Bayonetta, Kratos, and Sephiroth vs. Link and Sheik (SSBB)

Started by BloodRain44 pages

Why would that weaken the Arwing? I don't think I've seen that grappling arm outside of Brawl, but I assume its for catching other ships. If that were the case it would have to be pretty strong to hang on. Later, Fox's next Arwing is also hit by a projectile from the Halberd and is able to continue flying unhindered. Meaning that arm is stronger than weapon fire designed to battle other huge ships.

Rayquaza also never destroys that first ship. Fox actually ejects out of it unharmed and proceeds to defeat Rayquaza.

It also appears that the arm managed to hit the Arwing on the engines. None of this means the rest of the Arwing is any less durable than in its games. It is also incredibly fast, as shown by an earlier scene called "The Arwing's Pursuit."

Did Bayonetta actually headbutt a skyscraper or did a summon do it?


Strong to hold onto the ship but not at hitting it, (not much point in a grappling arm to hit things) a glance from it got through the harder metal body. We dont know how tough the windsheild is, 'cept that it would be alot less then the body. Rayquazas blast did leave it in flames though. Meh.

Was all Bay, no summons.

Sonic is a lot faster than Mach 1, or so I'm told. I also think you are exaggerating. Those rocks that it stopped were not moving very fast themselves. When it slowed them it slowed them to a near halt.

Running at mach 1 is for the example. I might be, might not be. Say those rocks were falling at 5m/s, in Witch time they then moves 2cm a second making it 250x slower as in Sonic at 760mph seems like 7mph to her. (used 100x in the sonic example, 100x would be the bare min) Was much slower in the Balder scene. Either way team 2 wont be able to deal with it.
We do when they don't have to move to teleport. Like a spell where Kain had to move his arms or something to cast it, that wouldn't work.

Ohhhh I getcha. Though unless she teleports the instant shes held Seph can appear and strike.
It looks like Hermes was just messing with him. And we don't actually know how Kratos hit him anyway.

Seems like he was messing with him but if ya ask me he just lacks any fighting skill to to any better ^^; Thats true but we know that Kratos found a way to take down a fast opponent. Put in that team 2 wont be running away and are not as agile, can see the same ending.

Originally posted by Sin_Volvagia

[B]Rayquaza

-Much weaker than in the Pokemon games (his stat total is higher than Mewtwo's).
[/B]

No, it's not. They are even. 😬

Whats Mario and Links 'angry walk', got a vid?

Originally posted by LLLLLink
No, it's not. They are even. 😬

At Rayquaza's debut, it was the Pokemon with highest stat (until people learned about Deoxys). Him being equal to Mewtwo is not something I know about.

Originally posted by BloodRain
Whats Mario and Links 'angry walk', got a vid?

YouTube video
5:30-5:56

The rocks don't even mean much when she made rain freeze and rain falls much faster.

Numbers to make rain come to a standstill is minimum 5000m/s

`-` what are my rough guess not good enough for you? lol

Ahh time powers, gonna love 'em. Btw whats at 5000m/s?

Originally posted by BloodRain
Strong to hold onto the ship but not at hitting it, (not much point in a grappling arm to hit things) a glance from it got through the harder metal body. We dont know how tough the windsheild is, 'cept that it would be alot less then the body. Rayquazas blast did leave it in flames though. Meh.

Was all Bay, no summons.

Would have to be pretty damn fast, too. As shown, it is. It hit the engine area, a lot more effective than anywhere else. Windshield is just as strong as the rest of it, except for apparently the engine area.

Neat.

Originally posted by BloodRain
Running at mach 1 is for the example. I might be, might not be. Say those rocks were falling at 5m/s, in Witch time they then moves 2cm a second making it 250x slower as in Sonic at 760mph seems like 7mph to her. (used 100x in the sonic example, 100x would be the bare min) Was much slower in the Balder scene. Either way team 2 wont be able to deal with it.

Would like to know where you get your numbers from. Is it said how much slower witchtime makes stuff?

Originally posted by BloodRain
Ohhhh I getcha. Though unless she teleports the instant shes held Seph can appear and strike.

Don't think I've ever seen Sephiroth teleport. Is it anything like in KH2? You know, with the black feathers and all that nonsense.

Originally posted by BloodRain
Seems like he was messing with him but if ya ask me he just lacks any fighting skill to to any better ^^; Thats true but we know that Kratos found a way to take down a fast opponent. Put in that team 2 wont be running away and are not as agile, can see the same ending.

A lack of fighting skills would definitely make it easier for Kratos to win. But honestly Hermes doesn't look that fast. I've seen things just as fast from SSBB Link.

Her speed at bare minimum for making rain come to a stop feat.

Or if your talking about outside reference, that's about mach 15--about 7 mach slower than a space shuttle.

Btw whats at 5000m/s?

Not team 2, thats for sure. excellent

Don't think I've ever seen Sephiroth teleport. Is it anything like in KH2? You know, with the black feathers and all that nonsense.

I think theres a bit in ff7 where he literally appears from nowhere while you're walking down a hallway. Screen flashes black and there he is. But I was 10 at the time, so yeah.....

The bare minimum speed of a raindrop at 5000m/s? I really hope I misread that. 'cause that isn't true.

Well he was talking about how fast you'd need to be to make them do a standstill, but I agree that seems pretty ridiculous.

A google search reveals: http://www.google.co.uk/search?client=firefox-a&rls=org.mozilla%3Aen-GB%3Aofficial&channel=s&hl=en&source=hp&q=How+fast+does+rain+fall&meta=&btnG=Google+Search

Between 5 and 20 mrh or somewhere in the region of 20 fps.

Originally posted by MooCowofJustice
Would have to be pretty damn fast, too. As shown, it is. It hit the engine area, a lot more effective than anywhere else. Windshield is just as strong as the rest of it, except for apparently the engine are.

What makes you think the the windshield is as tough as the body?
Originally posted by MooCowofJustice
Would like to know where you get your numbers from. Is it said how much slower witchtime makes stuff?

Mine? Rough guesswork. The one Keollyn got was with more accurate figures. Doesnt have to be said if it can be worked out.
Originally posted by MooCowofJustice
Don't think I've ever seen Sephiroth teleport. Is it anything like in KH2? You know, with the black feathers and all that nonsense.

Dont know exactly, been said many times. Know its in KH2 and Dissidia though.
Originally posted by MooCowofJustice
A lack of fighting skills would definitely make it easier for Kratos to win. But honestly Hermes doesn't look that fast. I've seen things just as fast from SSBB Link.

Actually the lack of fighting skills would make Hermes move evasive and stay away from Kratos. The fastest parts like two times on that rope were faster then what ive seen Link do. Plus hes move agile then Link and unlike him Link wont be running away and evading Kratos all the time.

Originally posted by MooCowofJustice
The bare minimum speed of a raindrop at 5000m/s? I really hope I misread that. 'cause that isn't true.

Yes, you have misread.

Glasses check please.

Originally posted by MooCowofJustice
The bare minimum speed of a raindrop at 5000m/s? I really hope I misread that. 'cause that isn't true.

5000m/s? What?!

How did you know I had glasses?!

OMG, he can read mindz!!!1!

Originally posted by MooCowofJustice
How did you know I had glasses?!

I'm right behind you 🪩

Remember doing this for Dantes rain scene. A raindrop falling 5m/s, now to make rain seem like doesnt move it would have to move extremely slow, about 0.001m/s (or 0.1cm/s). That makes anyone who moves when the rain stops moving -speed- or appearing to move -time powers- at at least 5000m/s (5/0.001=5000)

Damn my poor math skills! I don't know whether thats true or not....

Originally posted by Nephthys
Damn my poor math skills! I don't know whether thats true or not....

Well he believes the same

http://forums.narutofan.com/showpost.php?p=10138023&postcount=38

The vid for Clark isn't up, but here it is

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qvwm-D90Acw#t=0m50s