Buccaneer Caribbean Pirate vs A Spartan

Started by Enyalus3 pages

Originally posted by inimalist
The most telling evidence for the fact that Spartan tactics were outdated comes from the fact that they were abandoned by Eurpoeans and Muslims in favor of more developed military ideas. If the Franks really wanted Spartan soldiers, it was well within their power to do so, the fact is, they just had better.

Hell, Spartan tactics were outdated in 371 BC, when Thebes beat them. They didn't believe in combined arms theory. Nevertheless, the Anglo-Saxon army under Harold at Hastings used Spartan-like tactics (essentially closely packed, shield wall), the Swiss pike square was virtually a phalanx itself, and the Spanish tercio was based on that same principle and dominated the European battlefield until 1643.

😛 Plenty of reason why the infantry tactics themselves are not outdated.

Originally posted by inimalist
considering fire is one of the oldest technologies known to man, that it was employed in battle in ancient times is hardly surprising.

Im also sure the disadvantages of flame based combat were as apparent 2000 years ago as it is today.


Since when does fire equal flamethrower? I'm talking full tanks using bronze tubing and a siphon-like object to pressurize and then project the flames onto the enemy. Pretty advanced shit. It's impressive. 😠

Originally posted by inimalist
you really haven't given a way for the Spartans to counter cannon bombardment or gunfire. Its possible that the Greeks had access to arrows that would have been more accurate at a greater range than the pirate firearms, but the cannons on the ship would be devastating.
Not to mention arrows wouldn't blast through the walls of the ship, and the cannons are in the hull, so even if the Spartans did have bows, it would be useless.

Spartan's have spears and javelins; they have a further reach than those unreliable canons and are 700% more accurate. There's a reason why during a sea-battle, those ships would get as close as possible (within several feet sometimes) before opening fire on each other. Shit range and even shittier aim.

Pirates likely kill 2/3rds of their own with back-fires, too. So there's also that factor.

Originally posted by Robtard
Spartan's have spears and javelins; they have a further reach than those unreliable canons and are 700% more accurate. There's a reason why during sea-battle, the ships would get as close as possible (within several feet) before opening fire on each other. No aim and no range.

Pirates likely kill 2/3rds of their own with back-fires, too. So there's also that factor.

Just where do you get these "facts" and "statistics" from.

Hollywood.

Originally posted by Robtard
Hollywood.

If we're using Gerard's Spartans, then they use their spears to pole-vault from the shore line 100 ft away onto the deck of the pirate ship, while dodging and deflecting gunfire with their swords and pectoral muscles the entire time. 😎

Originally posted by Enyalus
If we're using Gerard's Spartans, then they use their spears to pole-vault from the shore line 100 ft away onto the deck of the pirate ship, while dodging and deflecting gunfire with their swords and pectoral muscles the entire time. 😎

Don't even have to do that. One thrown spear could sink the ship.