Ares Vs Thor(read what bendis thinks)

Started by quanchi1128 pages

Originally posted by Allankles
But DC Hades is also a heavyweight. Hera, Zeus, Hades, Ares are all heavyweights in DC. In Marvel it usually just one or 2 from the Norse and Olympian pantheons that could be classified as heavyweights.

Balder wisest of the Norse gods - nothing but an Adonis type figure. Ares - a lower tier warrior.

Heimdall an intriguing god in Norse mythology, the father of the Norsemen who worshiped the gods and arguably the toughest guy in the Norse pantheon, and the guy who ultimately kills Loki - not so tough, not even Thor level.

How is Ares is a heavyweight? What has he done to prove he's more formidable than Thor?

Originally posted by quanchi112
How is Ares is a heavyweight? What has he done to prove he's more formidable than Thor?

He killed Highfather (who was admittedly caught off guard), something I can't see Thor doing.

Originally posted by Omega Vision
He killed Highfather (who was admittedly caught off guard), something I can't see Thor doing.
So if Thor channeled his energy and caught Izaya off guard with a godblast Izaya would live?

Originally posted by quanchi112
So if Thor channeled his energy and caught Izaya off guard with a godblast Izaya would live?

Izaya was caught off guard but it wasn't like he was ambushed. He didn't have time to raise an effective defense but he'd be able to dodge a God-Blast.

So let me get this straight. Thor, who has battled everything from Surtur to Celestials and everything in between and showed no fear while doing so, pisses himself over Sentry? I mean really?

Originally posted by dmills
So let me get this straight. Thor, who has battled everything from Surtur to Celestials and everything in between and showed no fear while doing so, pisses himself over Sentry? I mean really?

To be fair the Celestials never thought to take the form of a Space Crab.

gotta ask this but, how can bendis think that ares and thor are similar in power yet ares is not as strong as herc, and his magical abilities are very limited

Originally posted by Lord_Talron
gotta ask this but, how can bendis think that ares and thor are similar in power yet ares is not as strong as herc, and his magical abilities are very limited

Its bullshit how Marvel treats their Gods. A main Olympian God below a Demigod like Hercules? Bullshit Marvel.

Outside of the core three brothers (Zeus, Hades, Poseidon) and Hera Ares was probably the most powerful Olympian in original myth.

hmm, maybe bendis is trying to do a favor for the myth, still consistency is nice...

Originally posted by Lord_Talron
hmm, maybe bendis is trying to do a favor for the myth, still consistency is nice...

I don't blame Bendis so much as whoever the genius was that first chose to make Marvel Ares a Low-Mid Herald.

Originally posted by Omega Vision
I don't blame Bendis so much as whoever the genius was that first chose to make Marvel Ares a Low-Mid Herald.
agree with you, but unless hes retconned, bendis should keep him as he has already been written

Originally posted by quanchi112
How is Ares is a heavyweight? What has he done to prove he's more formidable than Thor?

I was talking about Marvel Ares stature vs his mytholgical stature. And if you're talking about DC Ares, he psionically feeds off of conflict and can manipulate reality to a degree to generate conflict i.e. he trully epitomizes the title of god of war.

As I said, he fulfills his role as a deity of war, he's not just some lower tier warrior with immortality, he actually generates conflict metaphysically and is altered by and strengthened through conflict.

EDIT: And I forgot to mention that he has power over the dead as a death god as well.

Originally posted by dmills
So let me get this straight. Thor, who has battled everything from Surtur to Celestials and everything in between and showed no fear while doing so, pisses himself over Sentry? I mean really?

Doesn't make sense.

Originally posted by Omega Vision
I don't blame Bendis so much as whoever the genius was that first chose to make Marvel Ares a Low-Mid Herald.

I honestly im not sure he is even up to that. At the very very very best he is low herald level. Not even close to mid. I mean isnt he a 70 tonner? Not to mention his durability doesnt seem to be to great nor does he have a wide range of powers or anything.

Originally posted by Omega Vision
Izaya was caught off guard but it wasn't like he was ambushed. He didn't have time to raise an effective defense but he'd be able to dodge a God-Blast.
But if he got hit he'd die. Thanks for agreeing. Izaya also doesn't have many impressive showings at all. The guy has been beaten by Seid and was easily killed by Ares.
Originally posted by Omega Vision
Its bullshit how Marvel treats their Gods. A main Olympian God below a Demigod like Hercules? Bullshit Marvel.

Outside of the core three brothers (Zeus, Hades, Poseidon) and Hera Ares was probably the most powerful Olympian in original myth.

I think marvel does a much better job than dc with their mythologies.
Originally posted by Allankles
I was talking about Marvel Ares stature vs his mytholgical stature. And if you're talking about DC Ares, he psionically feeds off of conflict and can manipulate reality to a degree to generate conflict i.e. he trully epitomizes the title of god of war.

As I said, he fulfills his role as a deity of war, he's not just some lower tier warrior with immortality, he actually generates conflict metaphysically and is altered by and strengthened through conflict.

EDIT: And I forgot to mention that he has power over the dead as a death god as well.

He was also dominated by Cronus like a noob and was recently killed by WW. What has he done to prove he's uber since you believe he is?

To be fair, Ares planned for Diana to kill him.

Originally posted by JakeTheBank
To be fair, Ares planned for Diana to kill him.
The attack still can kill him though. I don't see this attack doing much if anything to someone like Odin.

Originally posted by quanchi112
The attack still can kill him though. I don't see this attack doing much if anything to someone like Odin.

If Odin wanted to die, I don't see why not.

Originally posted by JakeTheBank
If Odin wanted to die, I don't see why not.
So if Odin wants to die can make it happen simply by his desire when being attacked?

Originally posted by quanchi112
So if Odin wants to die can make it happen simply by his desire when being attacked?

If he's being striked in a otherwise fatal manner with weapons that are more likely than not, enchanted (as it was stated in the previous volume of WW only said enchanted weapons could even harm Ares as he is the God of War), sure. Ares being killed by Diana with a enchanted axe when he prepped for and counted for said instance isn't a low showing for him.