technically hell is simply being away from god's presence.. dont sound so bad unless you think that is an excuse for everyone in hell to beat and torture each other which only the weak need to worry about but your dead and a spirit.. also its really one's own choice if you end up in there... i hear the biblical cosmic secret is to not ask for forgiveness but actually ask to not be there but with god..
Originally posted by Wild Shadow
why would you fear hell since it isnt even a consequence of the bible that is just something churches and the vatican tell ppl with no shred of biblical reference unless you count revelations.. which many scholars till this date dispute it when compared to the rest of the bible.
"Then shall he say also unto them on the left hand, Depart from me, ye cursed, into everlasting fire, prepared for the devil and his angels."
That's the KJV of Matthew 25:41.
"And thou, Capernaum, which art exalted to heaven, shalt be thrust down to hell....And in hell he lift up his eyes, being in torments, and seeth Abraham afar off, and Lazarus in his bosom."
That's the KJV of Luke, (chapters 10 and 16), which originally reads as Hades and not Hell, but Luke was Greek so that's understandable.
Not a Christian, but did want to point out that there's biblical evidence for Hell besides Revelations. 😛
the actual translation for hell would be sheol not hades or hell.. sheol which means mankind's common grave where all are dead or resting away simply from god's presence which some take it as hell.. making it is the worse thing that can happen..hence referred to as hell.
anyways cant dispute the whole god sending you into the flames but i can completely refute the concept by using original text from the old testament and its original translation.. 📖
also an apostle talking and spouting doesn't make it biblical truth unless it comes straight from the divine beings like angels spirits.. main prophets like moses, emmanuel... god etc etc..
so luke, john and whomever can say whatever they want they don't know squat of the after life nor gods temperament nor is it true..
just my two cents.. also like to point out by then the romans had seriously influenced christian beliefs with hades and the concept of the after life of torment..
Yes, to all three questions, only on the condition that I would get away scott free with no consequences. I mean, I'm a veteran of the OIF (Operation: Iraqi Freedom) "war" and I did what I had to do while I was there for 5 months: kill or be killed.
My conscience would be just fine, especially after becoming a billionaire.
Originally posted by Impedimenthow many iraqi terrorists did you kill ?
Yes, to all three questions, only on the condition that I would get away scott free with no consequences. I mean, I'm a veteran of the OIF (Operation: Iraqi Freedom) "war" and I did what I had to do while I was there for 5 months: kill or be killed.My conscience would be just fine, especially after becoming a billionaire.
i never blew you up and i also like to think i wasnt directly responsible for you being blown up.. i simply loaded the cannon tube and yelled fire.. if some one is to take the kill count it should be the guy who pulls the firing chord..
also their needs to be a distance to consider killing some one personally..
for example what if i am firing from a mile away i cant see who or what i am shooting how does that count.. it could be a number of the other battery lines..
Originally posted by Wild Shadowthen you count the ones that you do see that youve killed. maybe you coulda got an award that you shot down the most terrorists in the history of the US military.
i never blew you up and i also like to think i wasnt directly responsible for you being blown up.. i simply loaded the cannon tube and yelled fire.. if some one is to take the kill count it should be the guy who pulls the firing chord..also their needs to be a distance to consider killing some one personally..
for example what if i am firing from a mile away i cant see who or what i am shooting how does that count.. it could be a number of the other battery lines..
congrats to wild shadow. here you go son you have earned it. you have done a great service and commitment to your country and you deserve this medal. clapping
Originally posted by chomperx9pretty sure i didnt say that nor imply that.. but, yeh. pretty much hit it on the head with that.
so i can go in the military just stand around let everyone else do the work and they will still pay for my college ? hmmm i might look into it
some one like you i recommend warehouse job in the military i think you fit just fine