I just finished this and thought it was pretty good. Actually couldn't put it down. I continue to be really frustrated by how no one, especially none of the Jedi, who isn't either a Skywalker or Solo, does anything of significance. Kyp, Kyle, Saba, ect are all really powerful. They don't do jack though. Been hoping it will be remedied in future books, but I've been hoping that since the Dark Nest books, when it really began.
Why don't think have Sekot come out and own some shop on Abeloth and the Sith?
Why doesn't Raynar re-assume control of the Killicks? Daala is off the Order's back just like that. The Jedi also then have the ability to fight the Sith. Without the Dark Nest, there shouldn't be any problems. At minimum, he could at least use his super-powered Force abilities to own up when needed from time to time.
Originally posted by truejedi
1. I really like the Vestera and Ben romance. Its really, really well-written. I keep hoping Vestera turns. I am actually worried if she was faking being poisoned at the end to get Ben away from helping Luke when the Sith turned on him. even then: Maybe she was trying to keep her sith people from killing him when they killed Luke.
I agree with you here. Best part of the book in my opinion. Glad the author was a woman, as all the relationships in the book were handled better than normal in my opinion.
Originally posted by truejedi
2. During that battle: Ben said he had never seen his father fight that hard, or somethign to that extent. Now he saw what we have considered a "bloodlusted" luke fight Caedus. So was luke not going all out against Caedus?
I'm not really sure what I thought here. Given how Luke was able to pin Jacen in his chair with what seemed like ease, it's possible I guess. Doesn't make much sense though.
Originally posted by truejedi
3. Really sad about Callista. She deserved a better end. I always hoped to find out what happened to her.
I thought it was cool they brought her back, but she was like 100 at this point. Not exactly ancient. But yeah, when she died, I was like "WTF? That's it?"
Originally posted by truejedi
4. Luke is badass. The "Ben noticed proudly that his father was still winning" , even at the point that it was him against all the Sith AND abeloth. (granted, the details of the fight WERE sketchy, so its hard to know how much to contribute to him, but it was still pretty sweet. They need to explain why attacking the other Jedi killed Abeloth though. That was not very well done. Now he is alone with 4 sith. I hope in the next book, we see an epic battle.)
Vestara's dad took one swing at him. Luke wasn't fighting Abeloth and the Sith single-handily.
Originally posted by truejedi
5. Daala has gone too far. Time for someone to take her out. Shooting an unarmed 11 year old on steps of the Jedi temple? I hate her character like nothing else right now. Plus, she was the one responsible for Tahiri's tape leaking, AND she is probably responsible for the fake Jedi killing Bwatuu, PLUS she is stopping slave revolts? SHe is pure evil. As evil as Caedus ever was RIGHT NOW. These wars that Luke fights NEVER work. The last one was for 2 years of peace. Now they need all out war again to take her out.
She wasn't 11. She was an adult. Twas freakin ridiculous though. I was hoping Kyp would have reached out and shattered the Mando with the Force, but alas, only Skywalkers and Solo's can do anything of significance apparently.
Originally posted by truejedi
6. Speaking of which, it was weird how much attention was paid to slavery in this book. plus the whole freedom fight. Since when was this a problem? It hasn't been mentioned in ANY other books.
Agreed.
Originally posted by truejedi
7. 27.00 is WAY too much money to pay for this book. Lucasarts has lost its collective minds.
Agreed again. WTF
Originally posted by Darth_Glentract
I just finished this and thought it was pretty good. Actually couldn't put it down. I continue to be really frustrated by how no one, especially none of the Jedi, who isn't either a Skywalker or Solo, does anything of significance. Kyp, Kyle, Saba, ect are all really powerful. They don't do jack though. Been hoping it will be remedied in future books, but I've been hoping that since the Dark Nest books, when it really began.
The NJO Jedi Council is a joke without Luke around.
Why don't think have Sekot come out and own some shop on Abeloth and the Sith?
Why doesn't Raynar re-assume control of the Killicks? Daala is off the Order's back just like that. The Jedi also then have the ability to fight the Sith. Without the Dark Nest, there shouldn't be any problems. At minimum, he could at least use his super-powered Force abilities to own up when needed from time to time.
Again, the NJO Jedi Council is a joke without Luke around.
I agree with you here. Best part of the book in my opinion. Glad the author was a woman, as all the relationships in the book were handled better than normal in my opinion.
Yeah. I really want Ben and Vestara to hook up by the end of FOTJ.
I'm not really sure what I thought here. Given how Luke was able to pin Jacen in his chair with what seemed like ease, it's possible I guess. Doesn't make much sense though.
Luke was very, very angry when he fought Caedus.
I thought it was cool they brought her back, but she was like 100 at this point. Not exactly ancient. But yeah, when she died, I was like "WTF? That's it?"
Castilla wasn't Abeloth. Abeloth just absorbed Castilla. Which makes me wonder; what happens to Castilla when that happens?
Oh, and remember that opening part of FOTJ: Outcast in italics? Was that referring to Castilla?
Vestara's dad took one swing at him. Luke wasn't fighting Abeloth and the Sith single-handily.
It seems to imply that Luke did not detect the swing until Ben told him. Good thing for Luke that Ben was there.
She wasn't 11. She was an adult. Twas freakin ridiculous though. I was hoping Kyp would have reached out and shattered the Mando with the Force, but alas, only Skywalkers and Solo's can do anything of significance apparently.
I really want that mando that shot Kani to die a slow and painful death. Oh, and Daala as well.
Agreed.
Agreed again. WTF
I also don't get why Daala wants to put down the revolts.
Question is, why did Callista go to the Maw in the first place? Was she the first to be 'called' there? Did she go crazy like some of the other Jedi in this series?
The murder on the Temple doorstep might possibly leave a sour taste in the public's mouth. And when the Sith are revealed to the public as well, mass hysteria and guess whose gonna have to turn to save the GA?
You might like this video:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1U-F53FY1fg
Music comes from a classic war film
Originally posted by Eminence
How exactlySpoiler:Wookiepedia doesn't give a whole lot of details.
does Abeloth die? Fight? Sabotage?
Spoiler:
Luke encounters Abeloth to find that Abeloth has taken the form of Castilla. After he has a big internal dramatic conflict with his inner feelings, Luke decides that Abeloth needs to be cut down.So Jedi Master Luke and 3 of his sith "allies" attack Abeloth while the hundreds of sith "allies" form some sort of Force web learned from Dathomir that weakens Abeloth. Vestara feigns weakness to distract Ben while the sith try and kill Luke. Ben fights Gavar and starts winning. Luke and company drive Abeloth back and Abeloth leaves, taking the form of Dyon. But Luke isn't fooled and cuts Abeloth down. Abeloth dies, although we don't know if she'll return or not.
Originally posted by Nephthys
You're on ignore,twityou big dummy! I can't see your posts beyond the initial click
Well, maybe you should click on my post, because I was trying to tell people how Abeloth dies. I don't see why you'd want to ignore that just because it's from me.
Oh, and I don't get the point of the ignore function. I've tried it before, but I can't resist the temptation of reading people's posts. 🙂 If you don't X post, just don't read it. To ignore ALL of my posts is stupid since a lot of my posts wouldn't (or shouldn't) annoy you, such as me telling you about FOTJ: Allies.
Obviously, I can not respond to whatever Nothing posted so I'll just wonder aloud at what people think Abeloth's position in the Mythos rankngs is. If it took Luke and others to fight her when she was weakened, would people say if would have been different with just a 1 on 1 with Luke, or would he have still beat her ass?
Originally posted by Nephthys
Obviously, I can not respond to whatever Nothing posted so I'll just wonder aloud at what people think Abeloth's position in the Mythos rankngs is. If it took Luke and others to fight her when she was weakened, would people say if would have been different with just a 1 on 1 with Luke, or would he have still beat her ass?
Luke might lose to Abeloth in a one on one fight.
Oh, and Nephthys, you are so awesome! If you respond to this by saying "Hewhoknowsall is awesome", I will give you a reward.
Maybe