Harry Potter Magic versus the Force (Army thread).....

Started by omgchos73 pages

Originally posted by dadudemon
Why the hostility, bro?

And, no, you did not make a point that was worth responding to. You point boils down to "nuh-uhhhh" and you just repeated yourself. Why would I repond to that when I hate circular discussions?

And, no, sorry, you're wrong: they are like organelles because they exsist inside of the "host's" cells. It's referred to as a symbiotic relationship.

http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Midi-chlorian

They have "works cited" for you, as well.

The name organelle comes from the idea that these structures are to cells what an organ is to the body (hence the name organelle, the suffix -elle being a diminutive). Organelles are identified by microscopy, and can also be purified by cell fractionation. There are many types of organelles, particularly in eukaryotic cells. Prokaryotes were once thought not to have organelles, but some examples have now been identified.[1]

Just cuz they used the word organelle on star wars wiki dont make it true. And i dont know why its so imprtant to you that thye are organelles and not life forms.

I only commented that it seems like backwards logic to me that when you've been aware of such a powerful thing as the force and where it comes from for so long and can communicate with the life forms that give it to you, you'd think at least one of these life forms that can utilize the force would have figured out a way to tune into the force themselves without these life forms. And i dont see how me thinking this even goes against the jedis winning or losing. Your just arguing for the sake of arguing now.

Originally posted by dadudemon
Here's he clencher:

"It is said that certain creatures are born with a higher awareness of the Force than humans. Their brains are different; they have more midi-chlorians in their cells."

-George Lucas circa 1977

And as for this. He's not the god of star wars. I mean look how many mistakes he made in the prequel storyline as it pretains to the origional movies. There were other people involved in star wars. And all he said there was theat they had more of them in there cells. I dont see the word organelles in there anywhere so its a pointless quote anyway.

Originally posted by omgchos
And as for this. He's not the god of star wars. I mean look how many mistakes he made in the prequel storyline as it pretains to the origional movies. There were other people involved in star wars. And all he said there was theat they had more of them in there cells. I dont see the word organelles in there anywhere so its a pointless quote anyway.

Instead of saying, "my bad, dude" you attack the only person that can literally have the final word or say on the matter? Come on, man: be a good sport. 😬

Let's recap:

Midichlorians are conduits of the force. They are not the force, itself. They reside inside of cells and are not "bacteria." They are referred to as organelles and, in fact, George Lucas stated he got the idea from mitochondria. They are symbiotes with their host.

Now STFU with your wrong ideas about Star Wars.

Additionally, the midichlorians concept was first mentioned in 1977. So you can take the idea that it was tripe from the PT, elsewhere. Like...the trash.

Originally posted by omgchos
The name organelle comes from the idea that these structures are to cells what an organ is to the body (hence the name organelle, the suffix -elle being a diminutive). Organelles are identified by microscopy, and can also be purified by cell fractionation. There are many types of organelles, particularly in eukaryotic cells. Prokaryotes were once thought not to have organelles, but some examples have now been identified.[1]

Just cuz they used the word organelle on star wars wiki dont make it true. And i dont know why its so imprtant to you that thye are organelles and not life forms.

I only commented that it seems like backwards logic to me that when you've been aware of such a powerful thing as the force and where it comes from for so long and can communicate with the life forms that give it to you, you'd think at least one of these life forms that can utilize the force would have figured out a way to tune into the force themselves without these life forms. And i dont see how me thinking this even goes against the jedis winning or losing. Your just arguing for the sake of arguing now.

So you don't know what you're talking about? Gotcha. You were wrong about everything? Gotcha. You a bad sport with an ego the size of the moon? Gotcha.

Show me where I said organelles were NOT life-forms.

Originally posted by dadudemon
Instead of saying, "my bad, dude" you attack the only person that can literally have the final word or say on the matter? Come on, man: be a good sport. 😬

Let's recap:

Midichlorians are conduits of the force. They are not the force, itself. They reside inside of cells and are not "bacteria." They are referred to as organelles and, in fact, George Lucas stated he got the idea from mitochondria. They are symbiotes with their host.

Now STFU with your wrong ideas about Star Wars.

Its funny how touchy you get over being right about this. And why does George get the final say. I say he should be banned form ever talking about star wars for the travesty he inflicted upon it. Go to Redlettermedia.com and watch the prequel reviews. See for yourself the truth of the prequels. Tho from what i can tell so far judging espesially by telling me to shut the **** up, you probally like them too much to have your opinion of them come crashing down.

And i did concede a while back that they are conduits. Since the whole point of what i said was that if they were conduits you would think the jedi/sith themselves would have learned to use it w/o the microscopic life forms in their cells. But damn i guess voicing a spirited opinion desrves getting attacked by some star wars geek who gets his panties in a bunch when someone has a civil argument with them.

Originally posted by dadudemon
Instead of saying, "my bad, dude" you attack the only person that can literally have the final word or say on the matter? Come on, man: be a good sport. 😬

Let's recap:

Midichlorians are conduits of the force. They are not the force, itself. They reside inside of cells and are not "bacteria." They are referred to as organelles and, in fact, George Lucas stated he got the idea from mitochondria. They are symbiotes with their host.

Now STFU with your wrong ideas about Star Wars.

Additionally, the midichlorians concept was first mentioned in 1977. So you can take the idea that it was tripe from the PT, elsewhere. Like...the trash.

So you don't know what you're talking about? Gotcha. You were wrong about everything? Gotcha. You a bad sport with an ego the size of the moon? Gotcha.

Show me where I said organelles were NOT life-forms.

U do know answering your own questions is the sign of a large ego.

And that is what you said as a matter of fact. Because saying something is an organnelle does by definition make it not a life form. Thats all i said.

Originally posted by Nephthys
The Force is generated by the midiclorians, but the Force itself is a universal energy field that permeats everything. Hence why non-living matter can be affected by it.
Really? Are you sure they generate it? I recall that they simply allowed one to communicate with the force.

Originally posted by ares834
Really? Are you sure they generate it? I recall that they simply allowed one to communicate with the force.

Thats what the consensus is.

Originally posted by omgchos
Its funny how touchy you get over being right about this.

No, the touchy one, was you. I have a strict policy of "responding in kind."

Originally posted by omgchos
And why does George get the final say.

This is a rhetorical question that you know the answer to but, instead, will present some wrong idea about it, later.

Originally posted by omgchos
I say he should be banned form ever talking about star wars for the travesty he inflicted upon it.

With that logic, you really should GTFO out of all discussions Star Wars because there is literally an accepted set of canon that should be used or not used.

If you want to present your own ideas as acceptible in a debate, you may be able form your own thread in the writing section and create an "alternative" universe. There, establish your own rules and enforce them. You may be able to do that in the role-play section, too.

Originally posted by omgchos
Go to Redlettermedia.com and watch the prequel reviews. See for yourself the truth of the prequels.

I've seen so much PT hate in the last 11 years that I definitely do not need to waste my time on such a website.

Originally posted by omgchos
Tho from what i can tell so far judging espesially by telling me to shut the **** up, you probally like them too much to have your opinion of them come crashing down.

HA! As if someone like yourself can pretend that your own ideas were not just destroyed. You were, quite inexorbly, destroyed on all your points in the most direct way possible. Yet, I'm the one "fearing" more "PT hate", huh?

Originally posted by omgchos
And i did concede a while back that they are conduits.

Thank you, then I apologize for assuming you didn't. My bad.

Originally posted by omgchos
Since the whole point of what i said was that if they were conduits you would think the jedi/sith themselves would have learned to use it w/o the microscopic life forms in their cells.

GL has made it clear that there is no connection without those tiny little creatures. Additionally, there ARE force-users who have dedicated much of their research to understanding them. A G-level canon character would be Darth Plagieus: he figured out those little creatures to such a point that he could manipulate them and bend them to create life and even restore dead life.

Originally posted by omgchos
But damn i guess voicing a spirited opinion desrves getting attacked by some star wars geek who gets his panties in a bunch when someone has a civil argument with them.

Always the victim, eh? 😆

No, not civil. You immediately started getting whiny and antagonistic, of which, I responded in kind. Check my original reply: it was civil and friendly. Check your whining out about me not replying.

And, calling me a Star Wars geek is like saying there's a gravitational law governing the orbit's of the planets: thank you, captain obvious. 🙂

Originally posted by omgchos
Thats what the consensus is.

In addition to being what GL says.

Originally posted by dadudemon
No, the touchy one, was you. I have a strict policy of "responding in kind."

This is a rhetorical question that you know the answer to but, instead, will present some wrong idea about it, later.

With that logic, you really should GTFO out of all discussions Star Wars because there is literally an accepted set of canon that should be used or not used.

If you want to present your own ideas as acceptible in a debate, you may be able form your own thread in the writing section and create an "alternative" universe. There, establish your own rules and enforce them. You may be able to do that in the role-play section, too.

I've seen so much PT hate in the last 11 years that I definitely do not need to waste my time on such a website.

HA! As if someone like yourself can pretend that your own ideas were not just destroyed. You were, quite inexorbly, destroyed on all your points in the most direct way possible. Yet, I'm the one "fearing" more "PT hate", huh?

Thank you, then I apologize for assuming you didn't. My bad.

GL has made it clear that there is no connection without those tiny little creatures. Additionally, there ARE force-users who have dedicated much of their research to understanding them. A G-level canon character would be Darth Plagieus: he figured out those little creatures to such a point that he could manipulate them and bend them to create life and even restore dead life.

Always the victim, eh? 😆

No, not civil. You immediately started getting whiny and antagonistic, of which, I responded in kind. Check my original reply: it was civil and friendly. Check your whining out about me not replying.

And, calling me a Star Wars geek is like saying there's a gravitational law governing the orbit's of the planets: thank you, captain obvious. 🙂


I believe all i did was at the end of my point say, "sorry"..... guess that's considered antagonistic.

I say again he was not solely involved in the creation and continuation of star wars.

Just because i disregard the prequels and all EU associated with them you say i shouldn't discuss star wars? Im not allowed to see the prequels for what they are?

I guess ur trying to say sarcastically that my logic is fantasy and i should go somewhere else. Which just shows me more and more who the real antagonistic one is.

And its not just some video with nothing but Prequel bashing. He carefully picks them apart and discusses the enormous plot holes and incongruity to the original star wars trilogy. And the fact that you wont watch it just shows how close minded you are.

Destroyed is the kind of word someone who thinks to highly of themselves uses to describe victory. Like those 12 year olds on COD that say they destroyed you when they manage to kill you a couple times. Ur basically making yourself look childish now.

See if you has started this entire argument with explaining that they have made it clear that it is impossible to access the force w/o the life forms this would have been a very short argument. But u chose the im right your wrong approach.

I dont think whiny applies here. Whining is something you do when you're 10 and you didnt get ur favorite candy. All i ever did was voice an opinion. And again saying sorry at the end of a statement isnt antagonistic, its just a slightly embellished "im right your wrong" which i admit isnt 100% civil, but is in no way antagonistic.

And just the fact that you bothered to write an entire sentence with analogy and all about how i pointed out ur a star wars geek, and then calling me captain obvious....... little too much effort there for such an, ironically, obvious joke.

Originally posted by dadudemon
In addition to being what GL says.

See i admit something but just have to add your two cents. :facepalm:

Originally posted by omgchos
U do know answering your own questions is the sign of a large ego.

There's also a large body of reasons other than a large ego for answering your own question in a discussion. 😬

For example: illustrating a point.

Additionally, we've already seen that my ego isn't so large that I cannot quickly apologize when I'm wrong.

Originally posted by omgchos
And that is what you said as a matter of fact. Because saying something is an organnelle does by definition make it not a life form. Thats all i said.

"What Are Midi-Chlorians?
Midi-chlorians, as explained by the creator of Star Wars, George Lucas:

'Midi-chlorians are a loose depiction of mitochondria, which are necessary components for cells to divide. They probably had something--which will come out someday--to do with the beginnings of life and how one cell decided to become two cells with a little help from this other little creature who came in, without whom life couldn't exist. And it's really a way of saying we have hundreds of little creatures who live on us, and without them, we all would die. There wouldn't be any life. They are necessary for us; we are necessary for them. Using them in the metaphor, saying society is the same way, says we all must get along with each other.'"

http://www.theforce.net/midichlorians/midi-what.asp

Also, organelles, by scientific definitions ARE life. You can try and split hairs to be right, but you still end up being wrong.

Let's just pretend, for a brief moment, that your flawed definition of what constitutes life is accepted. We still have the avenue of mitochondria resembling endosymbiotic prokaryotes than what most organelles are and this is supported by their unique set of DNA. Meaning, they are symbiotic whle still being distinguishable entities in their own right. An entire set of science in genetics is based off of mitochondrial DNA. In this, we have the scientific reasons for George Lucas saying he got the idea from mitochondria: endosymbiotic prokaryotes. He just took it a step further; instead of being just energy power houses, they have the trait of being conduits to a more universal energy.

Originally posted by dadudemon
There's also a large body of reasons other than a large ego for answering your own question in a discussion. 😬

For example: illustrating a point.

Additionally, we've already seen that my ego isn't so large that I cannot quickly apologize when I'm wrong.

"What Are Midi-Chlorians?
Midi-chlorians, as explained by the creator of Star Wars, George Lucas:

'Midi-chlorians are a loose depiction of mitochondria, which are necessary components for cells to divide. They probably had something--which will come out someday--to do with the beginnings of life and how one cell decided to become two cells with a little help from this other little creature who came in, without whom life couldn't exist. And it's really a way of saying we have hundreds of little creatures who live on us, and without them, we all would die. There wouldn't be any life. They are necessary for us; we are necessary for them. Using them in the metaphor, saying society is the same way, says we all must get along with each other.'"

http://www.theforce.net/midichlorians/midi-what.asp

Also, organelles, by scientific definitions ARE life. You can try and split hairs to be right, but you still end up being wrong.

Let's just pretend, for a brief moment, that your flawed definition of what constitutes life is accepted. We still have the avenue of mitochondria resembling endosymbiotic prokaryotes than what most organelles are and this is supported by their unique set of DNA. Meaning, they are symbiotic whle still being distinguishable entities in their own right. An entire set of science in genetics is based off of mitochondrial DNA. In this, we have the scientific reasons for George Lucas saying he got the idea from mitochondria: endosymbiotic prokaryotes. He just took it a step further; instead of being just energy power houses, they have the trait of being conduits to a more universal energy.

Everything alive is "Life". The exact words were "microscopic life forms".

A life form is an entity or being that is living or alive.

An entity is something that has a distinct, separate existence, although it need not be a material existence.

Being (i.e. be+-ing, by synecdoche), is an English word used for conceptualizing subjective and objective aspects of reality, including those fundamental to the self. In abstract usage, "the being" or "one's being" is the mind's concept of the self as a whole entity —including both mind and body —wherein the being is in the mind, and the "body" is all sensory aspects within the being.

And as for answering your own questions to prove a point, u asked ME a question, then answered it as if i already had with a "Gotcha". Thats putting words in my mouth, not proving a point.

Originally posted by omgchos
I believe all i did was at the end of my point say, "sorry"..... guess that's considered antagonistic.

hahahaha. So, you're going to try and pass of your snide remarks at the end of a statement that you THOUGHT pwned the discussion, as being nice. Nice try.

Why in the world did you think that would even fly? That's absurd that you thought it would just be accepted.

Originally posted by omgchos
I say again he was not solely involved in the creation and continuation of star wars.

And this, somehow, magically has anything to do with what we are talking about: midichlorians, their nature, and how they work with the force.

The answer is rhetorical, btw. The answer is "no."

Originally posted by omgchos
Just because i disregard the prequels and all EU associated with them you say i shouldn't discuss star wars? Im not allowed to see the prequels for what they are?

If you want to be taken seriously, not be called a troll, and actually participate in discussions, yes, you should acknowledge and use the PT. If you do not, you really shouldn't waste your time on it, especially in VS. discussions.

Originally posted by omgchos
I guess ur trying to say sarcastically that my logic is fantasy and i should go somewhere else. Which just shows me more and more who the real antagonistic one is.

Again, you're such the victim, aren't you?

No, I was providing a way for you to hold your ideas and be able to be correct/legit.

That just goes to show you that you're trying to play the victim card more and more.

Originally posted by omgchos
And its not just some video with nothing but Prequel bashing. He carefully picks them apart and discusses the enormous plot holes and incongruity to the original star wars trilogy. And the fact that you wont watch it just shows how close minded you are.

Yeah, and I've seen the one on TPM. I actually filled up almost 2 full posts (almost 20,000 characters) just covering the first 7 minutes of the TPM video. I realized how futile it would be to continue destroying his points.

And, most of the major points are not original to him. Also, his voice got annoying very fast.

Originally posted by omgchos
Destroyed is the kind of word someone who thinks to highly of themselves uses to describe victory. Like those 12 year olds on COD that say they destroyed you when they manage to kill you a couple times. Ur basically making yourself look childish now.

That, or it's a self-parody of the concept of internet arguments being silly and is a staple of my posting style.

Things I also say: "I have taken a sh*t all over your points."
"I just pwned your points."

Additionally, you take this stuff waaaaaaaaaay too seriously. What's actually the chidlish part is the person that cannot admit fault, takes a non-serious discussion, seriously, and becomes antagonistic when proven wrong.

Me? You'll never see me say that I'm NOT being childish. 🙂

Originally posted by omgchos
See if you has started this entire argument with explaining that they have made it clear that it is impossible to access the force w/o the life forms this would have been a very short argument. But u chose the im right your wrong approach.

Wrong. I, instead, countered the points you made that were wrong. Nothing more was necessary. If you want to pretend that me magically saying something that is non sequitur in logic to the points you were making, I'll just brush up on my jedi-mind reading powers so I can make our arguments shorter, in the future.

Note: since you have problems on what I state of what I say being or not being not sarcasm, that last statment was actually sarcasm. No, I'm not patronizing you: I am dead serious about trying to help you understand me better to avoid lengthy discussions.

Originally posted by omgchos
I dont think whiny applies here. Whining is something you do when you're 10 and you didnt get ur favorite candy. All i ever did was voice an opinion. And again saying sorry at the end of a statement isnt antagonistic, its just a slightly embellished "im right your wrong" which i admit isnt 100% civil, but is in no way antagonistic.

Defend as you might, it's right there what you did. You even tried to pass of the patronizing "sorry" as a genuine apology which was hilarious. It's like you thought I was 5 and would fall for that. 😆 It's true, you do think I'm five because you think "destory" and "pwned" are serious business.

Originally posted by omgchos
And just the fact that you bothered to write an entire sentence with analogy and all about how i pointed out ur a star wars geek, and then calling me captain obvious....... little too much effort there for such an, ironically, obvious joke.

And you just typed out all of that just to miss the humor: humorous analogies are made quite frequently in the MVF. Mine just happen to be physics based, more often than not.

Originally posted by dadudemon
hahahaha. So, you're going to try and pass of your snide remarks at the end of a statement that you THOUGHT pwned the discussion, as being nice. Nice try.

Why in the world did you think that would even fly? That's absurd that you thought it would just be accepted.

And this, somehow, magically has anything to do with what we are talking about: midichlorians, their nature, and how they work with the force.

The answer is rhetorical, btw. The answer is "no."

If you want to be taken seriously, not be called a troll, and actually participate in discussions, yes, you should acknowledge and use the PT. If you do not, you really shouldn't waste your time on it, especially in VS. discussions.

Again, you're such the victim, aren't you?

No, I was providing a way for you to hold your ideas and be able to be correct/legit.

That just goes to show you that you're trying to play the victim card more and more.

Yeah, and I've seen the one on TPM. I actually filled up almost 2 full posts (almost 20,000 characters) just covering the first 7 minutes of the TPM video. I realized how futile it would be to continue destroying his points.

And, most of the major points are not original to him. Also, his voice got annoying very fast.

That, or it's a self-parody of the concept of internet arguments being silly and is a staple of my posting style.

Things I also say: "I have taken a sh*t all over your points."
"I just pwned your points."

Additionally, you take this stuff waaaaaaaaaay too seriously. What's actually the chidlish part is the person that cannot admit fault, takes a non-serious discussion, seriously, and becomes antagonistic when proven wrong.

Me? You'll never see me say that I'm NOT being childish. 🙂

Wrong. I, instead, countered the points you made that were wrong. Nothing more was necessary. If you want to pretend that me magically saying something that is non sequitur in logic to the points you were making, I'll just brush up on my jedi-mind reading powers so I can make our arguments shorter, in the future.

Note: since you have problems on what I state of what I say being or not being not sarcasm, that last statment was actually sarcasm. No, I'm not patronizing you: I am dead serious about trying to help you understand me better to avoid lengthy discussions.

Defend as you might, it's right there what you did. You even tried to pass of the patronizing "sorry" as a genuine apology which was hilarious. It's like you thought I was 5 and would fall for that. 😆 It's true, you do think I'm five because you think "destory" and "pwned" are serious business.

And you just typed out all of that just to miss the humor: humorous analogies are made quite frequently in the MVF. Mine just happen to be physics based, more often than not.

The only thing i even wanna ask in regard to this post is what you thought was wrong with the review? I wanna here this. And no im not being sarcastic, if you have conflicting opinions i wanna here your side of the argument.

The rest you just kinda repeated yourself with new insults.

Originally posted by omgchos
Everything alive is "Life". The exact words were "microscopic life forms".

Are organelles forms of microscopic life? Yes.

Originally posted by omgchos
A life form is an [b]entity or being that is living or alive.

An entity is something that has a distinct, separate existence, although it need not be a material existence.

Being (i.e. be+-ing, by synecdoche), is an English word used for conceptualizing subjective and objective aspects of reality, including those fundamental to the self. In abstract usage, "the being" or "one's being" is the mind's concept of the self as a whole entity —including both mind and body —wherein the being is in the mind, and the "body" is all sensory aspects within the being.[/B]

You certainly wasted lots of time arguing a strawman point, didn't you. 🙂

If scientists found an organelle on another planet, would they consider it find life on another planet? (the question is rhetorical. The answer is emphatically "yes."😉

But, I even pretended that your warped interpretation of reality (you're playing word games to be right because you ego has been smashed. Get over yourself, please.) and addressed your points from that direction.

Continue this topic in a cyclic fashion, further, and you'll just receive requotes from me.

Originally posted by omgchos
And as for answering your own questions to prove a point, u asked [b]ME a question, then answered it as if i already had with a "Gotcha". Thats putting words in my mouth, not proving a point. [/B]

No, that's not putting words in your mouth. You have a warped sense of reality, that much is clear. Are you high? (I'm serious.)

What it's actually doing is asking questions to help you logically connect the dots and then answering those questions so you cannot dance around the subject with more strawman arguments.

This point of yours will no longer be responded to. It is off-topic and "U mad, bro."

Originally posted by omgchos
The only thing i even wanna ask in regard to this post is what you thought was wrong with the review? I wanna here this. And no im not being sarcastic, if you have conflicting opinions i wanna here your side of the argument.

If you want the answer, you will have to visit me, in-person, and sit down and watch the video with me, in-person. I will pause, explain what he's done wrong, point by point.

Any other form will not be acceptable because it will literally take 4-5 hours to do and I am definitely not ever going to type that out. Not ever.

Besides, it's just an excuse for you to argue with me, more.

If you want to argue with me about some of the points I did address on what he said, I believe I posted some of it on KMC. Search for it. I'm not.

Originally posted by dadudemon
Are organelles forms of microscopic life? Yes.

You certainly wasted lots of time arguing a strawman point, didn't you. 🙂

If scientists found an organelle on another planet, would they consider it find life on another planet? (the question is rhetorical. The answer is emphatically "yes."😉

But, I even pretended that your warped interpretation of reality (you're playing word games to be right because you ego has been smashed. Get over yourself, please.) and addressed your points from that direction.

Continue this topic in a cyclic fashion, further, and you'll just receive requotes from me.

No, that's not putting words in your mouth. You have a warped sense of reality, that much is clear. Are you high? (I'm serious.)

What it's actually doing is asking questions to help you logically connect the dots and then answering those questions so you cannot dance around the subject with more strawman arguments.

This point of yours will not longer be responded to. It is off-topic and "U mad, bro."

U might as well have been requoting the whole time. And insults dont work on me, nor does talking down to me as if you were as smart as you pretend to be. For all you insults and self answered rhetorical questions you havent made a single valid point. Except the ones which i had already conceded to and you decided to try and contradict me further. And im done with this anyway. Iv'e actually been done with it but it seems i have to be the bigger man here so.... Congrats. U have more staying power in pointless arguments than i do.

Originally posted by dadudemon
If you want the answer, you will have to visit me, in-person, and sit down and watch the video with me, in-person. I will pause, explain what he's done wrong, point by point.

Any other form will not be acceptable because it will literally take 4-5 hours to do and I am definitely not ever going to type that out. Not ever.

Besides, it's just an excuse for you to argue with me, more.

If you want to argue with me about some of the points I did address on what he said, I believe I posted some of it on KMC. Search for it. I'm not.


Why would i want to argue more. Its clear that both you and i are firm in out thoughts and i bet youll have some "clever" insult about how my thoughts are horribly wrong. I just wanted to hear your opinion, because i can actually look at things from different perspectives from time to time, but as i said im all done with this one.

Originally posted by omgchos
U might as well have been requoting the whole time.

Incorrect as new points were made, on my part. However, I completed a circle making it impossible for you to get out with new points, so I mentioned that I could just requoe myself.

Originally posted by omgchos
And insults dont work on me,

You keep saying insults, but I do not remember calling you stupid or something like that.

Originally posted by omgchos
nor does talking down to me as if you were as smart as you pretend to be.

Yet, you're the person presenting straman arguments as if they were passable. That, right there, is insulting: as if your strawman arguments would be passable and somehow "work" on me and force me to argue your strawman instead of the points. I guess you're not as smart as you think you are and I'm not as dumb as you think I am, huh?

Oh, look, I just replied with a "no, u!" WEEEE!

Originally posted by omgchos
For all you insults and self answered rhetorical questions you havent made a single valid point.

Oh, look! A "I destroyed your points" comeback.

It's the little brother known as "you haven't made a single legit comeback" tactic. 🙂

In order to be able to use this, you actually have to be right.

Look, I just used "nuh uhhhh!" comeback. WEEEEEE!

Originally posted by omgchos
And im done with this anyway.

Good: you've embarassed yourself enough. 😉

Oh, look, I used the "I know you are but what am I!" comeback. WEEEEEE!

Man, this self-parody stuff really puts into perspective what our argument has boiled down to.

Originally posted by omgchos
Iv'e actually been done with it but it seems i have to be the bigger man here so.... Congrats. U have more staying power in pointless arguments than i do.

Yeah, you be the bigger man. You do that, broski.

I'll still be sitting at my desk, being a major geek that is only average amongst the true geniuses of Star Wars posters on KMC.

If you want to avoid discussions like this, be a bit more polite, next time. If you want to see how an adult handles disagreements (with anyone but RJ), read Sadako's posts. When you get snippy and condescending in your posts, it does not really help your points and makes you look like a whiner and a grouch.

Originally posted by omgchos
Why would i want to argue more.

WHAT? You're the one that just asked me for my reasons.

Originally posted by omgchos
Its clear that both you and i are firm in out thoughts and i bet youll have some "clever" insult about how my thoughts are horribly wrong. I just wanted to hear your opinion, because i can actually look at things from different perspectives from time to time, but as i said im all done with this one.

Nah, what you wanted to do was have a lengthy argument about why my counter-arguments were bad arguments. However, the weed has made you too apathetic to consider it legit (NOTHING wrong with that: I actually think that's a good thing and I should probably smoke some, myself...it's just not legal and I will never do it illegally)...especially after you realized that a real rebuttal would take me 4-5 hours (it would. It took forever to rip it a new one for just 7 minutes of the vid.)