Is anyone interested in Star Wars the Old Republic?

Dont jedi call revenge a part of the 'dark side'? If youre a sith who constantly makes difficult choices and has no problem with revenge or anger or emotions, wouldnt you be considered 'dark side' by the jedi? I guess this game explains those issues whether purposely or accidentally. That said bioware still has hilariously silly continuity issues. For instance the temple on Kaas was built by this new empire (I dont think its the dark force temple) housed tombs to some of the most powerful sith lords over the past thousand years. Then we get a tomb and a spirit of a sith lord who fought against Tulak Hord back in the early days of the sith empire. See the problem? I have plenty more to share but I think ill start with that

I am relatively flexible about a plot where someone trains as a Sith but realises their ways are wrong and gets out before it is too late.

But the idea that you could be actually fighting for the Sith, advancing their evil aims, but be on the Light Side... and the other Sith are ok with this? At this point I am querying why you are using the term 'Sith' at all, as it is pretty much contrary to all presented meanings of the term, film and EU, that a. a Light Sider would fight for them and b. the Dark Lord(s) of the Sith would be ok with having a Light Sider in their ranks.

We all know that doesn't really scan on so many levels.

I mean, the Empire are INVADING the Republic, yes? For purely selfish purposes? With a surprise attack based on a pretence of peace? And I know the Republic has its corruption issues, but they are still the injured party here and the Jedi are defending them not because that's just what side their on, but because it is the right thing to do. How many have died because of the invasion, born out of selfishness and greed- the essence of the Dark Side?

So why would anyone on the Light Side fight FOR that? And considering the enormous possibility that they would realise "hang on, I'm fighting for the bad guys here, shouldn't I stop them instead?", why would their commanders not have thrown them out (or, more Sith-like, killed them) ages ago?

This is getting a certain distance from some basic Star Wars principles. If you want to create a political organisation which has both Light and Dark Siders fighting for it (geez, that's already not very Star Wars) then whatever, but to then try and pass off such a thing as 'The Sith', which is a pure bad guy thing in continuity... seems very weird to me.

Good people fought for the Nazi's as well most likely. The Empire is your home. Why wouldn't you fight for it? From what I've heard on the swtor forums, you'll be trying to change the Empire from within or something.

It all comes down to how its done imo. If I ever get a chance to play Swtor I'll go for a Light Side Agent, but I'm also interested in a Light Side Sith Warrior as well.

Well fair enough, I've not seen the storylines.

Still... I cannot see it working out.

Originally posted by Ushgarak

But the idea that you could be actually fighting for the Sith, advancing their evil aims, but be on the Light Side... and the other Sith are ok with this? At this point I am querying why you are using the term 'Sith' at all, as it is pretty much contrary to all presented meanings of the term, film and EU, that a. a Light Sider would fight for them and b. the Dark Lord(s) of the Sith would be ok with having a Light Sider in their ranks.

I mean, the Empire are INVADING the Republic, yes? For purely selfish purposes? With a surprise attack based on a pretence of peace? And I know the Republic has its corruption issues, but they are still the injured party here and the Jedi are defending them not because that's just what side their on, but because it is the right thing to do. How many have died because of the invasion, born out of selfishness and greed- the essence of the Dark Side?

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his is getting a certain distance from some basic Star Wars principles. If you want to create a political organisation which has both Light and Dark Siders fighting for it (geez, that's already not very Star Wars) then whatever, but to then try and pass off such a thing as 'The Sith', which is a pure bad guy thing in continuity... seems very weird to me. [/B]

Sorry, I didn't literally mean 'you', I was using it an impersonal sense, as in "why would anyone use the term 'Sith' at all...'"

But I am happy in my stance that the Sith are evil. They embody the Dark Side, which is the force of evil in Star Wars. I don't really see that as a controversial viewpoint- we all know the Sith are the bad guys.

Originally posted by Sith Sorcerer
The empire also does the bidding of one man, the sith emperor, who does everything for purely selfish reasons.

From what I hear

Spoiler:
not for long.

Edit: Well said Lucius. 👆

I think a better way of describing it, is that you can still be part of the Sith Empire and even be trained as a Sith, but realize the Sith are evil and thus do your best to circumvent the worst excesses or even try and counteract the destruction actions of your fellow Sith. A PC who did this wouldn't be a Sith, so much as a Force user trying to stay within in the light while working for the wrong side. A mechanism that allowed players to defect from one side to another would be interesting, but I doubt they would do that.

Originally posted by Lucius
I think a better way of describing it, is that you can still be part of the Sith Empire and even be trained as a Sith, but realize the Sith are evil and thus do your best to circumvent the worst excesses or even try and counteract the destruction actions of your fellow Sith. A PC who did this wouldn't be a Sith, so much as a Force user trying to stay within in the light while working for the wrong side. A mechanism that allowed players to defect from one side to another would be interesting, but I doubt they would do that.

I get the theory, and it sounds all the better as you concluded that he is not really a Sith. But I understand Bioware are determined to say they ARE Sith?

Also, I cannot for one moment see that as compatible with continuing to fight the war against the Jedi. Once you've realised your side is in the wrong (and that the Dark Side is evil, and the Sith champion the Dark Side) you are kinda committed to pulling out.

There's also the point about it being too late at some point to just change your mind and become Light Side. You'd pretty much have never to be Dark Side in the first place, and I still wonder how you would get into any position of responsibility in the Sith if you weren't on the Dark Side.

It's all a very weird approach for Bioware to take.

Trooper abilities.

Also, apparently Sadow had an ancient sith temple of assassins on Hoth and theres a technique called force walking where you bind sith apparitions to you that gives you power. Did that with a few sith including Horak-Mul on Hoth. And finally, as much as this will pain Gideon, Palpatine is no longer among the 2 sith who can roam planet to planet as a spirit and possess power.

Oh my, how terrible. 😐

Poor Gideon.

DS
and since this game is nothing but a beta so far, there's no real "canon" in any sense of the word (according to Drew).

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I do not know who this DS is but yes. 🙂

He's a flaming homosexual liberal.

Im sure thats just pure jealousy talking. From what I hear, hes charismatic, intelligent, and has incredible girth.

I didn't know he was fat.

Only where it counts.

The ass? 😐

Not sure the "girth" of the ask would make much of a difference to a homo. "More cushion for the pushin" isnt something thats mentioned I dont think. Fill us in ?