Oil spill continues to grow

Originally posted by CadoAngelus
And while all of your post seems to have enlightened me somewhat in the happenings of the "BP Oil Spill", surely the rig was still crewed by Transocean staff. So anything that happened the day of the start of the spill would be linked to whatever Transocean staff did...

can you support this? from what I have seen, it appears that staff took orders from both BP and transocean officials, and that while Transocean themselves had in the past violated saftey protocol, eyewitnesses say it was BP in this particular instance making decisions, even against transocean's advise.

Even if they are technically "Transocean" staff, this would be the same as the rig itself. If the problem can be shown to have been caused by the staff or from negligence in the staffing process, then yes, Transocean would face the culpability. However, it appears that the staff themselves were warning BP about their cut corners policies, including on the day of the accident. Because BP was paying money for the use of the rig, they also assume responsibility for its usage.

Think of it like renting a car. Even if they give you a driver, it is still your responsibility if you break things, so long as it wasn't a problem specifically with the car itself or the driver they provided for you.

Originally posted by CadoAngelus
I'd say BP and Transocean were both as culpable as one another.

no court will agree with you

Originally posted by CadoAngelus
Slightly off on a tangent here: As soons as Transocean officials and high ranking staff realised about the burst pipe they used a maritime law to cover there arses. The law allowed them to class the rig as a sailing ship, which made it so they'd only need to pay 18million compared to what would happen if they were taken to a tribunal and sentenced accordingly.

of course they did, who wants to loose money?

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Originally posted by CadoAngelus
I was under the impression that BP hasn't blamed anyone officially - or if they have, British media hasn't got a hold of it.

No, there was a 3-way blame game shortly after the spill.

Originally posted by Bicnarok
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odd that the picture didn´t show?

try again.

You cut the g off jpg in the first post.

Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
You cut the g off jpg in the first post.

god aquaman is so useless

and that's an overstatement lol

The long term ramifications of this are beyond devestating. Basically all of the plankton in the gulf, which is the base food source for all marine eco systems, is now coated with oil. What this means that the second rung of the food chain can't feed. When those creatures die off the next rung will starve, and so on. The Gulf will basically become a much larger Dead Sea. BP and Transocean should have to pay, and pay, and pay, and then it won't be enough.

Originally posted by Shakyamunison
Why let a good disaster go to waist?

Originally posted by Shakyamunison
No. We want to get the US off of oil dependency, right? No better way to do this then cover all of the gulf coast with oil. If you make a big enough disaster, then we will never drill in the gulf again.

Originally posted by Shakyamunison
If you cap it and clean it up, we will just drill more. You have to get people involved, and no better why to get them involved then to destroy their livelihood. After all, the gulf will eventually return to normal, but without any drilling. The people will have government health care, and welfare.

Originally posted by Shakyamunison
It will be bitter tasting medicine indeed, but when all is said and done, we will be off oil. Sometimes cold turkey is the only answer.

It is a bit of conspiracy thinking, and I almost always shun that way of thinking. But sometimes the shoe fits, and even though it is not as deliberate as I have joked about, above, it just seems like the Obama administration doesn’t want it fixed too quickly.

The Obama Administration seem to sit back and let Obama do the talking, despite the fact that he doesn't know all the facts. They either want him to fail fast, or he's told them the way he wants to do it and it's gonna lead him down a path were he's hated by many for simply not knowing enough.

In fact, in light of the current BP situation, it's been proven that Obama doesn't know what to do. Not long after the pipe burst he was blaming people and not trying to understand the situation.

Originally posted by The Dark Cloud
The long term ramifications of this are beyond devestating. Basically all of the plankton in the gulf, which is the base food source for all marine eco systems, is now coated with oil. What this means that the second rung of the food chain can't feed. When those creatures die off the next rung will starve, and so on. The Gulf will basically become a much larger Dead Sea. BP and Transocean should have to pay, and pay, and pay, and then it won't be enough.

Unfortunately, whereas I agree that this crisis is far bigger than the people involved, everything is about Money. Not only is the local ecosystem devastated by the event, but the entire world. Whales that feed off plankton use the gulf as one of many feeding sites.

The smallest of marine animal is going to be affected. Birds, dolphins, turtles, crabs. A lot of animals with migratory patterns have been hit hard. The impact is going to be felt for years to come, but whether people are going to be more interested in the economic or ecological side? We'll soon find out...

I don't think anybody knows what to do, aside from those rednecks in that video and Symmetric Chaos, because he knows every thing.

They need to plug the leak first, otherwise it will be a never ending clean-up process, though not much cleaning has been done and that shit is going to hit shorelines more and more, which is when bigger problems will start.

Why they can't figure out how to plug it up with all their years of experience and billions in money to throw at the task, is beyond me.

Told ya nobody knows.

Originally posted by RE: Blaxican
Told ya nobody knows.

Which tells me the oil companies didn't properly prepare themselves ahead of time with contingency measures for 'worst case scenarios', before they go/went ahead and started punching holes into the earth.

Or maybe they did, Worst Case Scenario Contingency Plan = pay off politicians, since it's cheaper than fixing the problem.

That is the default WCS of all companies. Haven't you ever seen any pro-environment movie? Corporations are evil.

Don't think I have. Can you name some?

What would a hurricane do? Would it pick up the oil and dump it on the land, like a city? That would be poetic justice.

Originally posted by Robtard
Don't think I have. Can you name some?

the corporation

Originally posted by Shakyamunison
What would a hurricane do? Would it pick up the oil and dump it on the land, like a city? That would be poetic justice.