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Are you sure my beat down of you is what landed me on ignore?
no
First, that would have actually had to happen in order to even be a potential reason.
Second, consider the countless disagreements I've had over the years and that you and Nai were the only consistent posters and major players around here who have ever earned a spot on my ignore list. Deductive reasoning would indicate that it's because I found your civility wanting.
Jabs and teasing are great. But when we're having a discussion, you need to keep your cool in terms of outright insults or flaming or not post at all.
Well, your denial becomes transparent when you continue telling yourself you even hung in there as opposed to getting the equivalent of side swiped. Also, I would think Janus would be on your ignore list too considering it contains two other people that destroyed your arguments. Also, the insults would be kept to a minimum if you didn't insist on trolling after defeat.
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Well, your denial becomes transparent when you continue telling yourself you even hung in there as opposed to getting the equivalent of side swiped.
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Also, I would think Janus would be on your ignore list too considering it contains two other people that destroyed your arguments.
Being put on my ignore list has absolutely nothing to do with winning or losing in arguments with me, otherwise I'd imagine there'd be more people on the list.
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Also, the insults would be kept to a minimum if you didn't insist on trolling after defeat.
Trolling? wut
Originally posted by RE: Blaxican
Yes.No.
I'm getting all rawr because this is the second time in recent memory I've had to tell you off for misconstruing one of my statements, the last time being the in the battlebar, regarding TOR game.
No.
I don't think you're trolling, I just think you're being combative and confrontational in a situation that doesn't call for it.
It's also occurred to me that someone else made a similar observation about your posts in one of the vs. threads not too long ago. Was it Zampano?
If you feel I misconstrued you, then obviously you need to learn to better express yourself.
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NEPH:
Kotor was the 2nd best selling RPG on the xbox.TFU is the 7th best selling action game on xbox 360.
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YOU:And TFU outsold KOTOR.P-point?
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NEPH: Action games sell better.
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YOU: How does that make me wrong in my assertion that TFU outsold KOTOR?
(At this point Neph just simply stops addressing you. The ironic part is that you misconstrued him entirely; he didn't challenge your assertion.)
ME: Neph was pointing out that KotOR was near top of its class while TFU was most certainly not in the same league of its class, sales numbers being irrelevant because the point was KotOR performed better given its class (RPG versus action), its limited distribution (Majority of sales appear to be Xbox, PC sales are difficult to find, possibly negligent), and it received accolades."Star Wars: Knights of the Old Republic received strong praise, along with high critical acclaim. KotOR won numerous awards, including Game Developers Choice Awards' 2004 game of the year,[33] BAFTA Games Awards' best Xbox game of the year, and Interactive Achievement Awards for best console RPG and best computer RPG.[34]"
versus
"The Force Unleashed won a Writers Guild of America award for Best Video Game Writing.[110]"
TFU was faster selling and sold less than 400k more for Xbox 360 (which as a console sold more games than Xbox), but KotOR won more awards. You can take that how you will, really, depending on your agenda.
(Are we combative yet?)
YOU: The problem with comparing them in that sense is the Xbox is notorious for having an underwhelming RPG library, unlike the playstation. So in that sense, being the #2 Xbox RPG is a little like winning the special Olympics... metaphorically speaking.
(So if you're not interested in how we're comparing them, why are you talking about... comparing them? Anyone?)
ME: And yet KotOR won awards for RPG of the year, not just Xbox. It was second best selling on Xbox though, which is yet another point in its favor.Which was the whole point. If more sales was the whole point, Enter the Matrix would stomp both games.
(Am I combative and confrontational yet?)
YOU: My point was that The Force Unleashed outsold KOTOR. That point was contested by Neph.As I said, I have no idea what you and Gideon's discussion is about. Hence, the justifications for why TFU outsold KOTOR are inconsequential to me. I know why TFU outsold KOTOR. It's because people like the idea of running around as an overpowered force user blowing shit up all over the place.
ME: Erm, no it wasn't. Neph pointed out the obvious, that RPGs tend to sell less than action games and that KotOR was higher ranked among its "peers" than TFU was. I further commented that TFU's sales was irrelevant to any kind of comparison among the two, because TFU had worse reviews. And again, Enter the Matrix sold 2.3 million and sucked worse than both./debate.
(Combative? Confrontational? Yet?)
YOU: So I'm right that TFU otusold KOTOR.I don't see why this is an issue. I also don't see why I should care about the games being compared, as I said "I wouldn't be surprised if TFU outsold KOTOR". Never mentioned anything about one game being better than the other.
ME: 1. You incorrectly stated that Neph contested the idea of TFU selling more than KotOR, which was in a word - wrong.2. Your point leads the discussion nowhere, so repeatedly pointing it out without intending to actually help the discussion is wrong. Basically, if you don't understand what the point is, jumping in feet first to point out what is already stated and obvious is kinda... wrong. You feeling it here?
(Clearly, at this point you're coming off as dismissive and challenging everything I'm saying or in the case of some things, just ignoring them altogether. And yet still I haven't hauled off on you.
If pointing out how you did incorrectly misconstrue Nepth and then further comment that you jumped in head first and got frustrated because you don't know what's going on and apparently now you don't care is "combative/confrontational", then we're all guilty of that kind of behavior here.)
And then... at this point, you basically lose all pretense of politeness with gems like this:
Good, so I'm right in the end. Again, I don't know why you can't just say "Yes Blax, you were right about TFU outselling KOTOR, and leave it at that. Why should I care about the reasons for TFU outselling KOTOR when I think KOTOR is a better game anyway?How is it wrong?I don't give a shit about your discussion with Gideon, and I'm not obligated to. Is there a rule on KMC saying that I'm not allowed to comment on discussions? That I can only post if what I'm saying furthers some discussion, that isn't even relevant to the thread topic (last time I checked, the thread topic wasn't "which era is more interesting, the old republic era or the newer eras"😉?
Show me these rules, or gtfo out of my face.
I don't care about your discussion. My point wasn't related to yours and Gideons. The world doesn't revolve around you, etc. Deal with it.
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So really, who was combative and confrontational first? Because it wasn't me.
Originally posted by Stealth Moose
If you feel I misconstrued you, then obviously you need to learn to better express yourself.
(At this point Neph just simply stops addressing you. The ironic part is that you misconstrued him entirely; he didn't challenge your assertion.)
Why should I care about why TFU outsold KOTOR if I think KOTOR is a better game?
(Are we combative yet?)
Nope, you're not.
(So if you're not interested in how we're comparing them, why are you talking about... comparing them? Anyone?)Because I don't ignore people when they're directly talking to me?
(Am I combative and confrontational yet?)No, but this doesn't have anything to do with what I said.
(Combative? Confrontational? Yet?)
Nope.
(Clearly, at this point you're coming off as dismissive and challenging
And the reason why I became dismissive and challenging is because it was this point:
2. Your point leads the discussion nowhere, so repeatedly pointing it out without intending to actually help the discussion is wrong. Basically, if you don't understand what the point is, jumping in feet first to point out what is already stated and obvious is kinda... wrong. You feeling it here?
That you started making personal attacks, and I'm not putting up with that. I don't care if that's "the norm" on KMC.
If pointing out how you did incorrectly misconstrue Nepth and then further comment that you jumped in head first and got frustrated because you don't know what's going on and apparently now you don't care is "combative/confrontational", then we're all guilty of that kind of behavior here.)
No, just you. AmI having this conversation simultaneously with everyone else in this thread as well?
So really, who was combative and confrontational first?You. With this,
Originally posted by Stealth MooseUnless you think essentially calling me an ignorant dumbass and posting some typically Janus-esque insulting picture isn't being combative?
2. Your point leads the discussion nowhere, so repeatedly pointing it out without intending to actually help the discussion is wrong. Basically, if you don't understand what the point is, jumping in feet first to point out what is already stated and obvious is kinda... wrong. You feeling it here?