Ares Vs Thor(read what bendis thinks)

Originally posted by JakeTheBank
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I mean, he had Ares ripped in half by Sentry, and had Thor fight Sentry on roughly even footing despite having been less than 100%. I say "roughly even" because Thor was able to shrug off Sentry's blows as well as deal damage (probably cosmetic only) to Sentry's "shell" without being completely messed up at the end of their scuffle. Not a good way to show his case.

And that's without looking at their earlier feats for comparison.

Sentry was just playing with him, thor never really threatened him in that fight. We'll know more soon.

Originally posted by 753
Sentry was just playing with him, thor never really threatened him in that fight. We'll know more soon.

Originally posted by quanchi112
I agree. Sentry isn't going to rip everyone in his path in half. Sentry did show Thor wasn't even a threat at all and took down asgard while fighting Thor. Very impressive.

Although i agree, Sentry WTF pwns Thor, why do you like that messed up character? He is like the Paris Hilton of the marvel universe.

Originally posted by amnesia
Although i agree, Sentry WTF pwns Thor, why do you like that messed up character? He is like the Paris Hilton of the marvel universe.

I hate sentry, but the void is alright

Originally posted by quanchi112
I like the fact he is unstable. I like the Void side of him and the fact he's terrified of losing control. I also love Thor but the Void has always been above the likes of Thor thus far.

Personally i don't have anything against him, and i look forward to see some more kick ass fatality's,i just think he is an underdeveloped character.

(The last comment BTW, was just to grind your gears... Red hulk >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Paris Hilton

Originally posted by amnesia
Personally i don't have anything against him, and i look forward to see some more kick ass fatality's,i just think he is an underdeveloped character.

(The last comment BTW, was just to grind your gears... Red hulk >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Paris Hilton

I like the Sentry and actually like the fact most people can't stand him.

Originally posted by Wild Shadow
i have always tried to read comics as i was an old timer and had bn reading them for over 30 some yrs and had just picked up on comics in the last 10 yrs.... i wonder to myself what would old 70's 80's 90's comic writers think of what modern writers had done to their characters..

i dont think Ares has bn viewed as being a god in the same league as thor or above him although i think he should have bn seeing as what kind of god he is..

i think a lot of old school writers would and have cried with what writers have done to thor powerwise as well as other characters who have had similar treatment just to sell more comics at the expense of their image.

at least DC writes their character up powerwise until they need a retcon... modern marvel writers seem to write them down and through the gutter removing skills and powers and give them new retcons by simply revealing more of ones past or deals with mephisto...

I don't agree with the depowering of certain characters but I also think the powersets of certain characters should be streamlined. Thor controls lightining, why not play with that idea more. He's the god of lightning and his abilities should be based around this element. The same way guys like Ymir are skyfathers controlling one potent element.

Also its about damn time Marvel upgraded some of their gods. I've never liked their treatment of the likes of Ares, Balder et al. Balder was the wisest god in Norse mythology, not just an Adonis. Ares is supposed to be a powerful skyfather type deity, not a borderline mid to lower tier guy.

Originally posted by quanchi112
I like the fact he is unstable. I like the Void side of him and the fact he's terrified of losing control. I also love Thor but the Void has always been above the likes of Thor thus far.

I think Sentry is a character in creative limbo. Writers don't know what to do with him. He went from being a conventional hero (that was supposed to be as celebrated as Thor even though he was new) to becoming a Doomsday-Jerkyl & Hyde type character that's become nothing short of a sentient weapon.

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the moment the avengers found him in that dungeon or whatever with the hobo beard, he was cool in my book. this is the REAL sentry, acting like superman was only a part of his power set and personality.

Originally posted by Allankles
I think Sentry is a character in creative limbo. Writers don't know what to do with him. He went from being a conventional hero (that was supposed to be as celebrated as Thor even though he was new) to becoming a Doomsday-Jerkyl & Hyde type character that's become nothing short of a sentient weapon.

Agreed completely.

His "non evil" half is barely a step up from Void, considering he rips characters in half. And he's so unstable and simple minded, you have to wonder how he ever performed those genius feats of technology and such... Hell, you have to wonder how he ever fooled the world into believing he wasn't insane.

Originally posted by Allankles
I don't agree with the depowering of certain characters but I also think the powersets of certain characters should be streamlined. Thor controls lightining, why not play with that idea more. He's the god of lightning and his abilities should be based around this element. The same way guys like Ymir are skyfathers controlling one potent element.

The Marvel family/Black Adam is a pretty good example of how to do this. The way they manipulate lightning helps further separate them from Superman, and it's resulted in some pretty cool moments.

Also, playing up their "magic" nature more, like showing Captain Marvel has natural resistance to magics.

Originally posted by quanchi112
I agree. Sentry isn't going to rip everyone in his path in half. Sentry did show Thor wasn't even a threat at all and took down asgard while fighting Thor. Very impressive.

Originally posted by Allankles
I think Sentry is a character in creative limbo. Writers don't know what to do with him. He went from being a conventional hero (that was supposed to be as celebrated as Thor even though he was new) to becoming a Doomsday-Jerkyl & Hyde type character that's become nothing short of a sentient weapon.

Originally posted by Doctor-Alvis
That was really only due to his insane flight speed.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Are you saying if it weren't for his flight speed Thor would have prevented him from taking down asgard?

Originally posted by Mindset
I think Ares should have always been stronger than Thor, too bad he was never portrayed that way.

Marvel Ares should have been more like DC.

Originally posted by iceman24567
👆 Dc Ares is just a better character all around

DC chose Ares to be the big evil heavy in their Olympic pantheon. At Marvel, they chose Hades/Pluto a long time ago instead. That's all.

Originally posted by roughrider
DC chose Ares to be the big evil heavy in their Olympic pantheon. At Marvel, they chose Hades/Pluto a long time ago instead. That's all.

Originally posted by Doctor-Alvis
I'm saying, even though I think they were in post opening blow dialogue and not actually fighting when it happened, because of Sentry's insane flight speed he was able to destroy the castle in like a second, before Thor could try to delay, or even react to, it.

Originally posted by roughrider
DC chose Ares to be the big evil heavy in their Olympic pantheon. At Marvel, they chose Hades/Pluto a long time ago instead. That's all.

But DC Hades is also a heavyweight. Hera, Zeus, Hades, Ares are all heavyweights in DC. In Marvel it usually just one or 2 from the Norse and Olympian pantheons that could be classified as heavyweights.

Balder wisest of the Norse gods - nothing but an Adonis type figure. Ares - a lower tier warrior.

Heimdall an intriguing god in Norse mythology, the father of the Norsemen who worshiped the gods and arguably the toughest guy in the Norse pantheon, and the guy who ultimately kills Loki - not so tough, not even Thor level.