Call of Duty: Black Ops

Started by Zack Fair9 pages

It was stupid having snipers running around quick-scoping people. It took away the whole "sniping" strategy. I am glad snipers got nerfed, they always felt retarded to me.

Now what I find extremely annoying is the knife. Basically everyone has commando and that is annoying as ****. If they are going to keep the range as it is they should at least make it so if you shoot them you can actually kill them as well. As it stands is just plain stupid to watch a sprinter run towards me as I fire at him knowing I am not missing and just die because the bullets didn't register because of the huge lunge.

I like Black Ops maps better than MW2 except for that horrible idea known as Noobtown. Also the killstreaks are no where near as broken as MW2. Game Ending nuke? You've got be fkn kidding me.

Originally posted by Hammerhans
[B]MW, MW2, Call of Duty World at War, and Black Ops basically look the same,

No, they don't. At all. MW2 looks wayyy better than all of them.

Now lets be honest here, Black Ops has more closed quarters fighting than MW2, hence why the snipers are so redundant now.

That's not a good thing, it's a bad thing. If you're going to have a class in the game that is only useful at extreme ranges, then put it maps where it can have a chance. There's no reason to even have the class if it's going to suck on every map in every game type. That's what we in the gaming world call "broken".

Close quarters as far as I can tell equals more intense fighting which equals a faster gameplay, there is always action in black ops, non stop almost, you hardly need to look for more than 10 secs to find people. Thats my take on it.

Except it's not because the only thing that poor line of sight = is corner camping.

And lets talk about the sound, I use surround sound on my system and I find it MUCH more accurate than in MW 2, I have been banned on 7 servers, called a cheater in countless others simply cause of the superb sound that this game has, so many times I have heard someone coming up from behind closer... closer... and BAM I do a 180 degree turn and knife the sucka, now thats fun. also around corners and such, I hear them and start shooting just as they come around or sometimes even before, I just love that, it gives me the edge so many times.

The sound was so terrible in the game that they had to actually make a patch for it to be louder. Even now, by the game creators' own admission, it's still not as loud as MW2's is. So I dunno what you're talking about.

But lets talk about the line of sight, what I like about that is the fact that it gives you options. In MW 2 you not only had more open maps but you also had STOPPING POWER (bullets do MUCH more damage), what that dose is that the guy that spots his opponent first will get a kill as long as he can aim (and the rifles in MW2 have less recoil making shooing even easier) so its MUCH easier to get kills.

And this is what the noobs are complaining about, they used to be able to kill as soon as theyd spot someone, and the campers man they loved this aswell.

You made two statements that aren't related. How does "I love close quarters because it gives more options (which isn't true. It just encourages people to hide in corners), correlate to "stopping power takes less skill".

Now in my opinion its more skill based, you can get shot at and survive to a greater extent,

It's intresting that you call that "more skilled based", considering that what that basically means is that any noob that gets caught with his pants down has a better chance of surviving even though he should have been dead to rights.

And it makes snipers useless because the short line of sights means that you don't have enough time to aim for the sweet spot, and you can't quick scope because they'll survive. Just because something is hard, and broken, doesn't mean that it is therefore a good thing. There's a line between "requires skill" and "unbalanced".

I can tell you only from my own experience that campers are something I have seen only less of after the change from MW2 to Black Ops.

And regarding the sound: Loud dose not equal good in anyway, its the "positioning locator" in that regard its much more precise than in the previous games, it's almost as good as in Counter Strike and Battlefield games, what I mean by this is I can almost aim with my eyes closed if the map was big and open and an enemy was running around there. I hope you know what I am talking about now.

Regarding the stopping power and line of sight. Let me try to explain it better.

In a more open map which are seen in MW2 you would have more time to shoot at enemys because you would see them for longer periods of time, there would not be so many guys that got away if you were to open fire, because its open and you have more time to put damage on them. now add in stopping power aswell. What we end up if is spot = no escape as long as the shooter can aim somewhat, and lets face it everyone can aim after 1 hour of playing somehwhat...

So even people who are not considered good by themselves or others will have a good chance of killing by just aiming in the direction of the opponents and they will have time to keep the fire up for longer periods of time because the maps allow it.

Now in black ops the maps are tighter, which means there is less time to kill after first spot, and no stopping power either which means sometimes you will have to use the entire magazine and then some to just kill one person should a cat and mouse ensue.

What this also means is that it will allow the person who got spotted to come up with a response and counter the attack, this is much more true in black ops than in MW2, and this also will come down to who is better aswell, if the spotted guy is really good he will kill the one who saw him even if he got spotted first more often than not.

And if you look at counter strike for example this is even more true, its not just about who sees who first its also about how to counter the attacks, what plan and diversion you come up with, set yourself into the mind of the opponent and do the unexpected, use tactic and planning coupled with good aiming and fast reflexes rather than just shooting at things that you see moving.

"any noob that gets caught with his pants down has a better chance of surviving"

Yes but if the guy that is shooting at him fails to kill him even though he saw him first and then dies himself, well... then we have a case of not just one noob but two. A good player should win if he spots first against a noob, because he will have shot him, done more damage and be ready to kill him of with either a flash or stick or whatever, because when you get shot, you first look whos shootinng at you or try to get away, while the other guy is only thinking about how to finish the job, if he fails that, then hes no better than the guy he was shooting at in the first place.

Originally posted by RE: Blaxican
MW1 has horrid graphics compared to now, yeah.

Just like, Final Fantasy 7's graphics were the bomb ten years ago, they're shit now.


Yeah Final Fantasy VII does look like shit now, because it was made when playstation first came out. MW2 does in no way look light years better than MW or Black Ops, it looks moderately better, but to say that MW and Black Ops graphics suck? Just wow...

BO graphics dn't suck at all, infact the character animation and motion Cap is better then MW2. But MW2 is just slicker, environs look better, textures are better, the sound is better, the gameplay is slicker, smoother more refined. These should get better with each new itteration of a franchise, they haven't here.

Not to mention 3ARC really phoned in th PS3 version, Infinity never had a problem optimizing..and having 15fps on a next gen console multiplayer is embarressing, especially when you have nigh-on-unlimited funds and limitless resources.

The difference between MW1 and MW2 was a noticable difference, a very noticable step up in quality all round a 2 year improvement. But i can't say the same Black ops. Thats not the same as saying it's ugly.

Originally posted by RE: Blaxican
It is slow compared to the Modern Warfare games. Because every map has horrible line of sight (something they did to make it harder for snipers), 99% of the matches consist of surprise attacks and camping.

The graphics are Modern Warfare 1 level graphics, if that. They look like shit, compared even to MW2, and the textures are horrible. Halo Reach also blows them out of the water.

The weapons are the same in the sense that an M60 is virtually no different from any of the other LMG's. The AK is virtually no different from any of the other assault rifles, etc. If you're going to argue that an AK is different from an M16 because the M16 has burst fire, than you're missing the point.

Also, sniper rifles are virtually useless now, sans the second to last one, and that is something that nearly the entire community has argued about. The knife is also broken.

Thanks for the follow up Blax. At least you followed what I meant.

One game that needs an update is World At War

keep telling you that you don't have the map packs when cleary that they are friggan are on your Hard drive.

I took the liberty to look at Modern Warfare 1, 2 and Black Ops. I tried to find as identical maps and settings as possible using the best graphics the games offer at highest resolution. and recreated the scene for each game, so we get close up of the models and stuff. and to be perfectly honest they look about the same each with itøs own special setting.

Modern Warfare 1 has the color and style that is very middle eastern looking, Iraq/Afghanistan

Modern Warfare 2 is more neutral looking, high on contrast and in general just very modern looking.

Black Ops has a warmer color scheme in general, very suiting for the Vietnam/Cuba setting. To say one looks better than the other is not really fair as they all try to achieve different things. I could also post a screenshot of World at War, but to I forgot about that one, but that again has a different look, very brownish/dark which works good for a WW2 setting. If they took all 3 games and put them in the same map with same setting, they could all look pretty much the same.

As I only have 11 posts under my belt so far I do not have the option to posts direct links or pictures so here is a "broken" link just connect the first two letters of the link (H and T) and it should work. Or better right, you repost the link for me.

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Originally posted by Hammerhans
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Fixed.

From that pic, MW2 looked best, judging by the facial graphics.

Btw, norsk?

MW2 does look best. The textures look better.

Originally posted by Morridini
[QUOTE=13200847]Originally posted by Hammerhans
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Fixed.[/QUOTE]

Now what the hell? I clearly put url tags on it earlier, should have rechecked before the 15 min edit limit had expired. Should work now.

Originally posted by Morridini
Fixed.

From that pic, MW2 looked best, judging by the facial graphics.

Btw, norsk?

I am playing that right now best game i ever played . Is Call of duty black OPS any better ?

Just got Black Ops, and I must say, it seems kinda hard.

During the car chase on the second level (prison escape), I kept being instant-killed after restarting at the checkpoint. My final solution was to just spray bullets all over the screen hoping that I would somehow hit whoever was shooting me. After a lot of tries it suddenly worked, but I still have no idea where the guy killing me actually was.

I'm almost considering lowering the difficulty to whatever is below Veteran.

Yeah, I rarely play CoD on harder levels just because its so ****ing cheap.

I hate cheap games so that's why I play on easier settings.

Hey add me at the handle: B_B_Kang.

YouTube video

mmm

So long as there's an Elena Siegman song in there, I'm happy.

Who the hell are these people? Where's Dempsey, Richtofen and all that?!

Seriously don't know any of those people?

dude go watch some more movies.

Originally posted by Kazenji
Seriously don't know any of those people?

dude go watch some more movies.

Well, I know a few of them, but what on Earth are they doing in Zombies? Oh well, who cares.