Originally posted by bbrem123
see ur wrong...bob was still around even though he transformed back...it wasnt void yelling kill me but bob...so he still had some control...and he couldnt die before because he didnt want it bad enough...it wasnt the void not allowing it...and thor teleported him there...he wasnt on his knees...i dont see any indication of yelling or anything of the sort...thor could hurt him in the beginning and he couldnt after the amp. the only reason his final attacked worked was because sentry wanted to die. Nothing more. It pretty obvioushere is where void says he wont die because he doesnt really want to...there is nothing ever stated that void wont let him die
http://s715.photobucket.com/albums/ww156/ankur2113/?action=view¤t=DA013023.jpg
so why didnt void regenerate again?
Okay, I gotta ask, are you a Quanchi alt?
Bob Reynolds has never been shown to be in control when he was in the form of the Void as far as I know. In any sane way at least. I believe it was once revealed that Reynolds is the Void and he was in control. He was a mad man, it was his junkie side taking over but I don't think that's the case currently.
The form of the Void reappearing is the Void becoming the dominant personality again, hence why the Void was attacking the heroes. Reynolds had enough control to ask him to kill him. Did Bendis give his thoughts on this yet? Him coming out and giving his thoughts would clear up this different interpretations.
Teleportation? I thought that was Thor unleashing bolts of lightning at the Void to the point his on the ground and in pieces. Here's the fixed links by the way:
http://i779.photobucket.com/albums/yy73/R-O-G/Siege01013.jpg
http://i779.photobucket.com/albums/yy73/R-O-G/Siege01014.jpg
http://i779.photobucket.com/albums/yy73/R-O-G/Siege01015-016.jpg
He seemed to be on his knees at the last 3 panels of the last page or whatever counts for knees in that misshapen mass. He wasn't on the ground because he dropped his contacts.
I never said it was directly stated. I said that the failed attempt in the Sun proves that the Void won't simply allow him to die like your above scan proves. Reynolds tried to commit suicide, he however failed because the Void intervened.
I don't care enough about this poor character to dig, but I'm pretty sure that it was established as far back as his minis that the Sentry and the Void cannot die when one exists. The Sentry persona and the Void persona are two pieces of the Bob persona, with the Sentry being the hero persona Bob made to counteract what his evil side, the Void, would do.
Again, I thought the entire point was the he couldn't kill himself. He wanted to be stopped, he wanted to die. He just couldn't restrain himself. Your acting as if he just knelt there. He had lost whatever little control he had after the Hellicarrier scene and the Void was even actively attacking the heroes.
Shit this character is such a mess. I'm really trying to figure out whose who and every time different scenes pop in my head.
Reynolds is Void, or his Sentry. Or Reynolds is Void and Sentry. The Void and Sentry are one. Gives me a headache. Too much work for such a worthless character.
Originally posted by psycho gundam
thor teleported him per iron man's request.hit him with the lightning before and after though
Was this revealed in a tie-in or something? I don't see any requests from Iron Man in those scans. I just assumed Thor blasted him downwards from the Sky until he was on the ground and kept him there with barrages of lightning.
errr... thor teleported him from the sky to the ground, stark asked if he could move him there cause of his plan to 9/11 him with the helicarrier.
http://i779.photobucket.com/albums/yy73/R-O-G/Siege01015-016.jpg
^ it's all there minus the request which is in the previous page
Originally posted by psycho gundam
errr... thor teleported him from the sky to the ground, stark asked if he could move him there cause of his plan to 9/11 him with the helicarrier.http://i779.photobucket.com/albums/yy73/R-O-G/Siege01015-016.jpg
^ it's all there minus the request which is in the previous page
doh
What the ****? I read that as "Thor can you blast him into the fields." or something akin to that this morning. Haha, it's the ****ing alcohol in my system (I went to Cuba for a week and came back this morning. I think I got alcohol poisoning last night from the amount I drank.).
Now I need to go re-read the entire issue as I'm not sure about anything now.
Thanks Gundam. I don't usually make such ridiculous mistake.
mhmm I could save face by claiming that he blasted him into the fields with the lightning but that's straw grasping....
It's more of a Quannybun technique.
But just to make sure, he was blasting him with lightning before and after that scene, and the Void is on the ground right? Just trying to make sure I'm not making that up too.
Now I have to re-evaluate my stance on Thor in comparison to the Void.
Originally posted by WhiteWitchKingYou really need to let it go whoever you are.Spoiler:
Look, Void's penis survived! Quanchi is right. Thor can't really put him down. Void/Quanchi wins!
http://i44.tinypic.com/535v2g.jpg
Originally posted by Rage.Of.OlympusI guess the fact Sentry wanted to die had nothing to do with it. If you want to ignore context like this just to wank Thor at least say so.
Haha, Siege #4 was glorious. First thing I did when I came back from Vacation was go to the Comic Shop.Thor holds back a bit less and kills the Void in a blow, ala Siege #4.
On a more serious note, I don't have that big of a problem with the Hellicarrier scene. Thor blasted him with lightning and had him on his knees after he enraged him, and the Hellicarrier just finished him off (Still can't believe they offed Loki. Of course after his one shot, it's obviously part of something bigger.).
Before that, the only attack that seemed to have any effect was Thor's hammer throw that had him scream in pain. Everything else didn't seem to bother him, not even when Captain America sliced his head off.
It's nice to know that Thor can still take it to Cosmic Beings in some shape or form currently. Even when his in "Punch things and blast lightning" mode.
All that being said, Void wins this in my opinion. But it's clear to me at this point that the gap between the two really isn't that huge to the point Thor can't score some wins.
Originally posted by Rage.Of.OlympusSentry didn't reform because he didn't want to. Thor can't kill him unless he allows him. That's plain as day.
He wanted to die, but that doesn't take away from what Thor did. The Void was in control at that point. He even transformed back into his Void form and was attacking the heroes. It wasn't as if he was kneeling at Thor's feet, waiting for an attack. What was established is that Bob Reynolds cannot die because the Void won't let him. Luckily for him though, the Void pissed off Thor so he ended him."It had to be done."
The Hellicarrier scene allowed Reynolds to gain control for a moment, but that was it.
Did you miss the part where he brought him to his knees with his lightning before the Hellicarrier attack and after he lost the Norn enchantment?
Where did Captain America show to affect the Void in anyway. His shield throws didn't seem to phase the Void at all. The Void is beyond simply physical attacks. That's why you can blow a hole in his head and he comes right back unphased. Thor's attacks however, including the hammer throw hurt the Void. Everything else didn't seem to phase him.
Originally posted by quanchi112
Sentry didn't reform because he didn't want to. Thor can't kill him unless he allows him. That's plain as day.
Problem is, that wasn't Sentry. that was VOID Thor killed.
When the Void/Sentry attacked Thor (right before Thor struck him with lightning).
THAT WAS obviously VOID since it was trying to kill THOR!
Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
dohWhat the ****? I read that as "Thor can you blast him into the fields." or something akin to that this morning. Haha, it's the ****ing alcohol in my system (I went to Cuba for a week and came back this morning. I think I got alcohol poisoning last night from the amount I drank.).
Now I need to go re-read the entire issue as I'm not sure about anything now.
Thanks Gundam. I don't usually make such ridiculous mistake.
mhmm I could save face by claiming that he blasted him into the fields with the lightning but that's straw grasping....
It's more of a Quannybun technique.
But just to make sure, he was blasting him with lightning before and after that scene, and the Void is on the ground right? Just trying to make sure I'm not making that up too.
Now I have to re-evaluate my stance on Thor in comparison to the Void.
looked more like thor delivered a lghtning blast then teleported or tornadod void to the field then another lightning blast.
base on the recent wanking on sentry's void's powersets he should, on paper, shit stomp thor and everyone else.
base on their overall showhings, thor should get an even split with a slight nod to void.
if we base everything on seige 4, thor would hang a while then die.
and why is it that thor is suddenly reduced to just spamming lightning bolts? (though really impressive lightning bolts) wtf happened to the rest of his powersets?
Originally posted by shokosugiVoid was saying kill me and wanted to die so he wasn't actively trying to kill Thor. Read the actual dialogue before you post scans that back me up. Void wanted to die so he died.
Problem is, that wasn't Sentry. that was VOID Thor killed.When the Void/Sentry attacked Thor (right before Thor struck him with lightning).
THAT WAS obviously VOID since it was trying to kill THOR!
Originally posted by quanchi112
Void was saying kill me and wanted to die so he wasn't actively trying to kill Thor. Read the actual dialogue before you post scans that back me up. Void wanted to die so he died.
NO! maybe there was a still a bit of Sentry when the Void said "Kill Me"...
but when the VOID attacked Thor right after that, (before Thor struck him with lightning)...Sentry totally lost control and that was TOTALLY VOID who attacked Thor!
