Juggernaut versus Fred Dukes...

Originally posted by BruceSkywalker
while that is a good feat from Dukes, Marko on the oher hand was running at a very high rate of speed when he broke through walls, also when Shadowcat thought she had him by phaseing him through the floor, Marko broke free and was only defeated when he knocked himself out..

and the thing about the helmet does not fly wither..

your own OP does not state whether or not Marko has on the helmet.. this isn't the comics Juggy wear Prof X or some other high end empath gets him to take his helmet off

Originally posted by KingD19
Didn't Pyro himself look at Cain's power list while he was in that transport truck? He said once he gains momentum he's unstoppable. And don't say he was assisted by the helmet, if he didn't have enough strength to bust through the wall, he would've just broken his neck/skull inside the helmet.

On top of that, Dukes got dazed by an elbow from Wolverine, and taken out by a headbutt.

RJ, stop grasping at straws.

Dukes was stunned by Wolvie, yeah, but Wolvie has that stuff in him, what's it called? Ada- sumthin.

Cain crashing through walls and busting out of concrete still takes a back seat to Dukes stopping an exploding tank shell with his bare hand. Cain never showed that kind of power with his hands.

Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
When did I say anything about his helmet being off?

well a few posts of yours about him being assisted wearing his helmet

Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
Yeah, once he gains momentum he's unstoppable, and Dukes will know that, you think Dukes is gonna charge him like a horny rhino?

Dukes was stunned by Wolvie, yeah, but Wolvie has that stuff in him, what's it called? Ada- sumthin.

Cain crashing through walls and busting out of concrete still takes a back seat to Dukes stopping an exploding tank shell with his bare hand. Cain never showed that kind of power with his hands.

erm, no, Dukes did not display any sort of smarts

Dukes may have been stunned by Logan, but Logan could not stun Juggy

Again, Dukes was scared shitless from the thought of getting stabbed by Wolverine's claws. Juggs, was stabbed and didn't even bleed. Looked like he barely felt it.

Originally posted by BruceSkywalker
well a few posts of yours about him being assisted wearing his helmet

erm, no, Dukes did not display any sort of smarts

Dukes may have been stunned by Logan, but Logan could not stun Juggy

Logan didn't have a chance. He charged Juggs, like an idiot, and never recovered. Had he known Juggs power he wouldn't have done that.

Originally posted by Scythe
Again, Dukes was scared shitless from the thought of getting stabbed by Wolverine's claws. Juggs, was stabbed and didn't even bleed. Looked like he barely felt it.

The rules state that deleted scenes don't count now?

This was discussed a long time ago in another Juggernaut thread, and Mattie decreed that deleted scenes do not count.

Sounds weird, but alrighty.

Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
Yeah, once he gains momentum he's unstoppable, and Dukes will know that, you think Dukes is gonna charge him like a horny rhino?

Dukes was stunned by Wolvie, yeah, but Wolvie has that stuff in him, what's it called? Ada- sumthin.

Cain crashing through walls and busting out of concrete still takes a back seat to Dukes stopping an exploding tank shell with his bare hand. Cain never showed that kind of power with his hands.

You yourself brought up Fred and Cain charging each other.

Originally posted by Wei Phoenix
You yourself brought up Fred and Cain charging each other.

Originally posted by Scythe
Sounds weird, but alrighty.

Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
Yeah, and? Doesn't mean Dukes will be fool enough to do it. Would you, if you knew Juggs power?

I wouldn't fight him in an open area where he has plenty of room to run. I wouldn't fight him at all.

Originally posted by Wei Phoenix
I wouldn't fight him in an open area where he has plenty of room to run. I wouldn't fight him at all.

Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
Sounded weird to me at the time, but it makes sense. There's a reason why they are called deleted scenes.

Well, it works in your favor here, but it's no biggie.

Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
Yeah I was trying to stress that Dukes stopped a damn tank shell with his bare hands, that is being ignored.

Logan didn't have a chance. He charged Juggs, like an idiot, and never recovered. Had he known Juggs power he wouldn't have done that.

i am not ignoring that, besides how exactly is that gonna stop someone that was only stopped by himself?

In your OP you do not even state whether or not Dukes knows about Juggy's power so how can you assume he does/

Originally posted by BruceSkywalker
i am not ignoring that, besides how exactly is that gonna stop someone that was only stopped by himself?

All I am doing is comparing screen feats.

Cain? Best feat was crashing through a concrete wall.

Dukes? Stopping an explosive tank shell (with a sharpened tip, BTW) with his bare hand.

Dukes has the better screen feat.

Originally posted by BruceSkywalker

In your OP you do not even state whether or not Dukes knows about Juggy's power so how can you assume he does/

The tip has nothing to do with it, unless it was stated to be any other type of shell, it was a standard artillery tank shell.

And no, Cain's best feats are whooping Logans ass(something Blob failed to do)

Stepping an a heavily armored personnel carrier and crushing it like cookie dough.

And ripping himself out of the concreted floor, even though he had no way to really move or build up momentum.

Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
This was discussed a long time ago in another Juggernaut thread, and Mattie decreed that deleted scenes do not count.

I vaguely remember saying that. Which thread was it?