Mara vs Jango Fett

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Maybe Mace meant "If I let my guard down he could kill me in less than a second."

But... well, we saw what happened.

shoes is just trolling 😂

at least i hope so, for the sake of his credibility. 😐

Originally posted by Shoes
Based on the statement above, it is.

THen the statment is wrong. Movie>IU statements.

Right. I suppose Obi-Wan > Maul too, right?

Not even similar and you know it. After all Maul did defeat Obi-Wan and we have OU sources confirming him to be the better dueler such as the script.

I don't have Shatterpoint on me right now, but if you would so kindly read the opening page or two, you would see how that can be constructed as PIS.

... Its not PIS. There is no proof other than a IU quote supporting this theory, while all the rest of the evidence shows Mace Windu to be able to defeat Jango including his battle with him.

So using a SINGLE PHRASE from inside Mace Windu's head in a novel, you are trying to turn multiple MOVIE fights into PIS????

Shoes, have you lost your mind? Cause you are swiftly losing your credibility.

lol nerdrage

Originally posted by truejedi
So using a SINGLE PHRASE from inside Mace Windu's head in a novel, you are trying to turn multiple MOVIE fights into PIS????

Shoes, have you lost your mind? Cause you are swiftly losing your credibility.

I have credibility?
😏

shoes reminds me of //s\\

wait... mmm

What does //S\\ do?

what you do! 313

What do I do?

you do whatchu wanna do boy! *snaps fingers*

/offtopic

See, what ares and TJ fail to understand, is that novels = canon and that Mace =/= Mara.

THen the statment is wrong. Movie>IU statements.

Not even similar and you know it. After all Maul did defeat Obi-Wan and we have OU sources confirming him to be the better dueler such as the script.

LOLSHIT. Ares... there are so many things wrong with what you just said there, I'm not even going to waste my time on someone with reading comprehension skills of your caliber, because it's evident that you understand the novel better than the author. Better than GL. Here is where your argument fell apart:

... Its not PIS.

Explain to me how the above statement is, as you put it, wrong. Futhermore, explain to me what you think PIS is.

In my dreams, the purple flare of my blade sizzles the gray hairs of Dooku's beard, and in the critical semisecond it takes Jango Fett to aim and fire, I twitch that blade and take Dooku with me into death.

Jango Fett bristles with weapons. An instinctive killer: the deadliest man in the galaxy. Jango can kill me in less than a second. I know it. Even if I had never seen Kenobi's report from Kamino, I can feel the violence Jango radiates: in the Force, a pulsar of death.

Both of these statement confirm Jango's ferocity. Both of these statements are completely valid. Both of these statements directly contradict your argument. You are not GL. You cannot bend the SW universe to your liking. Perhaps you should prove Mara's superiority. These are Windu's thoughts. Allow me to reiterate:

Mace > Mara.

The man was good, Mace had to admit. Very good, and more than once the
Jedi had to parry desperately to turn a bolt aside.

Originally posted by Shoes
See, what ares and TJ fail to understand, is that novels = canon and that Mace =/= Mara.

Lol what you fail to understand is Movies>IU Quotes.

LOLSHIT. Ares... there are so many things wrong with what you just said there, I'm not even going to waste my time on someone with reading comprehension skills of your caliber, because it's evident that you understand the novel better than the author. Better than GL. Here is where your argument fell apart:

My what an argument... I guess I am losing because you aren't even going to bother arguing against my points... Wait a second.

In my dreams, the purple flare of my blade sizzles the gray hairs of Dooku's beard, and in the critical semisecond it takes Jango Fett to aim and fire, I twitch that blade and take Dooku with me into death.

His dream is ****ed up. In the movie he doesn't even hold his Saber to Dooku's throat.
Jango Fett bristles with weapons. An instinctive killer: the deadliest man in the galaxy. Jango can kill me in less than a second. I know it. Even if I had never seen Kenobi's report from Kamino, I can feel the violence Jango radiates: in the Force, a pulsar of death.

Perhaps if he is unarmed. As it is we see the outcome in the movies and saying that a single quote, let alone an IU one, holds precedence over the movies is a direct contradiction of how SW continuity works.
Both of these statement confirm Jango's ferocity. Both of these statements are completely valid. Both of these statements directly contradict your argument. You are not GL. You cannot bend the SW universe to your liking. Perhaps you should prove Mara's superiority. These are Windu's thoughts. Allow me to reiterate:

How do they contradict my argument? Yes Jango could kill Mace Windu in less than a second if Mace cut down Dooku as this quote is heavily implying.

Mace > Mara.

No one said differently. But I may as well ask you to prove it.
The man was good, Mace had to admit. Very good, and more than once the
Jedi had to parry desperately to turn a bolt aside.

K. Cool. He had to "parry desperately" still Jango was killed by Mace Windu. Mara Jade held her own against Darth Caedus. She has got this.

Oh and remember the only reason Mara lost? Caedus had three hands.

Originally posted by ares834
Lol what you fail to understand is Movies>IU Quotes.

Mara < Mace.

And Mace acknowledges that Jango is very skilled. If someone of Mace's caliber needs to parry desperately to turn bolts aside, can you imagine the challenge Mara will face? Without Mace's unparalelled bladework? Without Obi-Wan's Soresu domination?

My what an argument... I guess I am losing because you aren't even going to bother arguing against my points... Wait a second.

-None of your points make sense
-None of your points have any canon to back them up
-You disregard canon should it oppose you

His dream is ****ed up. In the movie he doesn't even hold his Saber to Dooku's throat.

This is his dream; how he would have done it if he could do it agian. Read, then interpret.

Perhaps if he is unarmed. As it is we see the outcome in the movies and saying that a single quote, let alone an IU one, holds precedence over the movies is a direct contradiction of how SW continuity works.

No. Everything above is completely false. We see that Mace has neither the confidence nor speed to cut down Dooku and deflect his shot. We also see that Jango is exceptionally fast, even fast for a master of Vaapad.

No one said differently. But I may as well ask you to prove it.

See below.

Mara Jade held her own against Darth Caedus. She has got this.

To start with, Caedus is not the most powerful sith lord of all time, and Mara did not win. This means absolutely nothing. The man who defeated Sidious holds Jango in high esteem, and more than once he had touble with Jango. Yes, the end result was that Jango was killed, but this doesn't mean that he is incompetent. This does not mean he can't kill Mara, a fraction of Windu.

If you continue to disregard canon, there is no arguing with you. What has Mara done that is so impressive?

What has Mara done that is so impressive?

What has Jango done that puts him above Mara?

Wow, Mace talked about how much of a threat Jango was, but then later kills him in seconds. The action spoke louder than Mace's words.

Originally posted by mattatom
Oh and remember the only reason Mara lost? Caedus had three hands.

This is canon fact.

Mara then, is > than the two-handed version of Caedus. Undeniably so.

Actually,it is simply canon fact that Caedus has three hands.

I wanna read that line with the three hands. Anyone have a copy handy?

Originally posted by Shoes
Mara < Mace.

And Mace acknowledges that Jango is very skilled. If someone of Mace's caliber needs to parry desperately to turn bolts aside, can you imagine the challenge Mara will face? Without Mace's unparalelled bladework? Without Obi-Wan's Soresu domination?

With her bladework that bested Caedus, I can see her easily defeating Jango.

-None of your points have any canon to back them up

Oh but they do. Maul was confirmed to have bested Obi-Wan which was my point.
-You disregard canon should it oppose you

I disregard an IU quote that contradicts the movie... As we all should. Otherwise Revan is really the heart of the force, Jedi of TOR are like children compared to the old masters, Anakin is more powerful than Mace or Yoda... etc.

This is his dream; how he would have done it if he could do it agian. Read, then interpret.

I don't have the book with me... How am I supposed to know he is dreaming it diffrently at this point in time.

[b]No. Everything above is completely false.

Lol no. Movie> IU quote. THIS IS TRUE!
We see that Mace has neither the confidence nor speed to cut down Dooku and deflect his shot. We also see that Jango is exceptionally fast, even fast for a master of Vaapad.

I agree with this. However, had he chosen not to kill Dooku then yes he could have blocked the shots.

To start with, Caedus is not the most powerful sith lord of all time, and Mara did not win.

I never said Caedus was the most powerful sith of all time. But I would argue that he is the second most powerful. And Mara beat him in the saber portion of the duel he had to resort to three hands and a force trick to defeat her.
This means absolutely nothing.

🙄
The man who defeated Sidious

He beat an unpracticed Sidious in a saber duel... Very impressive but defating Caedus in a saber duel is even more impressive.
holds Jango in high esteem,

Honestly, Mace seems to hold every one in high regard. He calls Anakin the mot powerful Jedi and says Kenobi is THE master of the lightsaber.
and more than once he had touble with Jango.

Which while impressive does not guaranteehim a win against Mara Jade.
This does not mean he can't kill Mara, a fraction of Windu.

A fraction... I'll agree that Mace is more powerful but Mara is pretty dang powerful she at rivals him.
If you continue to disregard canon, there is no arguing with you. What has Mara done that is so impressive?

Beat Caedus in a saber duel...

Originally posted by Lord Lucien
I wanna read that line with the three hands. Anyone have a copy handy?

"Lightsaber wounds hurt a lot more than he ever imagined. Jacen screamed. He summoned his own weapon back to his hand (1) and Mara crashed into him, knocking him flat again and pinning him down. Her vibroblade stopped a hand span from his throat as he managed to grab her hair (2) and drag her face nearer and nearer to his lightsaber. She struggled to pull back, hacking at him with the shoto but blocked by his dwindling Force power each time.

Her vibroblade grazed his neck. He fumbled in his belt for a dart. (3)"