Originally posted by carver9
I know. The wait is worth it though.
No one's done a webcomic by now?
A fan made Vegito vs Brolly and Perfect Cell vs Darbura, and there's some neat Youtube videos like Batman vs Predator, and Batman vs Wolverine.. surely there's tons of fan comics of Superman vs Captain Marvel.
I can't seem to find any, though.. v_v;
Originally posted by carver9
I know. The wait is worth it though.
You'll have to wait for:
-Captain Marvel to be reintroduced in the DCnU.
-Black Adam to be subsequently introduced.
-And the Marvel Family/Shazam mythos to likely be built up
before you'll ever see a Black Adam (or Captain Marvel) / Superman tussle anytime soon.
Originally posted by JakeTheBank
You'll have to wait for:-Captain Marvel to be reintroduced in the DCnU.
-Black Adam to be subsequently introduced.
-And the Marvel Family/Shazam mythos to likely be built upbefore you'll ever see a Black Adam (or Captain Marvel) / Superman tussle anytime soon.
I know but they might make some type of alternate encounter between the two. I guess it will be a long time huh? About 4 to 5 yrs then it won't be the same because of the personality/character change.
Just forget it.
Originally posted by cdtm
No one's done a webcomic by now?A fan made Vegito vs Brolly and Perfect Cell vs Darbura, and there's some neat Youtube videos like Batman vs Predator, and Batman vs Wolverine.. surely there's tons of fan comics of Superman vs Captain Marvel.
I can't seem to find any, though.. v_v;
They did a Superman vs Goku as well. Wizard also put together a Superman and Goku fight that was established by A1 writers.
Originally posted by carver9
I know but they might make some type of alternate encounter between the two. I guess it will be a long time huh? About 4 to 5 yrs then it won't be the same because of the personality/character change.Just forget it.
I'd just like to see the Marvel Family doing...well, just about anything in DC. So long as they don't rehash that Freddy-Shazam shit...facepalm
Originally posted by carver9
Do you not like Freddy as a character?
I like Freddy as Captain Marvel, Jr. Him as Shazam/The new Captain Marvel was stupid, imo. It would have made sense if Trials of Shazam led into an ongoing or if they had Freddy on a team book or something, but it basically just crapped on the mythos. Osiris coming back to life and then depowering Freddy in the pages of Titans was just the nail in the coffin.
But no, Billy Batson is the only right person to be Captain Marvel.
Originally posted by -Pr-
Eclipso is also deathly weakened by sunlight.
This is true, and the lack of sunlight exposure should have resulted in a weakened Superman, but it's also something the writer either wasn't thinking about, or purposely ignored for the sake of story, as he had Superman stomp Lobo several times, and beat Billy so badly he couldn't join a team of heroes to storm Eclipso's stronghold.
Originally posted by JakeTheBank
I like Freddy as Captain Marvel, Jr. Him as Shazam/The new Captain Marvel was stupid, imo. It would have made sense if Trials of Shazam led into an ongoing or if they had Freddy on a team book or something, but it basically just crapped on the mythos. Osiris coming back to life and then depowering Freddy in the pages of Titans was just the nail in the coffin.But no, Billy Batson is the only right person to be Captain Marvel.
I agree to an extent because Freddy is kind of arrogant. I just didn't have a big issue with what happened with Freddy. He needs screen time (even though Cap rarely receive any appearances himself) and a power boost helped that.
I just like the Marvel family overall.
Originally posted by cdtm
This is true, and the lack of sunlight exposure should have resulted in a weakened Superman, but it's also something the writer either wasn't thinking about, or purposely ignored for the sake of story, as he had Superman stomp Lobo several times, and beat Billy so badly he couldn't join a team of heroes to storm Eclipso's stronghold.
Oh, I know. I was just commenting on how Superman wasn't in any way amped by Eclipso the second time around.
I don't know if i trust Loeb to have remembered that.
Originally posted by carver9
I agree to an extent because Freddy is kind of arrogant. I just didn't have a big issue with what happened with Freddy. He needs screen time (even though Cap rarely receive any appearances himself) and a power boost helped that.I just like the Marvel family overall.
Yeah, he was a cocky guy prior to his injury, but once he was crippled, he was forced to become humble. Honestly, the dynamic between Freddy and Billy is actually pretty cool; Freddy got his powers from the same guy who wound up playing a role in the accident which killed his grandpa and crippled him at the same time and there's some simmering resentment for that while at the same time being grateful for the opportunity to be able to walk on his own and even fly.
Mary Marvel's character has been trashed and warped something fierce, though.
Originally posted by JakeTheBank
Yeah, he was a cocky guy prior to his injury, but once he was crippled, he was forced to become humble. Honestly, the dynamic between Freddy and Billy is actually pretty cool; Freddy got his powers from the same guy who wound up playing a role in the accident which killed his grandpa and crippled him at the same time and there's some simmering resentment for that while at the same time being grateful for the opportunity to be able to walk on his own and even fly.Mary Marvel's character has been trashed and warped something fierce, though.
Lol...you didn't like Black Mary?
Originally posted by carver9
Lol...you didn't like Black Mary?
Not really. And I didn't care for the fact that they had Mary give in to temptation, repent, give in again, repent, give in again, and one more time for good measure. They really overdid the whole "seduction of the innocent" angle with Mary and destroyed everything about her, tbh. Worse, her taint rubbed off on Billy, who was cited as being the person on Earth with a soul purer than even Clark. Her last appearance redeemed her somewhat in the Shazam one-shot, but not enough.
Originally posted by JakeTheBank
Not really. And I didn't care for the fact that they had Mary give in to temptation, repent, give in again, repent, give in again, and one more time for good measure. They really overdid the whole "seduction of the innocent" angle with Mary and destroyed everything about her, tbh. Worse, her taint rubbed off on Billy, who was cited as being the person on Earth with a soul purer than even Clark. Her last appearance redeemed her somewhat in the Shazam one-shot, but not enough.
Hhhmmm, didnt think about it like that. I liked the scene when they had her and Adam in the church talking and Adam was explaining what his powers made him do and how having his powers would bring misery in her life.
I also like her team up with Darkseid but the stories that came along with it wasn't so great. I think the stories had potential, the writers they had putting these stories together didn't do a good job. If they would have used someone like Pak (lol): the stories would have came out much better.