Originally posted by quanchi112
So what if he mandhandled BrB on his own.....Void raped Loki, crushed asgard, and was crushing the avengers yet you want to compare beating on Beta Ray Bill to the Void's feats. GTFO.
Originally posted by bbrem123
weak team? stomping an amped loki and thor...no way is BRB feat better...and its not better then void raping MM
And I could see Surfer winning over that MM. He was whacked out of his gourd.
Originally posted by Johnny SorrowThe point is you brought up Nova as a joke and it backfired on you.
I can't believe I have to explain to you.Nova opened up a stargate in the Sphinx to send him back to the universe outside of the Fault, where he imploded because of his paradoxical nature. Nova beat him; it doesn't mean Nova is stronger than him. But that's the logic of all your arguments.
You mean past Thor sped up the evolution of an entire planet, went back in time under his own power (i.e. without the aid of Mjolnir), defeated Mephisto within his own dimension, and can shut off mutant powers with a thought? And all of this before a significant upgrade? Wow, Thor is amazing.
Surfer is weaker than Galactus (duh), so Surfer is weaker than Thor. Durp.
Originally posted by Doctor-AlvisBrB is one guy while Void took on the avengers with Loki aiding them and Thor who is Bill's superior so either way you cut it it's far more impressive than beating Bill up.
I... would actually consider beating Beta Ray Bill above that. Beating Loki is fairly impressive but Asgard is an inanimate object and that was a really weak Avengers team.
Originally posted by 753Damaging Celestial Exitar, crushing the Surfer himself and warlock, having the power to run off a hungry Galactus. Yeah, Surfer's best just doesn't compare.
What feats does Thor have that are leagues above the Surfer's high end feats?Thor is also an ant compared to a hungy galactus unless he has PIS on his side.
Originally posted by quanchi112
The point is you brought up Nova as a joke and it backfired on you.BrB is one guy while Void took on the avengers with Loki aiding them and Thor who is Bill's superior so either way you cut it it's far more impressive than beating Bill up. Damaging Celestial Exitar, crushing the Surfer himself and warlock, having the power to run off a hungry Galactus. Yeah, Surfer's best just doesn't compare.
When did Thor crushed Surfer and Warlock?
Surfer eats Thor's soul, and the tears of his relatives.
Originally posted by quanchi112
The point is you brought up Nova as a joke and it backfired on you.BrB is one guy while Void took on the avengers with Loki aiding them and Thor who is Bill's superior so either way you cut it it's far more impressive than beating Bill up. Damaging Celestial Exitar, crushing the Surfer himself and warlock, having the power to run off a hungry Galactus. Yeah, Surfer's best just doesn't compare.
Hum... killing aegis and tenebras involved a plot device, but it wasn't outright PIS like Thor driving galactus off was, and it's also more impressive than damaging celestial armor. His planet regeneration, star reignition, black hole creation, etc. feats are above Thor's manipulaiton of cosmic forces feats, unless it envolves energy absorption, which is a field thor is clearly superior. Thor is not leagues above the Surfer at all. And what is this about thor crushing the SS and Warlock?
^ Not Warrior's Madness. But they did fight during Blood and Thunder.
Originally posted by OneDumbG0Thor (bloodlusted) vs Silver Surfer & Adam Warlock, from Infinity Watch #23:
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Originally posted by BouboumasterIyo. On panel proves Thor>Surfer until he can prove otherwise.
When did Thor crushed Surfer and Warlock?Surfer eats Thor's soul, and the tears of his relatives.
Originally posted by 753Not at all. Thor is a superior warrior and has power that is leagues up Surfer's best. I listed the examples whereas Thor's power did the damage while Surfer manipulated the Crunch which isn't a part of his power source and would have gotten him killed.
Hum... killing aegis and tenebras involved a plot device, but it wasn't outright PIS like Thor driving galactus off was, and it's also more impressive than damaging celestial armor. His planet regeneration, star reignition, black hole creation, etc. feats are above Thor's manipulaiton of cosmic forces feats, unless it envolves energy absorption, which is a field thor is clearly superior. Thor is not leagues above the Surfer at all. And what is this about thor crushing the SS and Warlock?
In blood and thunder Thor crushed Surfer twice. One on his own and once with warlock on his side.
Originally posted by quanchi112
Iyo. On panel proves Thor>Surfer until he can prove otherwise.Not at all. Thor is a superior warrior and has power that is leagues up Surfer's best. I listed the examples whereas Thor's power did the damage while Surfer manipulated the Crunch which isn't a part of his power source and would have gotten him killed.
In blood and thunder Thor crushed Surfer twice. One on his own and once with warlock on his side.
He crushed neither, although he won. they were of course trying to cure him not kill him. SS cosmic feats are on par or above thor's. So what if the crunch energies weren't part of his power source? It shows how powerfull an energy manipulator he is.
Originally posted by 753
He crushed neither, although he won. they were of course trying to cure him not kill him. SS cosmic feats are on par or above thor's. So what if the crunch energies weren't part of his power source? It shows how powerfull an energy manipulator he is.
Did you not read the fight? Thor was utterly destroying them. He most definitely crushed Silver Surfer, hence why Adam Warlock had to rescue him.
The Silver Surfer gave up trying to cure Thor one knock out ago, and was not holding back any longer.
Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
Did you not read the fight? Thor was utterly destroying them. He most definitely crushed Silver Surfer, hence why Adam Warlock had to rescue him.The Silver Surfer gave up trying to cure Thor one knock out ago, and was not holding back any longer.
I disagree with the not holding back part and while thor undobtedly won, I think we have different ideas of what crushing someone means. SS got crushed by Aegis and Tenebras, and Thanos in the past - he was all ****ed up. Thor just put him down and the board still saved his ass.
Originally posted by 753You couldn't have read the fight if you think he wasn't dominated on panel. He was unconscious and Warlock had to take control of his board to save their lives because Thor was just putting on a show.
He crushed neither, although he won. they were of course trying to cure him not kill him. SS cosmic feats are on par or above thor's. So what if the crunch energies weren't part of his power source? It shows how powerfull an energy manipulator he is.
Feats don't ever trump actual comparisons. Always remember that.
Originally posted by quanchi112
You couldn't have read the fight if you think he wasn't dominated on panel. He was unconscious and Warlock had to take control of his board to save their lives because Thor was just putting on a show.Feats don't ever trump actual comparisons. Always remember that.
I read the fight and acknowledged he was defeated, crushing someone means a lot more than just a ko thor couldn't even finish as the board still saved SS who wanted to cure thor and not kill him.
Feats do so trump comparisons, because popularity and plot requirements affect the outcome of fights with famous characters in them a lot more than they do regular feats.
