Originally posted by Zampanó
4e is often derided as too-watered down for the masses. DnD elitists (and a shit-ton of fans of 3.5 that are just calcified into position without even the veneer of superiority as an excuse) think that there have been too many concessions. For example, I've been told that the grappling rules are usable. OUTRAGEIOUS!
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The only thing missing from 4th edition would be bindable quick keys. I mean really, it blows. I do have a handbook, before anyone asks. and it's all Vene's fault.