Originally posted by SamZED
Deadpool's kicked Colossus off a rooftop, kicked Doc Samson in the face and he felt it, kncoked out Titania, recently punched Moonknight through a wall, Kicked Warpath's face in (back when he was stronger) etc etc Logan's punches arent much harder than Deadpool's. And there's no point comparing them to Spider's. Spider-man's punched THROUGH Ironman's mask, a SHOCKWAVE from his punch shattered pavement in 20 feet radius.
Originally posted by SamZED
There are the once I mentioned above, he's also snapped superhuman's neck to 180' with a punch once, kicked Cable's head through a wall, kicked zombie's head off etc etc. Taskmaster and Cable on many occasions commented how powerful his punches are, dont recall Tasky saying that even about Cap's punches. DP's are definitely close to Logan's.
About kicks...
Logan sent Roughouse to a pool with one kick.
Staggered/arguably dazed Abomination.
Bruised Mister Fantastic.
As I said before, knocked down Savage Hulk.
Kicked a guy's head off... that punk was wearing an exosuit.
Punches?
Wolverine punched ROGUE through a wall.
KO'd Roughouse more than once.
KO'd Caliban.
Made a short work of Domina.
One-shotted Crossbones.
I won't even mention what happened to poor Vanguard...
You're telling me DP's punches are almost as formidable? How so?
Originally posted by Blanket
You think RH is a good judge then?
Roughouse laughed off Spiderman's attempts to kick and punch him and Wolverine put him to sleep three times.
Even if you want to write off Roughouse as a jobber it's at the very least an indication that Spiderman's not > Wolverine in the stopping power department...
I would go on about how many metas and bricks that Logan's rocked with punches but I thought all that would be more or less common knowledge and really just taking up space when we've already seen Logan's punches and kicks do affect Spidey. 😕
Originally posted by jinzinI asked for proof, not Wolverine's personal punching bag going down.
You asker for proof.Roughouse laughed off Spiderman's attempts to kick and punch him and Wolverine put him to sleep three times.
Even if you want to write off Roughouse as a jobber it's at the very least an indication that Spiderman's not > Wolverine in the stopping power department...
I would go on about how many metas and bricks that Logan's rocked with punches but I thought all that would be more or less common knowledge and really just taking up space when we've already seen Logan's punches and kicks do affect Spidey. 😕
Or PIS. I mean, you don't think it sounds wrong that Spider-Man makes a guy laugh that Wolverine can pound out... nevermind that question...
Difference between a couple rocks here and there (even a couple KO's), and Spider-Man consistently putting bricks, and people in the 50+ ton range to sleep.
Oh I agree on that issue. I just find it funny that in every Wolverine thread he is either as fast, as strong, as skilled, as hard a hitter, etc as people that you wouldn't normally... expect him to be.
If it is indeed taking up space though, why are you arguing about it?
Originally posted by Blanket
I asked for proof, not Wolverine's personal punching bag going down.Or PIS. I mean, you don't think it sounds wrong that Spider-Man makes a guy laugh that Wolverine can pound out... nevermind that question...
Difference between a couple rocks here and there (even a couple KO's), and Spider-Man consistently putting bricks, and people in the 50+ ton range to sleep.
Oh I agree on that issue. I just find it funny that in every Wolverine thread he is either as fast, as strong, as skilled, as hard a hitter, etc as people that you wouldn't normally... expect him to be.
If it is indeed taking up space though, why are you arguing about it?
That is proof.. He's not a punching bag in Spiderman's comic, he's not a punching bag in his initiative appearances... Wolverine's the only one who makes him look bad. You don't like it? Tough.
Wolverine's a skilled striker who dropped a brick to literal pieces with a pressure point tap. It's hard to imagine Spiderman hits that much harder than Logan given their comparative histories, especially when Spidey lives in a world like Marvel where guys like Captain America are one shotting bricks every other day of the week.
The only difference is that Wolverine typically uses his claws to effect and doesn't have to rely on straight striking. But when he does he "consistently" shows impressive stopping power.
The only reason it's funny to you is because you apparently place Logan at a much lower level than comics present him to be.. So it's surprising for you but not news for those of us more well informed.
I didn't. 😐
Originally posted by jinzinK. So, how can you use this argument as proof, when it would seem Wolverine>>Spider-Man, but still say Wolverine is not that far behind? There must be a sense of doubt here, no?
That is proof.. He's not a punching bag in Spiderman's comic, he's not a punching bag in his initiative appearances... Wolverine's the only one who makes him look bad. You don't like it? Tough.Wolverine's a skilled striker who dropped a brick to literal pieces with a pressure point tap. It's hard to imagine Spiderman hits that much harder than Logan given their comparative histories, especially when Spidey lives in a world like Marvel where guys like Captain America are one shotting bricks every other day of the week.
The only difference is that Wolverine typically uses his claws to effect and doesn't have to rely on straight striking. But when he does he "consistently" shows impressive stopping power.
The only reason it's funny to you is because you apparently place Logan at a much lower level than comics present him to be.. So it's surprising for you but not news for those of us more well informed.
I didn't. 😐
I realize Wolverine is a more skilled striker, that was never an issue. Is Wolverine one shotting bricks? BTW, Cap is the worst character imaginable to use as a serious argument here. The guy destroyed Hulk, using minscule amount of skill. You would argue that Wolverine hits harder than Cap I imagine, and Wolverine could only dream of destroying Hulk without his claws. At best, he's only knocked Hulk off balance (?).
Impressive maybe, but not on the level of Spider-Man.
K. Everyone on the forum but 4-5 people on the forum are not well informed on purely Wolverine...
You guys are alpha here.
You are. 😐
Originally posted by Blanket
K. So, how can you use this argument as proof, when it would seem Wolverine>>Spider-Man, but still say Wolverine is not that far behind? There must be a sense of doubt here, no?I realize Wolverine is a more skilled striker, that was never an issue. Is Wolverine one shotting bricks? BTW, Cap is the worst character imaginable to use as a serious argument here. The guy destroyed Hulk, using minscule amount of skill. You would argue that Wolverine hits harder than Cap I imagine, and Wolverine could only dream of destroying Hulk without his claws. At best, he's only knocked Hulk off balance (?).
Impressive maybe, but not on the level of Spider-Man.
K. Everyone on the forum but 4-5 people on the forum are not well informed on purely Wolverine...
You guys are alpha here.You are. 😐
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It shows Wolverine using strikes more effectively than Spiderman, it proves he can be more effective against Roughouse with his fists than Spiderman can his.
And yeah in this particular example it would appear Wolverine>Spiderman...
but I do not base my overall evaulation of them both on this sole example.
Actually he's given Hulk a headbutt and reeled him back breaking his nose.iirc.
And yeah Wolverine's one shot bricks before: Arkon.
The only thing Spiderman does more effectively is use strength in his punches, but he's not much more impressive than Wolverine with stopping power.
Yeah, as displayed in this very thread... it gets very discouraging actually. lol.
Uh, no *well except for that arkon bit* but I can start.