Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
Yeah, um.....Nothing in the movie indicates this.
Nothing hurt him at all in the movie outside of lightning. All of this is irrelevant because Cain won't be standing still and Dukes is not smart enough to fight the way you are implying he'll do. Cain being an idiot doesn't add to Fred's intelligence.
Originally posted by Wei PhoenixFred knowing his capabilities, also knowing Cain's capabilities, surely he'll know not to take him on head on. This requires an IQ like Gump.
Nothing hurt him at all in the movie outside of lightning. All of this is irrelevant because Cain won't be standing still and Dukes is not smart enough to fight the way you are implying he'll do. Cain being an idiot doesn't add to Fred's intelligence.
Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
Just because guy A beats guy B, and guy B beats guy C, it doesn't mean guy A beats guy C.Juggs high end feat is crashing through concrete walls. Dukes is stopping a tank shell with his bare fist.
Screen feats= Dukes.
Though I disagree with you outcome on this thread, you are correct, above. Ichigo could be Kenpachi in a sword fight, just Shikai form, but he could not beat Nnoirtra, shikai form, but Kenpachi can beat Nnoitra. Because of their respective powersets, of course.
Originally posted by dadudemonI dunno how many times I gotta say this. What is shown trumps what is said.
Easy:C: Being, literally, an unstoppable force.
Screen feats= What we see.
The MVF Golden Rule:
What is seen on screen is canon in these forums. If your character you wish to use has feats/actions/handicaps that contradict what that character did on screen (movie canon), then it is a violation and is illegal. MOVIE FEATS ONLY!
And for the last time, who wrote that about Cain, about being unstoppable? HUMANS.
Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
I dunno how many times I gotta say this. What is shown trumps what is said.Screen feats= What we see.
The MVF Golden Rule:
What is seen on screen is canon in these forums. If your character you wish to use has feats/actions/handicaps that contradict what that character did on screen (movie canon), then it is a violation and is illegal. MOVIE FEATS ONLY!And for the last time, who wrote that about Cain, about being unstoppable? HUMANS.
And when was he not unstoppable? That's right: when his powers were gone.
Unless you make a "powers gone stipulation", then nothing changes.
You have to go by what was seen on screen, not what you want to have happened to fit a specific outcome in a versus thread that you made.
Fact is, Marko is a poor choice in a vesus thread unless you put him up against a powerful empath, a magical user, or a demi-god and above.
Originally posted by dadudemonHere's a fact:
And when was he not unstoppable? That's right: when his powers were gone.Unless you make a "powers gone stipulation", then nothing changes.
You have to go by what was seen on screen, not what you want to have happened to fit a specific outcome in a versus thread that you made.
Fact is, Marko is a poor choice in a vesus thread unless you put him up against a powerful empath, a magical user, or a demi-god and above.
Cain's high end feat: Crashing through a concrete wall. ASSISTED by a helmet.
Dukes high end feat: Stopping a tank shell with his bare hand.
Screen feats....Dukes.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/X_men_the_last_stand
# Vinnie Jones as Cain Marko / Juggernaut: The Juggernaut is a new recruit to the Brotherhood. He is incredibly strong, fast, and once he gains momentum, he becomes next to unstoppable.
NEXT to.
Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/X_men_the_last_stand# Vinnie Jones as Cain Marko / Juggernaut: The Juggernaut is a new recruit to the Brotherhood. He is incredibly strong, fast, and once he gains momentum, he becomes next to unstoppable.
NEXT to.
...wait. If one of the pro juggernaut guys goes on wikipedia now and deletes the "next to" will you admit defeat?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/X-Men:_The_Last_Stand#The_Brotherhood_of_Mutants
Vinnie Jones as Cain Marko / Juggernaut: The Juggernaut is a new recruit to the Brotherhood. He is incredibly strong, fast, and once he gains momentum, he becomes unstoppable.
Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
Here's a fact:Cain's high end feat: Crashing through a concrete wall. ASSISTED by a helmet.
Dukes high end feat: Stopping a tank shell with his bare hand.
Screen feats....Dukes.
while that is a good feat from Dukes, Marko on the oher hand was running at a very high rate of speed when he broke through walls, also when Shadowcat thought she had him by phaseing him through the floor, Marko broke free and was only defeated when he knocked himself out..
and the thing about the helmet does not fly wither..
Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
Juggernaut and Fred Dukes (X Men: Origins) face off in the street outside the childhood home of Jean Grey.Fred Dukes is as he was at the beginning or Origins, still in somewhat decent shape.
The fight takes place in broad daylight, lots of room for Juggernaut to run around and gain forward momentum.
To the death.
your own OP does not state whether or not Marko has on the helmet.. this isn't the comics Juggy wear Prof X or some other high end empath gets him to take his helmet off
Didn't Pyro himself look at Cain's power list while he was in that transport truck? He said once he gains momentum he's unstoppable. And don't say he was assisted by the helmet, if he didn't have enough strength to bust through the wall, he would've just broken his neck/skull inside the helmet.
On top of that, Dukes got dazed by an elbow from Wolverine, and taken out by a headbutt.
RJ, stop grasping at straws.