentry. 🙂
lol, i doubt that will happen. Surfer has been on a bit of a run since annhilation tho. From annihilation onwards he has, created blackhole as a sideffect of a casual blast, matched and replicated thanos power output, Taken a huge beating from Proemial Gods and channeled the crunch energies, reconstructed planet skaar and stripped skaar of the oldpower, Made nova prime look like a toddler as well as some badass telepathy and matter manip feats in the nova series....right up to his recent demolition of Beta ray bill. His only blemishes as of recent were the infamous black panther hammer lock incident and the Rulk thing (which doesnt really apply since it wasnt current surfer anyways).
Thor on the other hand has been in a bit of a slump ever since coming back with the events of siege being the height of it. Sadly he really doesnt seem to be in the good graces of his current writers. (Hopefully he can make a comeback in siege 4).
Originally posted by Wild Shadow
at least not until he gets it in multi colored print
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I mean, he had Ares ripped in half by Sentry, and had Thor fight Sentry on roughly even footing despite having been less than 100%. I say "roughly even" because Thor was able to shrug off Sentry's blows as well as deal damage (probably cosmetic only) to Sentry's "shell" without being completely messed up at the end of their scuffle. Not a good way to show his case.
And that's without looking at their earlier feats for comparison.
Originally posted by JakeTheBankYou probably haven't read the fight that Bendis wrote. He gave Thor a free shot, then took what Thor described as 'all the power at his command' (yes, it obviously wasn't, but we're discussing what Bendis has penned here -- remember this part), only for his 'void form' to creep out of the 'Sentry shell' and make Thor practically shit his pants while he is helplessly in its grasp, until he leaves and take down Asgard with Thor watching, again, helpless.
👆I mean, he had Ares ripped in half by Sentry, and had Thor fight Sentry on roughly even footing despite having been less than 100%. I say "roughly even" because Thor was able to shrug off Sentry's blows as well as deal damage (probably cosmetic only) to Sentry's "shell" without being completely messed up at the end of their scuffle. Not a good way to show his case.
And that's without looking at their earlier feats for comparison.