DBZ more powerful than you think...

Also, Frieza was like, twenty times Vegeta, Gohan, and Krillian. And even when he doubled his power level going to second form, his speed didn't amp all that much.

It's only when he got up to fourth form that everyone was practically standing still.

Originally posted by carver9
Anybody that knows ANYTHING about DBZ should know that the more powerful you are the more durable, stronger, and faster you are.

Using USSJ Trunks, not really the best argument to prove anything, when he's the only one, and uses a transformation that specifically lowers speed.

King Kandy, can you check my work on the mass of King Kai's planet?

I haven't taken physics in forever, and trying to do solve algebra with typing is a complete mess every time. Maybe i'll look over it later, but your guess is probably as good as mine--we know for a fact that your answer is wrong, but I can't identify at first glance where the part that was wrong is.

Originally posted by Kento
Using USSJ Trunks, not really the best argument to prove anything, when he's the only one, and uses a transformation that specifically lowers speed.

Perhaps, but is it said Trunks has more ki or is he just stronger physically? He buffs himself up to give himself strength, and it's possible he would've been slower than Cell anyway.

It wasn't just physical strength, his energy was stronger as well.

Yea, you're right..Just went back to re-read that part. One would think Piccolo would've noticed being he is part Kami, and was smarter than most to begin with when it comes to fighting.

Originally posted by Kento
Yea, you're right..Just went back to re-read that part. One would think Piccolo would've noticed being he is part Kami, and was smarter than most to begin with when it comes to fighting.

Maybe it was one of those things where only a person who somewhat knew how the Super Saiyan form worked, and was actually experiencing the phenomenon, could notice it.

i still think there flying speed could be FTL since saiyan saga goku is at least speed of sound in flying speed

Originally posted by King Kandy
Cool I guess USSJ Trunks was faster than Cell then (since Cell admitted he was more powerful).

Not a good example since Cell admitted that going buff would take away from their speed.

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Cell even shows this when he buffs up. Not a good example at all since it was explain WHY Trunks wasnt as fast as cell.

Originally posted by Kento
Because he was moving faster than Nappa he has to be twice as fast? If he was twice as fast, he wouldn't of had to double his own speed to catch Nappa.

Are you referring to flying, the place where DBZ sucks ass. It was pretty obvious that Goku was twice as fast since Nappa was unable to touch Goku at all and danced around his attacks.

Originally posted by carver9
Not a good example since Cell admitted that going buff would take away from their speed.

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Cell even shows this when he buffs up. Not a good example at all since it was explain WHY Trunks wasnt as fast as cell.

Originally posted by carver9
Are you referring to flying, the place where DBZ sucks ass. It was pretty obvious that Goku was twice as fast since Nappa was unable to touch Goku at all and danced around his attacks.

Originally posted by Kento
😬 There isn't really any proof that their movement speed is as far below their combat speed as you say just to suit your argument....Their flying speed is how they hit somebody and get behind them to hit them again which you think is so fast. And their movement speed how they are able to fight faster than they eye can see...

There's so many example about combat speed != travel speed. Kenshiro could punch so fast but his running speed is completely sux just like when he wants to save Mamiya's village from Raoh (He ran like a normal person.) and Saint Seiya where Seiya can punch at speed of light but on the other hand he and the other bronze saints ran like a normal person when they want to save Athena. Onime no Kyo who was stated by Kamijyo himself to fight at speed of light but he run from goyomon to other goyomon, and when he ran, it takes 1 hour to run from Hotaru's goyomon to Saishi and Saisei's goyomon.

Originally posted by Kirikaze Fuuma
There's so many example about combat speed != travel speed. Kenshiro could punch so fast but his running speed is completely sux just like when he wants to save Mamiya's village from Raoh (He ran like a normal person.)

Originally posted by Kirikaze Fuuma
Onime no Kyo who was stated by Kamijyo himself to fight at speed of light but he run from goyomon to other goyomon, and when he ran, it takes 1 hour to run from Hotaru's goyomon to Saishi and Saisei's goyomon.

Originally posted by Kento
Was this actually ever stated or is this one of those things people say but nobody has proof of? Plus Kyo gets a whole lot faster between his fight with Hotaru, and the end of the series...

The creator of Kyo himself stated this. If you asked about proof of his speed, I don't know how to proof it. But we have seen how many times Kyo actually killed his opponent so fast that people didn't see him moving. And his opponents were cut into pieces.

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Example...

I know what Kyo can do...I was asking if the statement was an actual statement that you can show proof of, or if it's one of those things that people say he said but show nothing of it, or like the whole Kishimoto saying Ninja's can't dodge bullets, which isn't what Kishi said.

Originally posted by Kento
I know what Kyo can do...I was asking if the statement was an actual statement that you can show proof of, or if it's one of those things that people say he said but show nothing of it, or like the whole Kishimoto saying Ninja's can't dodge bullets, which isn't what Kishi said.

I'll search for the scan.

About lightspeed statement, I got the info from moviecodec. Plus Mike ever said about that too (Even though he also said there's no proof about it...) link