Originally posted by h1a8
Lol a few were show very weak. IM busted the nose of Sentry with a single punch. Superman is astronomically stronger than IM. So in general Sentry wins.
But Batman bloodied Superman and we know IM is astronomically stronger than Batman even on venom. Where does that leave us?
Originally posted by tkitnaIM is not astronomically stronger than normal Batman. IM on average is probably a 100 times stronger. And roughly 10 times stronger than Batman on venom (assuming Bats bloodying Supes is PIS ). If it wasn't PIS then Batman on venom is a lot stronger than IM.
But Batman bloodied Superman and we know IM is astronomically stronger than Batman even on venom. Where does that leave us?
Sentry is variable based off his mental state. So at an unstable state he can be very weak. This was explained in comics. So Sentry low showings aren't PIS at all. Sentry at full capacity beats DCnu Supes though.
Superman resisted Transmulation from Disciple, an elder God empowered being who was transmuting the whole JLA including Gods like Barda, Angels like Zauriel, God empowered beings like Wonder Woman and Molecular self controllers like Martian Manhunter.
Sentry can do NOTHING to Superman's molecular structure.
Originally posted by h1a8
IM is not astronomically stronger than normal Batman. IM on average is probably a 100 times stronger. And roughly 10 times stronger than Batman on venom (assuming Bats bloodying Supes is PIS ). If it wasn't PIS then Batman on venom is a lot stronger than IM.Sentry is variable based off his mental state. So at an unstable state he can be very weak. This was explained in comics. So Sentry low showings aren't PIS at all. Sentry at full capacity beats DCnu Supes though.
Half of what Batman does is PIS. Don't even ask him how he does what he does. He'll just tell you "It's because I'm Batman!" He breaks the laws of physics because he's Batman.
It's already ridiculous enough that someone at the peak of human physical strength is also more nimble than any other ninja. If he's like a ninja, then he's supposed to be more lean than muscular.
Batman isn't even 1/100th of his strength. He shouldn't even be able to lift a ton.
Originally posted by Mike82Batman can exert several tons of strength. 1-2 on average.
Half of what Batman does is PIS. Don't even ask him how he does what he does. He'll just tell you "It's because I'm Batman!" He breaks the laws of physics because he's Batman.It's already ridiculous enough that someone at the peak of human physical strength is also more nimble than any other ninja. If he's like a ninja, then he's supposed to be more lean than muscular.
Batman isn't even 1/100th of his strength. He shouldn't even be able to lift a ton.
Originally posted by tkitna
Quotes like these are the reason I don't have you on ignore. Everybody needs some comic relief once in awhile.
Current IM is about a 100 tonner on average. Him and Thing are roughly peers in strength. Batman averages about a ton. So IM is about 100 times stronger on average (which is significant but not astronomical). I don't see IM overpowering 20 Banes on Venom in a contest of strength.
Originally posted by h1a8
Current IM is about a 100 tonner on average. Him and Thing are roughly peers in strength. Batman averages about a ton. So IM is about 100 times stronger on average (which is significant but not astronomical). I don't see IM overpowering 20 Banes on Venom in a contest of strength.
What is the mathematical cutoff before it becomes astronomical?
Originally posted by SurturMy key words is on average. Batman has feats above 10 tons of force but I'm giving him a ton here. Plus Thing and some low class 100s can ALWAYS smash up IM's suit which implies that it can, on average, support a few hundred tons of hand sized pressure. Thus lifting more than a few hundred tons is probably PIS. This makes sense because the suit is not even close to adamantium in strength.
Iron Man can lift far more then a mere 100 tons.
Originally posted by DarkSaint85I was safe to say More than 1000. I didn't commit to an actual number, just a lower bound. Was thinking from comets to planets. Anyway you help prove him wrong. That IM isn't astronomically stronger than Batman.
Even 10,000 times is still far from astronomical, lol.The USS Nimitz is like 100,000 tons..