Mara vs Jango Fett

Originally posted by ares834
With her bladework that bested Caedus, I can see her easily defeating Jango.

Jango nearly killed Windu. Windu, who defeated Sidious.

I disregard an IU quote that contradicts the movie... As we all should. Otherwise Revan is really the heart of the force, Jedi of TOR are like children compared to the old masters, Anakin is more powerful than Mace or Yoda... etc.

The problem with this is: It doesn't. The novel says that Mace holds Jango in high esteem. The novel says that Jango nearly killed Mace.

The novel also says that Mace killed Jango.
The movie says Mace killed Jango.

I don't see any contradiction. We can't see into Mace's mind in the film; we can in the novel.

I don't have the book with me... How am I supposed to know he is dreaming it diffrently at this point in time.

Then don't argue the point.

I agree with this. However, had he chosen not to kill Dooku then [quote]

Which he didn't...

[quote]yes he could have blocked the shots.

Which he didn't...

But I would argue that he is the second most powerful. And Mara beat him in the saber portion of the duel he had to resort to three hands and a force trick to defeat her.

This is all irrelevant. See above.

He beat an unpracticed Sidious in a saber duel... Very impressive but defating Caedus in a saber duel is even more impressive.

LOLSHIT

Honestly, Mace seems to hold every one in high regard. He calls Anakin the mot powerful Jedi

Where?

and says Kenobi is THE master of the lightsaber.

You wonder why Jango couldn't kill him?

Which while impressive does not guaranteehim a win against Mara Jade.

Mara lost to Caedus, which while impressive, does not guarantee her a win against Jango Fett. See how easy it is to disregard things?

A fraction... I'll agree that Mace is more powerful but Mara is pretty dang powerful she at rivals him.

Really?

Spoiler:
No

Beat Caedus in a saber duel...

1 - Didn't happen
2 - Irrelevant. Sidious > Caedus.

Yeah I don't see Mace and Mara on equal "power" terms.

Shoes: You are basing your entire argument on Windu, not Fett. The problem is, the thread is Janga versus Mara, not Mara vs. Windu.

Please prove your assertation that Jango "almost" beat Mace?

Then please give your incorrect definiton of "almost".

Originally posted by Shoes
[B]Jango nearly killed Windu. Windu, who defeated Sidious.

no he didnt. besides, the movies themselves override what the adaptation states.

Prove that Jango didn't nearly kill Windu by watching the film.

On the other hand:
The man was good, Mace had to admit. Very good, and more than once the
Jedi had to parry desperately to turn a bolt aside.

desperately

Originally posted by Shoes
Prove that Jango didn't nearly kill Windu by watching the film.

why?

On the other hand:
The man was good, Mace had to admit. Very good, and more than once the
Jedi had to parry desperately to turn a bolt aside.

desperately

doesnt mean that he nearly killed him.

Yes it does.

saw that edit biatch.

nope!

I'd say the inclusion of the word "desperately" makes it clear that Jango almost got the better of Windu. Windu still > Jango, but damn, he had a few close calls.

Originally posted by Shoes
Prove that Jango didn't nearly kill Windu by watching the film.

On the other hand:
The man was good, Mace had to admit. Very good, and more than once the
Jedi had to parry desperately to turn a bolt aside.

desperately

I don't have to prove anything. You made the statement. Burden of proof is yours. The word desperate doesn't prove your statement. You need a quote saying that Mace almost lost to Jango, since THAT is your assertation.

Thus Jango is roughly 9/10 of Windu

How strong is Mara?

"desperately parrying" does not necessarily translate into "mace nearly died".

that aside. AotC obi-wan was able to close the distance while deflecting two lines of fire from jango's two blasters. mace struggling with jango's one is fan service.

Originally posted by Shoes
[b]Thus Jango is roughly 9/10 of Windu

How strong is Mara? [/B]

youre such a tool 😂

edit- mara is 11/10ths of mace.

If Mace did not desperately parry, he would have died.

Mace almost died.

Regarding Obi-Wan, is Mara the Soresu god?

youre ignoring the most important factor. would yoda rather bee or a wasp? because as far as i can tell, obi-wan was not the soresu god as of AotC. in fact he wasnt even a soresu master as of AotC.

and furthermore. prove that mara isnt the soresu god.

Prove Mara is.
Yoda would rather... as you put it, wasp.
Obi-Wan was highly proficient, to say the least.

prove that she isnt.
yoda cant see why kids love cinnamon toast crunch.
so is mara, to say the least.

I can't understand what you wrote there.

But what I do understand is that if Obi-Wan was able to block Jango's attacks with relative ease, whereas Mace nearly died to him, that would make Obi-Wan a very skilled Soresu user at AOTC.

shoes made an appeal to me for mercy, and i accept.

someone else can argue for me.

Originally posted by Shoes
[b]Thus Jango is roughly 9/10 of Windu

How strong is Mara? [/B]

How is Jango 9/10 of Mace when Mace clearly had no problem with him.. You did watch Attack of the Clones did you not???