Nidoking vs Tyranitar

Originally posted by MooCowofJustice
Not sure we qualify all those as horns. But yeah, a tail swing equals Onslaught meets Juggernaut.

And there's plenty of space on Nidoking to be smashed that doesn't have horns on it.

Right, because Nidoking, who is renowned for his charging and tackling skill, is going to be charging Ty totally exposed.

Sarcasm aside, this is looking like a draw if we are being fair about it.

IF ty can hit em. i didnt think much about the tail, but since its been added in all nido has to do is bind ty with his tail & go to work with Brick Break or Horn Drill.

I still think Nidoking would win...

Naw, Ty(phlosion) FTW.

@LLLLLink
Ditto...no pun intended 😱

Nidoking's tail isn't long enough or strong enough to lift a Tyranitar.

No one said anything about lifting. Although a Charmeleon's tail could lift a Tyranitar.

Nidoking wraps its tail around Tyranitar's neck, crushes it's throat and immobilizes it for the Horn Drill rape.

Seriously, that isn't happening. I doubt Nidoking's tail has the length to wrap around Tyranitar's neck without being ridiculously close. Almost belly to belly. Nidoking is way shorter, cutting off precious inches, and then you have to wrap it around a neck.

While Nidoking is trying to do that, Tyranitar smashes him.

Originally posted by MooCowofJustice
Seriously, that isn't happening. I doubt Nidoking's tail has the length to wrap around Tyranitar's neck without being ridiculously close. Almost belly to belly. Nidoking is way shorter, cutting off precious inches, and then you have to wrap it around a neck.

While Nidoking is trying to do that, Tyranitar smashes him.

Tyranitar smashes him, only to injure his hand on the harder-than-diamond horns and steel-like hide.

Close combat is Nidoking's specialty, and he is proficient with his hands, feet, head, tail and body. Getting Ty in a hold wont prove too difficult, especially with a speed advantage.

Mountain busting > Steel.

Nidoking is proficient in close combat? Really?

That speed advantage is practically moot.

Originally posted by MooCowofJustice
Mountain busting > Steel.

Nidoking is proficient in close combat? Really?

That speed advantage is practically moot.

Dirt mountains w/ Earthquake.

Yes, he prefers it actually. It is his specialty.

In a real fight, being a fraction of a second faster is the difference between landing a blow and getting hit. I wouldn't call it moot.

With what you are trying to say Nidoking will do, he gets flattened before he lands a hit because he is wasting his precious slight speed advantage by getting closer than Tyranitar will need to land a blow.

The speed advantage is being far overstated for being as minor as it is.

Tyranitar is WAAAAAYYYYY stronger and more durable and still 80% as fast. Nidoking gets ko'd before he even gets close enough to use his horn drill. Reach still goes to the far taller Tyranitar by far.

Since we are talking realistcally anyway and not just turn-based game mechanics, even if Nidoking pierces Tyranitar, he's not going to kill him instantly unless he hits a vital organ. So while he's impaled he will simply punch through Nidoking's spine.

Tyranitar is not going to beat Nidoking in CQC. Ty has nothing to show that he could defend himself against Nidoking's onslaught. Nidoking's pokedex reveals that he is capable of spacing and mindgames during combat.

Basically, Tyranitar is the big, strong, slow brute and Nidoking is the lighter, faster, experienced martial artist.

@CosmicComet: Being 20% faster than your opponent is enough to rape them horribly IRL.
Also, Nidoking is the one who actually has a pokedex entry about breaking spines, not Tyranitar.

They are both brutes. One is just more talented at it and far larger to boot while only slightly slower.

Nidoking will not be fast enough to dodge anything if he gets in up close. Tyranitar with a first round KO if Nido gets in close.

And no a tiger can't rape a bear of its size even if its 20% faster.

Also, Nidoking is the one who actually has a pokedex entry about breaking spines, not Tyranitar.

What's your point? I wasn't confusing pokedex statements. I was stating something that is within Tyranitar's physical capability. Spine breaking is not some special ability that only Nidokings can do. 😕

Yeah, Nidoking breaks spines. That's incredibly impressive next to mountain flattening with one hand.

Being durable enough to crush trillions of tons of rock means Nidoking is going to have his hands full hurting Tyranitar much at all.

Yeah, diamond is denser than any other rock, but this case quantity > quality.

Originally posted by CosmicComet
They are both brutes. One is just more talented at it and far larger to boot while only slightly slower.

Nidoking will not be fast enough to dodge anything if he gets in up close. Tyranitar with a first round KO if Nido gets in close.

And no a tiger can't rape a bear of its size even if its 20% faster.

Tyranitar has nothing that can stop Nidoking, whose horns are harder than diamonds and hide is like steel. He has nothing in the way of CQC other than brute strength, which means little. Nidoking is faster, which means he will beat Ty to the punch every time. Not only that, but Nidoking is the more skilled fighter, and dodging a slow brute's punch wont prove to be much of a challenge.

Nidoking wraps his tail around Tyranitar's leg, crushes the bones (if any), trips Tyranitar to the ground and Horn Drills his heart.

Also, mountain flattening wont stop a Nidoking.

You need to stop making out Nidoking to be something he's not. He's not a speed fighter or even all that tactical.

A slow brute will not dodge a slightly slower brute's punch, especially when that slightly slower brute has a big reach advantage. Flattening a mountain means hitting a pokemon that weighs no more than an average woman is going to be comical. Steel be damned, 130 lbs of steel is no big deal for a mountain buster.