Harry Potter Magic versus the Force (Army thread).....

Started by Sadako of Girth73 pages

Yep.

Originally posted by Sadako of Girth
This implies that quality insults were wasted.

The state of being off-topic is what makes them a waste, not the content, themselves.

The alternative is interpreting the insults as their own contributive entity almost wholly separate from the thread's topic. In which case, yes, it can be boiled down to "good fun."

Also.....REPORTED! RAWR!

Everyone calm down.

Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
Everyone calm down.

Reported. That post was offensive, RJ. 😆

Originally posted by dadudemon
Only in the MVF can you have such a gigantic waste of off topic insults.

IMPEDIMENT FOR ADMIN! RAWR!

I'm game. Tell Raz to log his ass on KMC and deputize me.

Originally posted by dadudemon
The state of being off-topic is what makes them a waste, not the content, themselves.

The alternative is interpreting the insults as their own contributive entity almost wholly separate from the thread's topic. In which case, yes, it can be boiled down to "good fun."

Also.....REPORTED! RAWR!

😛

So i looked at this page hoping i'd see where teh argument was headed. Imagine my surprise that another HP vs. star wars thread would provoce such off topicness. But i digress, what i'd like to know is what the range of a jedi's power actually are in regards to the things they can do to other poeple. I know they can sense things like people dying on other planets, but can they influence someones mind from say 100 yards? And another thing, can force push stop a wall of fire?

Probably hold it at bay. Some fool suggested that they can actually seize control of fiendfyre and redirect it.

By moving the air it would rely on.
And if the Fiendfyre was in a force governed universe, everything in that universe would be made of....ummm....force...including the fiendfyre.

So that fool was most likely right.

Originally posted by Sadako of Girth
By moving the air it would rely on.
And if the Fiendfyre was in a force governed universe, everything in that universe would be made of....ummm....force...including the fiendfyre.

So that fool was most likely right.


I hate to reference the prequels in my arguments, but Jorge basically killed the idea that the force governs the universe. As it comes from microscopic organisms.

Originally posted by Sadako of Girth
By moving the air it would rely on.
And if the Fiendfyre was in a force governed universe, everything in that universe would be made of....ummm....force...including the fiendfyre.

So that fool was most likely right.

Fiendfyre has a mind of it's own, dude. It has a conscience. It's not some overgrown campfire.

Try again.

Originally posted by omgchos
I hate to reference the prequels in my arguments, but Jorge basically killed the idea that the force governs the universe. As it comes from microscopic organisms.

Midichlorians are the conduits by which the force "speaks" to the the force sensitive. The greater the count (it's a per cell, thing...not a "overall" count. A lot of people mistake Vader's missing limbs for the reasons he lost the majority of his potential), the stronger the person's force potential.

In other words, the "force" is not the sum of a microscopic organism.

Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
Fiendfyre has a mind of it's own, dude. It has a conscience. It's not some overgrown campfire.

Try again.


No need to "try"*.
Not when success was attained the first time.

It can have all the mind it wants, but if its made of force, (which it would have to be to be present in this battle) then its subject to the will of the living force.

* Do or do not....there is no try." - Yoda, Empire Strikes Back 1980, 1997, 2005

You really should get round to knowing even the basics of SW, in the future. 🙂

Originally posted by dadudemon
Midichlorians are the conduits by which the force "speaks" to the the force sensitive. The greater the count (it's a per cell, thing...not a "overall" count. A lot of people mistake Vader's missing limbs for the reasons he lost the majority of his potential), the stronger the person's force potential.

In other words, the "force" is not the sum of a microscopic organism.


That's what it basically boils down to tho. He's saying the force is in everything, as if its the backbone of the universe. Which it was in the original star wars. But the way he explained in the prequels is that they are where the force comes from. In any case magical fire with a mind of its own that can only be controlled by the most skilled wizards (and im talking top tier here) would be susceptible to a jedi's mind tricks.

Originally posted by Sadako of Girth
No need to "try"*.
Not when success was attained the first time.

It can have all the mind it wants, but if its made of force, (which it would have to be to be present in this battle) then its subject to the will of the living force.

* Do or do not....there is no try." - Yoda, Empire Strikes Back 1980, 1997, 2005

You really should get round to knowing even the basics of SW, in the future. 🙂


If everything is made of force, then why cant jedi's control everything. I mean why cant they just make things pop into existence. Like if he gets hungry couldnt he just make a hamburger appear. Ur making it sound godlike. When its more akin to FMA. Every jedi has a gate inside them (medicolorians) that alow that lets them use the force. Just as the alchemists use the gate to make alchemy happen.


That's what it basically boils down to tho. He's saying the force is in everything, as if its the backbone of the universe. Which it was in the original star wars. But the way he explained in the prequels is that they are where the force comes from.

The Force is generated by the midiclorians, but the Force itself is a universal energy field that permeats everything. Hence why non-living matter can be affected by it.

Originally posted by Nephthys
The Force is generated by the midiclorians, but the Force itself is a universal energy field that permeats everything. Hence why non-living matter can be affected by it.

so you'd think after thousands of years of untilizing the force the jedi's might have picked up on how to do it themselves. But apperently this universal permeating power that exists in all things can only be harnessed by bacteria or something along those lines. And then funneled through someone who was lucky enuf at birth to have more than a few of these said organisms in their blood.

Originally posted by Nephthys
The Force is generated by the midiclorians, but the Force itself is a universal energy field that permeats everything. Hence why non-living matter can be affected by it.

Again, I submit the word "conduit."

Originally posted by omgchos
so you'd think after thousands of years of untilizing the force the jedi's might have picked up on how to do it themselves. But apperently this universal permeating power that exists in all things can only be harnessed by bacteria or something along those lines. And then funneled through someone who was lucky enuf at birth to have more than a few of these said organisms in their blood.

Not even bacteria: they are organelles inside of other cells.

Originally posted by dadudemon
Again, I submit the word "conduit."

Not even bacteria: they are organelles inside of other cells.


U succesfully just danced around my entire point. And organelles arent life forms. they are parts of parts of life forms. Qui gon said life forms. Sorry.

Originally posted by omgchos
U succesfully just danced around my entire point. And organelles arent life forms. they are parts of parts of life forms. Qui gon said life forms. Sorry.

Why the hostility, bro?

And, no, you did not make a point that was worth responding to. You point boils down to "nuh-uhhhh" and you just repeated yourself. Why would I respond to that when I hate circular discussions?

And, no, sorry, you're wrong: they are like organelles because they exsist inside of the "host's" cells. It's referred to as a symbiotic relationship.

http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Midi-chlorian

They have "works cited" for you, as well.

Here's he clencher:

"It is said that certain creatures are born with a higher awareness of the Force than humans. Their brains are different; they have more midi-chlorians in their cells."

-George Lucas circa 1977