Originally posted by jinzin
But CIS ISN'T aside.... 😕Hence the problem.... Wolverine vs. Spiderman What If? showed us what Spiderman SHOULD be like if he were to capitalize on his powers, but that's not the Spiderman that exists, and unless specified by the OP that's not the Spiderman we use.
Whatever helps your position, because the universe would just explode otherwise...
Originally posted by SamZED
Hey, Jin.🙂 I guess I'll have to read the book again, I just cant remember them fighting after the graveyard. But Logan has thrown like half a dozen attacks that were aimed at him, its up to debate ofcourse, but I dont see Logan holding back when his best friend's life depends on it and the time is running out, especially since Spider-man was himself asking for it and from the book it seems to me that Logan was going for the stab. I wouldnt say it's one vs dozen. Most of the times Logan tried to stab Spider-man (including the time he went berserk) Spider-man dodged the attacks with only two exceptions - during the training and that time Spider-man attacked Logan thinking he's a street thug dressed up like Logan which is understandalbe. And its not just Logan but people with comparable speed - Deadpool, Iron Fist etc. Sure there are low showings against some streetlevelers but they are no more consistent than Logan getting shot and really are just low showings looking at their random display of speed.
When Spider-man compared Daken's speed to Wolverine's I believe it was when he turned his back on Daken and shot webs and Daken moved while he wasnt looking so its more like he assumed that. And though Spider-man's compared Logan's speed to his own he later confirmed that he's still faster, plus when he was comparing their speed he according to the inner monologue was moving much slower than usually. In an open room with lots of space to move I see Spider-man dodging Wolverine for a long time. He'd only get hit when he gets tired and that shouldnt happen soon concidering his stamina.Again, guys. Im not arguing that Wolverine would win majority over Spider-man. I think Logan would take 6-7/10 cis on. But I cant agree that Logan wont even need his claws to beat Parker. Imo you guys, understimate Parker.
It was in a Web of Spiderman issue immediately following that book, it's not a fight, it's just Wolverine tagging his clothes off before he has a chance to react.
I think that fight is quite arguably a representation of Wolverine holding back and he had plenty of reasons to do so, he knows Spiderman is a hero, he knows Spiderman's a kid, and he already assumed Parker was out of his comfort zone and in over his head. Wolverine was taking it easy on him proven once where Wolverine drops his guard recognizing that Parkers about to unload on him, and then again when he opts to retract his claws.
Spiderman getting hit by skilled street levels is the norm not the exception. Like Wolverine getting shot by bullets, it's likely a case caused by his own self inflicted CIS. (not all the time as Dardevil has also proved).
Wolverine's almost as fast as parker way more skilled and has much much better stamina, there's virtually no reason why Parker should be able to successfully avoid him for any lengthy duration.
Originally posted by Phoenix2001
Whatever you want it to be.Spidey has the potential, CIS or not, because he has shown that potential.
Yeah, we all know he has potential no one is arguing against that, but he's not going to attain that potential with his CIS still in full effect, at the very least he won't do that for the majority.
Originally posted by jinzin
It was in a Web of Spiderman issue immediately following that book, it's not a fight, it's just Wolverine tagging his clothes off before he has a chance to react.
I think that fight is quite arguably a representation of Wolverine holding back and he had plenty of reasons to do so, he knows Spiderman is a hero, he knows Spiderman's a kid, and he already assumed Parker was out of his comfort zone and in over his head. Wolverine was taking it easy on him proven once where Wolverine drops his guard recognizing that Parkers about to unload on him, and then again when he opts to retract his claws.Spiderman getting hit by skilled street levels is the norm not the exception. Like Wolverine getting shot by bullets, it's likely a case caused by his own self inflicted CIS. (not all the time as Dardevil has also proved).
Wolverine's almost as fast as parker way more skilled and has much much better stamina, there's virtually no reason why Parker should be able to successfully avoid him for any lengthy duration.
Pete's SS-it don't guarantee him a win, but he can avoid a lot of hits. And if Logan does hit, its not an immediate KO.
Originally posted by Starscream M
spidermans taken punches from rhino and venomlogan's punches aren't gonna do jack even if he lands them...which is gonna be hard
spiderman KOs logan under this scenario
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The last 2/3 times that Rhino has gotten his mitts on Spiderman he's nearly killed him. Especially relivent when he became smart.
Venom? Venom has on dozens of occassions knocked Spiderman through loops with a few blows. In Maximum Carnage one shot from Venom sent Spiderman hurdling over the nearby park trees and into a KO.
And what kind of logic is this? Spiderman can take punches from yadda yadda... but he KO's Logan? Do we even need to BEGIN referencing the punches Wolverine has taken without issue?
