Call of Duty: Black Ops

IW got the respct over Treyarch because IW push boundaries, ive no doubt that they did the VERY bst work they could on the IW Engine for the games graphics, and it shows, MW2 was/is stunningly beautiful.

Treyarch on the otherhand? with their nigh on limitless resources in activision and AAA status DIDNT do the best they could possibly do. The best they could possibly do would have been to go next door and borrow the IW2 Game engine THEN blend all their own uber motion cap work in and tweak tweak tweak. But they didnt, they used an inferior engine and tweaked that into a slightly less inferior one thus giving us an inferior game.

If 3arc really wanted to break boundaries and step out of IWs shadow, on the next release, 6 months into developement they'll hire 30 extra staff and OPTIMIZE the 3 versions independently. Then they'll be seen as industry leaders (like crytek optimizing all 3 versions of crysis 2 for each system) instead of shadow lurking sideliners to IWs stardom.

Dont get me wrong, im having a blast on BOps right now, but i couldn't honestly sit and tell someone "this is the best they could have done with the time/money/resources they have" i AM however waiting eagerly for MW3..why? because i forsee yet more boundary stepping.

IW gets the respect because they created the CoD franchise.

Also, Black Op's uses the same engine as Modern Warfare 2.

IW got their asses sued by Activision 😛
Then IW sued back
Now they have legal issues.
While MW3 is rumored to be in development, people are saying IW is too screwed to pull anything else out.

i really doubt that means anything. somehow, that game is going to come out. its too much money to not, regardless of how many legal issues there are.

Originally posted by Phoenix3068
IW got their asses sued by Activision 😛
Then IW sued back
Now they have legal issues.
While MW3 is rumored to be in development, people are saying IW is too screwed to pull anything else out.

IW didn't get sued by Activision.

The founders of IW got fired by Activision (because they own IW).

Those founders sued Activision for not receiving royalties. Activision countersued them.

The company IW did not get sued. They might have problems releasing a game soon because a lot of employees left the company but they are not in any sort of legal issues. Activision is.

But it doesn't hurt the brand because Activision owns the brand Call of Duty.

Blah blah blah, point is legal issues take a toll on the game release.

Originally posted by Smasandian

Also, Black Op's uses the same engine as Modern Warfare 2.

no it doesn't it uses an upgraded WaW engine, it doesn't Infinity Engine

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IW_engine

http://xbox360.ign.com/articles/100/1003728p2.html

Originally posted by Juk3n
no it doesn't it uses an upgraded WaW engine, it doesn't Infinity Engine

All of the CoD games after CoD4 used the same engine with some upgrades here and there.

It's plainly obvious that it does too.

Character models look the same in all games and the static environments look the same. Also, the super good frame rate the engine provides is present in all games that use it.

Originally posted by Smasandian
It's plainly obvious that it does too.

Character models look the same in all games and the static environments look the same. Also, the super good frame rate the engine provides is present in all games that use it.

Indeed.

Originally posted by Phoenix3068
There is plenty of difference.

First of all, I think Infinity Ward has only made one pre-Y2K CoD (not sure but I think someone said they did CoD 2 or something.) Anyways, aside from that Infinity Ward makes Modern CoD. They're better with graphics. They use more modern guns that give us an infinite amount of fun.

Treyarch has so far only made pre-Y2K games. Involving WWII, the Vietnam War, etc. While MW2 is about shooting and high-tech gear, Black Ops is more about History.

That's right people it's a conspiracy! Treyarch is forcing kids to LEARN!!!! ROARRRRRRRRRRR!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

anyways, the two different companies have different equipment. They have the same controls for a reason but you can't judge a game's resemblance through control use sense Halo Reach and Halo 3 used a slightly different set up.

Well I'm going to stop my rants 😄 CoD is awesome, later.

Difference in guns is hardly a noteworthy difference to me. Especially when Modern Guns are fully accessible in the Multiplayer. It's not as though the Guns that IW focused on in MW change game play in anyway. The strategy is still the same...,run, take corners and point and shoot. It's not like, Ghost Recon where the equipment drastically changes gameplay formula that COD uses.

The only two noticeable difference i see between this years COD and MW2 is the pop and lock feature that allowed to snap onto enemy targets. The other difference was that IW decided to do away with respawning enemies in MW2. Other than these two differences they are the same game. As for graphical capability...,i suppose that's subjective because there are parts of Black-ops that look FAR better than MW1/MW2. Although there are things about MW2 that look better than Black-ops.

I really don't think there is any more focus on history than any other COD games with Black-ops. If anything it's probably the least educational. It's not like the older titles..,Big Red One where the game was as much a history lesson as it was a game.

Anyone having trouble with the matchmaking? The game has been "waiting for 11 more players" for 10 minutes on Ground War.

The only things I can enjoy in Black Ops are the zombies and the single player. Matchmaking is broken as hell. Mostly everyone is spamming RCs (those little exploding toy cars of doom) which are annoying and enemy players can spawn right next to you and last I checked from other games with matchmaking, you would have to spawn far enough from your opponents so it can be oh I don't know, fair! One guy spawned so close to me, he knifed me.

spawning, rc cars, hit detection, ALL NEED TO BE FIXED. this shit makes the game hard to play online, and not because i suck...

I like the Leap to Prone but I think there should be a Slide to Crouch too -.-

PC version doesnt have a lot of AC cars, the spawn points are annoying at times but is seems the console version is worst.

I'm loving one in the chamber.

YouTube video

Originally posted by RE: Blaxican
Anyone having trouble with the matchmaking? The game has been "waiting for 11 more players" for 10 minutes on Ground War.

Yeah I am too. It's actually taking longer for most matches to load then it does to actually participate in them for me, though I have mostly been doing the special gun modes (don't know what theyre called; they're the oens where you have to unlock the next gun with each kill, and where you only have a single bullet and three lives).