Originally posted by ares834Uhuh, so you're moving the goal post to specify only in a fight?
Completely disagree. Palpatine was perhaps the most subtle character in the films. Yet do you think he practiced self restraint while in battle? The answer is an obvious no.
Originally posted by Stealth MooseSo I'm right that TFU otusold KOTOR.
Erm, no it wasn't. Neph pointed out the obvious, that RPGs tend to sell less than action games and that KotOR was higher ranked among its "peers" than TFU was. I further commented that TFU's sales was irrelevant to any kind of comparison among the two, because TFU had worse reviews. And again, Enter the Matrix sold 2.3 million and sucked worse than both./debate.
I don't see why this is an issue. I also don't see why I should care about the games being compared, as I said "I wouldn't be surprised if TFU outsold KOTOR". Never mentioned anything about one game being better than the other.
DS
despite your repeated attempts at prolonging the argument, it has and repeatedly.
Wouldn't you technically have been prolonging the argument by responding and (even worse) trying to get my attention while on ignore and urging Janus on like a cheerleader or nymphomaniac to her poorly-endowed lover? 131
DS
I understand why you don't want to admit it. Insecurities galore 😂
I think you reference insecurities more than any other poster in the history of KMC. Coincidence? I think not. 😂
Originally posted by ares834
Not sure what this is directed at... Can you be more specific? Regardless, Revan, according to Kreia, created an entire Empire to defend against the True Sith.
The first sentence was to do with you idea that Revan preferred to 'take the Galaxy's weight on to his own shoulders'. The second was to do with him creating his empire to fight the Sith. However, she also theorises that his actual goal was to strengthen the Republic against the True Sith threat.
Really if you want to debate this stuff, create an account and talk to the guy yourself. Or email him. I don't know why I'm defending this guys theory.
Originally posted by Turr_PhennirNo, that was gloating, especially since you continues attempting to debate😂
Wouldn't you technically have been prolonging the argument by responding and (even worse) trying to get my attention while on ignore and urging Janus on like a cheerleader or nymphomaniac to her poorly-endowed lover? 131
I think you reference insecurities more than any other poster in the history of KMC. Coincidence? I think not. 😂I think you tend to ignore accusations dealing with insecurities. Coincidence? I think not 🙂
Blax
I don't see why this is an issue. I also don't see why I should care about the games being compared, as I said "I wouldn't be surprised if TFU outsold KOTOR". Never mentioned anything about one game being better than the other.
You have to remember that for all his undoubted sexpertise, Janus is also the guy who chronically misrepresents the arguments of others in order to provide something of a foundation for his bias-rich, agenda-drenched arguments. If you claim a certain character {say Exar Kun, for example} is not the most powerful Sith of all time, Janus will tell you, "You're right, he must be a weakling!"
Identifying clear distinctions is not his strong suit. But being sexy is, so....
Originally posted by RE: Blaxican
Uhuh, so you're moving the goal post to specify only in a fight?
It was an example. Mara Jade was talking about not using ones full power (restraint). One can easily be subtle but still have no qualms about using their full power and my Palpatine example shows this.
Originally posted by ares834
Completely disagree. Palpatine was perhaps the most subtle character in the films. Yet do you think he practiced self restraint while in battle? The answer is an obvious no.
Why do you assume we're talking about battle? You bet your ass Palps practised self-restraint. Look at the movies. He bids his time for like 20 odd years. Thats restraint right there.
DS
No, that was gloating,
I can definitely see where a KotOR fan would gloat after discovering that TFU outsold it.
😐
Actually, no I can't.
DS
I think you tend to ignore accusations dealing with insecurities. Coincidence? I think not 🙂
Could be that I'm... secure? mmm
DS
Ahaha gideon, For someone who makes ridiculous assertions in his own arguments, it's funny you should accuse someone of misrepresenting arguments.
Even if the first part of this were true, it has no bearing on the second part. So your comment is inappropriate, though I understand your need to prove that you're not simply a cheerleader compels you to respond automatically, without thought of what you're typing.
Originally posted by Nephthys
I finally got around to reading that link, and god what a pleasure. This guy should have been writing this book. Fvck Drew to death with a hot knife and put this guy in charge.Thanks for the link Zam. You guys should read this, its really interesting.
He's the nexus of my newest e-crush.
(Sorry tj, Crimzon, Lucius, Lucien, inimalist, but not Jessiah!)
Neph, do you think that the references to eastern spirituality are valid? SW has generally stayed much closer to Good/Jedi vs. Evil/Sith, without thinking so much about questions of where the Dark Side comes from. Off the top of my head, the only parallel example I see in canon is Veregre&Potentium in Traitor.
Originally posted by RE: Blaxican
I don't see why this is an issue. I also don't see why I should care about the games being compared, as I said "I wouldn't be surprised if TFU outsold KOTOR". Never mentioned anything about one game being better than the other.
1. You incorrectly stated that Neph contested the idea of TFU selling more than KotOR, which was in a word - wrong.
2. Your point leads the discussion nowhere, so repeatedly pointing it out without intending to actually help the discussion is wrong. Basically, if you don't understand what the point is, jumping in feet first to point out what is already stated and obvious is kinda... wrong. You feeling it here?
You have to remember that for all his undoubted sexpertise, Janus is also the guy who chronically misrepresents the arguments of others in order to provide something of a foundation for his bias-rich, agenda-drenched arguments. If you claim a certain character {say Exar Kun, for example} is not the most powerful Sith of all time, Janus will tell you, "You're right, he must be a weakling!"Identifying clear distinctions is not his strong suit. But being sexy is, so....
Lol. Love it when you feel the need to jab at me indirectly because you're miffed. It's almost endearing.
Originally posted by Turr_PhennirYou can't see someone gloating after rendering your argument more worthless than the 2010 Detroit lions? My lord, you bring "sore loser" into a new light 😂
I can definitely see where a KotOR fan would gloat after discovering that TFU outsold it.😐
Actually, no I can't.
Could be that I'm... secure? mmmhmm, ignoring accusations about insecurities and living in denial? Text book case there.
Originally posted by ares834No qualms about using full power =\= not having restraint.
It was an example. Mara Jade was talking about not using ones full power (restraint). One can easily be subtle but still have no qualms about using their full power and my Palpatine example shows this.
Part of having restraint is knowing when to go all out, and knowing when not too.
Originally posted by Nephthys
The first sentence was to do with you idea that Revan preferred to 'take the Galaxy's weight on to his own shoulders'. The second was to do with him creating his empire to fight the Sith. However, she also theorises that his actual goal was to strengthen the Republic against the True Sith threat.Really if you want to debate this stuff, create an account and talk to the guy yourself. Or email him. I don't know why I'm defending this guys theory.
You're defending the theory because the guy is a genius and letting the unwashed masses pick over revealed truth is only acceptable to despots and psychopaths.
Originally posted by Nephthys
Why do you assume we're talking about battle? You bet your ass Palps practised self-restraint. Look at the movies. He bids his time for like 20 odd years. Thats restraint right there.
Have you actually read the books? Mara Jade is talking about a different kind of restraint. She is talking about self restraint while using the force, basically she is saying don't use the force to rip apart space ships.
Originally posted by RE: Blaxican
No qualms about using full power =\= not having restraint.Part of having restraint is knowing when to go all out, and knowing when not too.
True. However, the is not the type of restraint she is talking about. Or at least that is not the type of restraint Luke believes she is talking about. She is basically saying don't use your full power.