Juggernaut versus Fred Dukes...

Cain stepped on APC....and flattened it. Oh, and he'd been fused into the ground, and with no way to move, he still ripped his way out.

And Cain wasn't even in X2

Originally posted by Robtard
Closes thing Juggernaut has is him breaking out of concrete, after he was phased into the ground, as far as I recall.

Hand in tank canon is far more impressive, imo.

Juggernaut charges, Dukes charges back and throws his most powerful punch at Juggernaut's face. What happens?

Originally posted by steverules_2
The fact that when he took on Wolverine he didn't get his handed to him via a few headbutts.

Which tells us it was either more shit writing from that god-awful movie, or his fatness changed him, either way, it's irrelevant here. Doesn't make sense that he's durable enough to stop a tank shell, yet a headbutt rocks him.

Unless his head is a weak spot?

Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
I never said his helmet was off, I meant he wore it during his feats.

Still waiting for a screen feat that trumps Dukes stopping a tank shell with his bare hand.

Unstoppability. Still waiting for a feat that tops that.

Originally posted by steverules_2
The fact that when he took on Wolverine he didn't get his handed to him via a few headbutts.

Wolverine wins biscuits

Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
Think outside the box. IF Wolvie had head butted him what then?

Really? You want a guess...am I allowed to base it off the deleted scene? Am I allowed to compare him to comic book juggs?

Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
I asked DDM this via text earlier, lemme try here.

Juggernaut charges, Dukes charges back and throws his most powerful punch at Juggernaut's face. What happens?

Dukes gets trampled. His unstoppability is in his powerset.

Originally posted by Robtard
He's a mutant in the films.

I know this, but he has magical spells. He cast fiendfyre against Kitty. Rewatch the film, dude. He has the Elder Wand, to boot. Dead serious.

Originally posted by Robtard
Wasn't that scene only in the extras?

You'referring to something that I'm not. Wolverine and Juggs fought, outside of the extras, if you even want to consider it fighting. Juggs was not afraid of claw-boy, in the movie. Fatso was.

Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
Juggernaut charges, Dukes charges back and throws his most powerful punch at Juggernaut's face. What happens?

Duke would lose to a charging Juggernaut, considering his powers of momentum. But he'd just get up.

Originally posted by Wei Phoenix
Dukes gets trampled. His unstoppability is in his powerset.

And if Dukes sidesteps as Juggernaut passes and attacks from behind, what then?

Doubt it would effect him

Originally posted by dadudemon
I know this, but he has magical spells. He cast fiendfyre against Kitty. Rewatch the film, dude. He has the Elder Wand, to boot. Dead serious.

You'referring to something that I'm not. Wolverine and Juggs fought, outside of the extras, if you even want to consider it fighting. Juggs was not afraid of claw-boy, in the movie. Fatso was.

Question....Juggs knew about the mutant boys powers, right? The boy who was a power drainer?

Originally posted by steverules_2
Doubt it would effect him

Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
The humans deemed Juggernaut unstoppable, you know.

And if Dukes sidesteps as Juggernaut passes and attacks from behind, what then?

Yeah the humans that were hunting mutants and arresting him and know of him.

Sidestepping and attacking still doesn't hurt him. He's physically invulnerable to pain. Can you even prove that Dukes is smart and fast enough to fight so tactfully?

Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
Magical spells!!!!

Question....Juggs knew about the mutant boys powers, right? The boy who was a power drainer?

He should have. But, he doesn't strike me as the smartest guy, though.

We do know that without his powers, he's just a really big human...probably much stronger than any human...but still just a human.

Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
Dukes fist is far more powerful than an exploding tank shell, dude. If that tank shell hit Juggernaut while he was standing still, what then?

No momentum? It'd probably knock him back but it wouldn't hurt him.

Originally posted by Wei Phoenix
Yeah the humans that were hunting mutants and arresting him and know of him.

Sidestepping and attacking still doesn't hurt him. He's physically invulnerable to pain. Can you even prove that Dukes is smart and fast enough to fight so tactfully?

Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
No, but I can prove that Juggs is an idiot. He charged Kitty while she was standing next to the boy power drainer in X3. Right into the wall. Idiot, yeah.

An invulnerable idiot is still greater than Blob.

Originally posted by Wei Phoenix
No momentum? It'd probably knock him back but it wouldn't hurt him.

Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
Dukes fist is far more powerful than an exploding tank shell, dude. If that tank shell hit Juggernaut while he was standing still, what then?

Pretty sure nothing, he's unstoppable for a reason, you really think people hadn't already tried a tank😬